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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
February 23 2011 21:21 GMT
#481
Oh and side note. There is no "U" in "Qatol". He will kill you.
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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 23 2011 21:23 GMT
#482
On February 24 2011 06:16 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 06:12 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On February 24 2011 00:34 deconduo wrote:
What will Detective return if he investigates a vanilla mafia? Same for a vanilla townie?

Detectives return the ROLE of a player. Assuming that mafia is not covered and the townie is not framed it will return "mafia" and "townie" respectively.


so basically the framer defeats both Cops and Detectives, wonderful, now that this has been cleared up allow me to state that DTs are semi worthless then and should go after people not in the spotlight, as those results will be the most suspect


That lessens the power of the DT but they are still nowhere near useless.

-They will can verify other blues
-They still return the right alignment if role reversed
-Mafia are forced to waste KP if they want to Cover/Frame
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-23 21:24:29
February 23 2011 21:24 GMT
#483
MaxwellE has replaced Conversion.
Be a man, Become a Legend. TL Mafia Forum Ask for access!!
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 23 2011 21:27 GMT
#484
On February 24 2011 06:23 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 06:16 GMarshal wrote:
On February 24 2011 06:12 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On February 24 2011 00:34 deconduo wrote:
What will Detective return if he investigates a vanilla mafia? Same for a vanilla townie?

Detectives return the ROLE of a player. Assuming that mafia is not covered and the townie is not framed it will return "mafia" and "townie" respectively.


so basically the framer defeats both Cops and Detectives, wonderful, now that this has been cleared up allow me to state that DTs are semi worthless then and should go after people not in the spotlight, as those results will be the most suspect


That lessens the power of the DT but they are still nowhere near useless.

-They will can verify other blues
-They still return the right alignment if role reversed
-Mafia are forced to waste KP if they want to Cover/Frame


Alright useless was a wrong choice, however I don't want people just going out and claiming DT just because they got red on a check on someone controversial, there has to be more substance to it, e.g. scummy posting associated with it, checked twice and got the same result, something like that

Point 1 did not occur to me, great catch, although blues can still be framed
Point 2 I dont quite get what you mean, can you explain it a little more
Point 3 is the reason DTs should try to avoid claiming, to keep scum on their toes and force the expenditure of kps
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annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
February 23 2011 21:28 GMT
#485
On February 24 2011 06:12 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 00:34 deconduo wrote:
What will Detective return if he investigates a vanilla mafia? Same for a vanilla townie?

Detectives return the ROLE of a player. Assuming that mafia is not covered and the townie is not framed it will return "mafia" and "townie" respectively.



mafia and townie are not roles, they are alignments...
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
February 23 2011 21:29 GMT
#486
also hi. am out of class now

why arent we killing chaoser or GM?

im gonna go ##vote chaoser now myself.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 23 2011 21:30 GMT
#487
On February 24 2011 06:29 annul wrote:
also hi. am out of class now

why arent we killing chaoser or GM?

im gonna go ##vote chaoser now myself.


Yep the brilliance of going after some of the most active and contributing players the first day!
I guess seeing what bandwagons form will provide us with good information
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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 23 2011 21:32 GMT
#488
On February 24 2011 06:27 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 06:23 deconduo wrote:
On February 24 2011 06:16 GMarshal wrote:
On February 24 2011 06:12 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On February 24 2011 00:34 deconduo wrote:
What will Detective return if he investigates a vanilla mafia? Same for a vanilla townie?

Detectives return the ROLE of a player. Assuming that mafia is not covered and the townie is not framed it will return "mafia" and "townie" respectively.


so basically the framer defeats both Cops and Detectives, wonderful, now that this has been cleared up allow me to state that DTs are semi worthless then and should go after people not in the spotlight, as those results will be the most suspect


That lessens the power of the DT but they are still nowhere near useless.

-They will can verify other blues
-They still return the right alignment if role reversed
-Mafia are forced to waste KP if they want to Cover/Frame


Alright useless was a wrong choice, however I don't want people just going out and claiming DT just because they got red on a check on someone controversial, there has to be more substance to it, e.g. scummy posting associated with it, checked twice and got the same result, something like that

Point 1 did not occur to me, great catch, although blues can still be framed
Point 2 I dont quite get what you mean, can you explain it a little more
Point 3 is the reason DTs should try to avoid claiming, to keep scum on their toes and force the expenditure of kps


-As far as I can gather, even if framed DTs will still return vig/medic whatever. The only problem here would be the/a godfather
-Again, as I understand it, if a DT was role-reversed they would return 'Townie' as opposed to 'Medic'



CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
February 23 2011 21:32 GMT
#489
When does voting end? I got home a couple of minutes ago and I'm too tired to think, so I wanna vote in the morning after I get some time to properly go through the thread, and not bandwagon randomly.

I am all achy, excuse my ignorance.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 23 2011 21:34 GMT
#490
On February 24 2011 06:29 annul wrote:
also hi. am out of class now

why arent we killing chaoser or GM?

im gonna go ##vote chaoser now myself.


Hi, would you like to explain that vote? You have been acting pretty scummy so far.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 23 2011 21:40 GMT
#491
On February 24 2011 06:32 CubEdIn wrote:
When does voting end? I got home a couple of minutes ago and I'm too tired to think, so I wanna vote in the morning after I get some time to properly go through the thread, and not bandwagon randomly.

I am all achy, excuse my ignorance.

Game started yesterday night so the vote is tomorrow at 03:00 GMT (+00:00)
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annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
February 23 2011 21:41 GMT
#492
On February 24 2011 06:34 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 06:29 annul wrote:
also hi. am out of class now

why arent we killing chaoser or GM?

im gonna go ##vote chaoser now myself.


Hi, would you like to explain that vote? You have been acting pretty scummy so far.


i already did, you should probably read the entire thread
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
February 23 2011 21:42 GMT
#493
actually in fact, the only way you can claim "ive been really scummy so far" is if you saw my play last night, and if you did, then you know i already explained that vote. interesting.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
February 23 2011 21:43 GMT
#494
On February 24 2011 06:21 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Oh and side note. There is no "U" in "Qatol". He will kill you.

Psh I don't kill people for that. My minions on the other hand......
Uff Da
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
February 23 2011 21:43 GMT
#495
On February 24 2011 06:30 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 06:29 annul wrote:
also hi. am out of class now

why arent we killing chaoser or GM?

im gonna go ##vote chaoser now myself.


Yep the brilliance of going after some of the most active and contributing players the first day!
I guess seeing what bandwagons form will provide us with good information


its brilliant when you post the dumbest shit possible yeah

harmful activity isnt exempt on day 1
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 23 2011 21:46 GMT
#496
On February 24 2011 06:42 annul wrote:
actually in fact, the only way you can claim "ive been really scummy so far" is if you saw my play last night, and if you did, then you know i already explained that vote. interesting.


Actually I agree with deconduo, can you point to a single useful contribution you have made? As a matter of fact have you done anything but clamor for hanging me and chaoser?

Also does anyone else get the feeling that there is a large number of lurkers/inactives right now?

I think I'm going to go poke them with the PM stick.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
February 23 2011 22:00 GMT
#497
On February 24 2011 06:28 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 06:12 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On February 24 2011 00:34 deconduo wrote:
What will Detective return if he investigates a vanilla mafia? Same for a vanilla townie?

Detectives return the ROLE of a player. Assuming that mafia is not covered and the townie is not framed it will return "mafia" and "townie" respectively.



mafia and townie are not roles, they are alignments...

I assumed it would be obvious, but in that case I guess I will rename the roles. When you are a DT you are getting back the role of mafia/town and when you are a cop you are getting back the alignment of mafia/town. Understand? I will change the names to Vanilla Town and Mafia Grunt for the sake of understanding. From now on cops will return Mafia/town and detectives will return vanilla town and mafia grunt.
Be a man, Become a Legend. TL Mafia Forum Ask for access!!
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 23 2011 22:02 GMT
#498
Please do, the recent trend on TL has been for mafia to lurk and wait for town to self-destruct.

Which would be the point of the cells, so town won't self-destruct as easily. I mean we got PMs, let's use them.

+ Show Spoiler +
Bye bye post 6666
boomer hands
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 23 2011 22:31 GMT
#499
Annul:
+ Show Spoiler +

On February 23 2011 12:47 annul wrote:
okay hi peeps

vote chaoser. that post reeks of redness.

p.s. still no role PM!


On February 23 2011 12:51 annul wrote:
nobody in this game should trust gryffindor whatsoever. i read orgah and i have NO IDEA how he didnt die like 5 days before he did

also, he's a smurf and if you read this forum you should already know who he is ;\


On February 23 2011 12:55 annul wrote:
it reeks of red because he is like "hey so theres weak powers in this game lol" which can only be known if he is a red, since if he was green he cant make that blanket claim and if he was a blue, he'd even be less inclined to make that claim

the only way he can do that is if he is red and he sees the red team has weak or no powers


On February 23 2011 13:23 annul wrote:
same reason you knew the mafia was weak?


On February 23 2011 13:31 annul wrote:
pretty sure its better for people to post things in the thread -- much easier to catch red slips that way.

if people only post in these mini town circles, then people are probably more inclined psychologically to trust their town circle and not consider them red, etc.



On February 23 2011 14:33 annul wrote:
but for real lets kill chaoser and GM


On February 24 2011 06:29 annul wrote:
also hi. am out of class now

why arent we killing chaoser or GM?

im gonna go ##vote chaoser now myself.



Please tell me where amongst that pile of shit you 'explained' your vote. And no, 'lol you said mafia was weak' is NOT a good reason or explanation.

Note, those are his non-spam posts.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 23 2011 22:56 GMT
#500
On February 24 2011 07:00 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 06:28 annul wrote:
On February 24 2011 06:12 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On February 24 2011 00:34 deconduo wrote:
What will Detective return if he investigates a vanilla mafia? Same for a vanilla townie?

Detectives return the ROLE of a player. Assuming that mafia is not covered and the townie is not framed it will return "mafia" and "townie" respectively.



mafia and townie are not roles, they are alignments...

I assumed it would be obvious, but in that case I guess I will rename the roles. When you are a DT you are getting back the role of mafia/town and when you are a cop you are getting back the alignment of mafia/town. Understand? I will change the names to Vanilla Town and Mafia Grunt for the sake of understanding. From now on cops will return Mafia/town and detectives will return vanilla town and mafia grunt.


So, hopefully I have this right:

-A DT checking a medic will return 'Town Medic'
-A DT checking a framed medic will return 'Mafia Medic'
-A DT checking a grunt will return 'Mafia Grunt'
-A DT checking a covered grunt will return 'Town Grunt'
-A role-reversed DT checking a medic will return 'Town'
-A role-reversed DT checking a framed medic will return 'Mafia'
-A role-reversed DT checking a grunt will return 'Mafia'
-A role-reversed DT checking a covered grunt will return 'Town'

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