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ShiaoPi
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Vivax
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On June 14 2012 05:48 grush57 wrote: It's kinda sad mafia already won and there just throwing out scumslips :'( Enlighten us on the scumslips. If you really are town, even if you die, you can still let town win. Just tell us about your thoughts, where are the slips, who do you think is suspicious etc. etc. Don't throw away all hope and go into emo mode.Write something that's not an anti-town lie this time. People might still believe you and switch their votes. 2 hours to go, that's a long time. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On June 14 2012 05:28 Vivax wrote: Guess why I only quote this. This quoted part is a good example of your way of bad thinking (or acting). 'Vivax doesn't swap his vote first, thus his argument is invalid and he is mafia'. Yeah sure. Really smart move bro. Read the quote. There's already the reason why I wasn't among the first to swap, it's cause it might have put the town at risk of a no lynch. You don't just say: 'I BUY IT', no, you're even so clever to say right next to it: 'BUT YOU'RE SUSPICIOUS CAUSE OF IT'. And this is how town should look at you after reading this:    -> + Show Spoiler + I really hope that other townies recognize how often you are contradicting yourself (within really close textparts!!!) in your desperate attempts to tunnel me. Wow, you are stupid right now. Yup, I said just that. I wouldn't have done this in your position which is why I answered like I did. But after I read your response I understand that this could be done from a town point of view which is why I answered like I did. Therefore I drop the argument because it's a weak one. You are however avoiding ALL my other arguments, and you instead choose to pick on the one even myself consider to be weak one. On June 14 2012 05:28 Vivax wrote: There are cases promising a ton of information, and while you try to blend in on each of these cases, your main objective remains to tunnel me, throughout a ton of pages. You're incredibly narrowsighted or you seek to spread as much distrust against me as possible. Yes, my main objective is to kill scum. I see no problem in tunneling to succed here. On June 14 2012 05:28 Vivax wrote: Oh and btw. Grush is about to get lynched. If I don't switch vote now, I risk a no lynch and you'll throw that at me. If I switch vote now, you'll say I bandwagoned. Know what?Why should I risk a no lynch?I really don't care about what you have to say after all your slips, but you can try and keep tunneling. You better hope you're not the next scum to hang, cause I think that might be very possible. ##vote grush57 Cool story bro. I'm not sure if your blind but doesn't that mean Kthez is scum? But you want to lynch grsuh? ehh? But the thing is, like always, you put massive uncertainty in this post so you'll just respond with ''I never said you were scum''. On June 13 2012 05:23 KtheZ wrote: My first night rolecheck was Lazermonkey. After the results of the first day lynch I decided to check one of the people who voted for Zen_Man,and Lazermonkey was a solid choice. The results turned up: Lazermonkey can be confirmed townie. Grush is obviously scum, and his behavior in both accusing me and his nonsensical roleclaim are all meant to apply extreme pressure onto me. Grush is in his death throes, and is trying to pull as much information for scum as he can. Thus the fake roleclaim, which forces me out to contest this and reveal myself. He took s0Lstice's post against me and then killed s0Lstice, which makes it very easy for him to push a lynch on me. If you look at grush's filter, his posts have been very anti-town and full of OMGUS. From the beginning he has never contributed anything useful to the town. I was trying to steer the town lynch in the direction I felt was right, without painting myself as a symbol for the mafia to hit. Imagine my suprise when I find out we randomly bandwagoned our medic. There goes my only avenue of survival if I claim! On the first day I was unwilling to look too pro-town to the mafia, because I did not want to have any potential as a target. However, the one point I was firm on was my vote on grush, because I genuinely thought he was mafia. Grush's play as town has been unconvincing, and even anti-town. None of his actions make sense, from a townie perspective. I find it funny that I manage to find loads of posts on you that contains clear indications on scumplay You, on the other hand, only find one line which could be considered scumslip. | ||
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Vivax
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A good townie has to keep an overview of all players in the cases he decides to pursue, and that's not what you're doing. On the other hand it allows you to claim you're being consistent in your play if your target flips town. Just try to pull that card. You are excessively afraid to make other cases. Instead you post high content low information ones (wall of text ugh). You even admit that you made a weak point. Make good cases or don't make them at all. There is much better information out there you plainly ignore. | ||
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Vivax
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And like in this game, other townies just didn't care. I hope they will during day 3. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On June 14 2012 06:01 Vivax wrote: I've quit wasting my time with you lazer. Aside from the personal attacks, I think it's pretty obvious that you're tunneling me hard. A good townie has to keep an overview of all players in the cases he decides to pursue, and that's not what you're doing. On the other hand it allows you to claim you're being consistent in your play if your target flips town. Just try to pull that card. You are excessively afraid to make other cases. Instead you post high content low information ones (wall of text ugh). You even admit that you made a weak point. Make good cases or don't make them at all. There is much better information out there you plainly ignore. LOLOLOLOL. This is ad hominem which was discussed on D1.(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem). Yes, I am tunneling you atm. I even said that in my last post so you don't need to say it aswell. Can you give examples of these high content low info posts? Also, yes my point was weak. I said it because your response here was good. I'm not going to push you for something I don't think look suspicious. Doesn't this make sense? You point out one single thing in my whole case(which I even admitt) and therefore you say it's invalid. But you skip all the 1000 points which aren't. The logic here is questionable... I kinda want to go to bed. Someone want to swap votes onto Vivax? | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On June 14 2012 06:07 Vivax wrote: And no, tunneling is not hunting scum. Tunneling is being stubborn as hell and blind to alternatives, constantly only pushing one player. Heist did that to me last game and left me unable to post cases cause I was busy defending attacks. And like in this game, other townies just didn't care. I hope they will during day 3. I don't care. really, I don't. Please answer my questions. The reason I'm tunneling you is because your answers are crap. Also I don't care about Heist. I care about you. Stop avoiding the questions. | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
But vivax is definitely a nice second mafia. After Kthez confirms Lazer as town, Vivax claims that Lazer is slipping and acting as Mafia. In the rare case that Grush flips DT, then Kthez is mafia. If Kthez is mafia, then Shiaopi is mafia too for claiming a roleblock. Because there have been no counter claims, this is the last realistic scenario regarding the DT and whatnot, and even in this case, Lazer monkey is also a town. I don't know where your logic is Vivax, but it sure isn't in this thread. | ||
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Release
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Lazermonkey
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Vivax
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=342960¤tpage=20#385 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=342960¤tpage=20#393 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=342960¤tpage=23#443 You are actually right. I didn't think of the DT check, only about the roleblock and the alignment, should I apologize for not thinking of something? If grush did that he would write a book. I came home and saw another post from the monkey heating me up, and actually this makes me realize my accusations against him are OMGUS. But his case still sucks, and my defense is still solid. Go look that up and decide who of us is most likely saying something funded, he contradicts himself within 1 line of text, and his first list of suspicious players looks extremely scummy. You will find that in list in the first link up there. From a scumhunting point of view before the DT roleclaim happened, he WAS suspicious. | ||
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Vivax
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EchelonTee
United States5261 Posts
ha236: (1): grush57: (6): Vivax: (0): Lazermonkey: (0): KtheZ: (0): With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch! grush57 is currently set to be lynched. Day ends in a little under 40 mins. | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
In the case that Grush flips scum and we have no more counter claims: ShiaoPi, Kthez, and Lazer are modconfirmed town. Myself, Vivax, Ha are not. 1 scum, left, i would like to believe that it is ha. In the case that grush flips DT and we have no more counter claims: ShiaoPi and Kthez are scum I doubt there will be another counter claim, so i think town has this game sealed quite nicely. Ofc, in the case that Grush flips vanilla town, we are pretty much screwed. | ||
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EchelonTee
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Night 2 ![[image loading]](http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn96/firestormzq/1241429225374FotoPrinceofPersiaWarriorWithin.jpg) The day had become increasingly frantic as the remaining survivors argued incessantly amongst themselves. Communication with their remaining foreign allies had completely ceased, and aside from dealing with the hordes of never-ending monsters, they had the continuous threat of murderers from the inside. With 3 of the comrades fallen and nothing but bickering occurring during the day, it seemed fruitless that anything could be done. "Enough of this squabbling!" shouted grush57, emphatically. "No more sitting here, waiting to die. I have been doing Detective work, and I know conclusively who is the traitor amongst ourselves!!" Silenced for a moment, the group turned to face grush57 with suspicious eyes."What have you found that we could not? Where is your evidence?" Turning red for a moment, grush57 frantically exclaimed "All of you do nothing while I have all the answers! I swear, I know the scum when I see it!!" Unconvinced, the group stated "Show us the evidence." Growing fidgety, grush57 began to shrink away, but the crowd would not let him go that easily. In a split second, the crowd was upon him as grush57 screamed "No! Ok, I lied about the detective work, but I swear I'm innocent! I just wanted to help!" Coldly, the crowd strung him up, only to be let down once again as green blood spilled out. grush57, the Kingdom Guard was lynched for his lies! Final Vote Count: + Show Spoiler + ha236: (1): grush57: (6): Vivax: (0): Lazermonkey: (0): KtheZ: (0): Night 2 has begun! You have 24 hours to send your night actions to both myself and marvellosity. Find some rest; the demons lurk ever closely. Sunrise is at Thursday, Jun 14 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) | ||
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ShiaoPi
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Release
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marvellosity
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Release
United States4397 Posts
Bad game. | ||
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
Assuming KtheZ gets shot and is actually the cop, we will head into 3-2 LYLO come the next day. | ||
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