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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
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Release
United States4397 Posts
assuming the claims are true (i'm starting to doubt them) Kthez, Shiaopi and Lazer are town. The remaining scum lie in myself, Ha, and Vivax. Here is why i doubt them: Vivax has been playing better than Lazer all game (from a town perspective). A quick read tells me that much. This makes me want to believe that Kthez or ShiaoPi, or both are the scum. here's my question to those who didn't claim: Do you believe the claims? | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
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Release
United States4397 Posts
Is that your penis? Because it has no pubes and it extremely short You know i'm jk. GG | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On June 14 2012 11:38 Release wrote: more summary inc: assuming the claims are true (i'm starting to doubt them) Kthez, Shiaopi and Lazer are town. The remaining scum lie in myself, Ha, and Vivax. Here is why i doubt them: Vivax has been playing better than Lazer all game (from a town perspective). A quick read tells me that much. This makes me want to believe that Kthez or ShiaoPi, or both are the scum. here's my question to those who didn't claim: Do you believe the claims? Why would you doubt the claims? It is quite a farfetched thought to claim that mafia made a fake DT claim and a fake roleblock claim as well. Your post attempts to discredit the confirmed DT and townie by throwing out incredibly implausible claims, none of which are true. Plus, in the outlandish case that both me and ShiaoPi are lying, that means my confirmation of Supermonkey would also be invalid. And thus, you would be left with nobody confirmed town. In this situation, why would you specifically tunnel me and ShiaoPi? The remaining scum definitely lies within you, ha, and vivax. For tomorrow I would probably lynch ha as he is the most probable scum at this point. | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
On June 14 2012 12:52 KtheZ wrote: Why would you doubt the claims? It is quite a farfetched thought to claim that mafia made a fake DT claim and a fake roleblock claim as well. Your post attempts to discredit the confirmed DT and townie by throwing out incredibly implausible claims, none of which are true. Plus, in the outlandish case that both me and ShiaoPi are lying, that means my confirmation of Supermonkey would also be invalid. And thus, you would be left with nobody confirmed town. In this situation, why would you specifically tunnel me and ShiaoPi? The remaining scum definitely lies within you, ha, and vivax. For tomorrow I would probably lynch ha as he is the most probable scum at this point. Your claim was that Lazermonkey was town. I just find this hard to believe because his response to Vivax was so poor in comparison to Vivax's response to him. Also, i still find it implausible that our DT would check Lazer over Ha. It seemed inevitable that ha would get lynched, and a check on him is far less risky than a check on Lazer. To be quite honest, i feel like lynching you or lazermonkey rather than one of myself, ha, or vivax. | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
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KtheZ
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Release
United States4397 Posts
On June 14 2012 14:20 KtheZ wrote: You're accusing 3 people of being mafia now; me, shiaopi, and lazermonkey not lazermonkey | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
To be quite honest, i feel like lynching you or lazermonkey rather than one of myself, ha, or vivax. | ||
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
On to the topic of lynching day 3 I would say ha is most probably scum by now, if KtheZ gets hit tonight at least we will have some confirmed townie, which should help at LYLO. | ||
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ha236
Sweden36 Posts
On June 14 2012 19:21 ShiaoPi wrote: Me being roleblocked is hard to proof, but what would scum get from claiming to be RB'ed? Well, with this reasoning he would sink on your scum meter... Everything mafia do is cause confusion and this would add to the choas. | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
On June 15 2012 02:05 ha236 wrote: Well, with this reasoning he would sink on your scum meter... Everything mafia do is cause confusion and this would add to the choas. Not only that, but the way this setup works is very vulnerable to scum claims: we may have 0 rb 1 medic, in which our medic has died, or a 1 rb 1 medic and 1 dt the difference in "roles" is 2, and there are exactly 2 scum alive. The rest of us are VT (in the 0 rb 1 medic) so we can't exactly argue with that. However in the 1 rb 1 medic and 1 dt, even if the real DT claiming now, we don't have a ML to use so ... Since we only had 1 ML at the time of claiming, 2 fake claims (and in theory, 2 counterclaims) would leave us needing 2 ML to be safe, and this is the reason why that if we did have a real DT, i believe that he would've stayed silent and tried to breadcrumb us the result of his check in his posts rather than openly opposing Grush's ridiculous claim. | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On June 15 2012 03:25 Release wrote: Not only that, but the way this setup works is very vulnerable to scum claims: we may have 0 rb 1 medic, in which our medic has died, or a 1 rb 1 medic and 1 dt the difference in "roles" is 2, and there are exactly 2 scum alive. The rest of us are VT (in the 0 rb 1 medic) so we can't exactly argue with that. However in the 1 rb 1 medic and 1 dt, even if the real DT claiming now, we don't have a ML to use so ... Since we only had 1 ML at the time of claiming, 2 fake claims (and in theory, 2 counterclaims) would leave us needing 2 ML to be safe, and this is the reason why that if we did have a real DT, i believe that he would've stayed silent and tried to breadcrumb us the result of his check in his posts rather than openly opposing Grush's ridiculous claim. How bout you just wait till the day ends and I die then to confirm all these suspicions of yours | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On June 15 2012 03:34 Release wrote: Lazer, i'd like to hear what you say, since from what i can see, you are town no matter what Will be posting lots of shit just before deadline. Just you wait : ) | ||
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Vivax
22270 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=342960¤tpage=13#247 Here voted s0lstice after defending from Release, without posting any case against s0lstice. Then he votes Release omgus style, but only after he voted for s0lstice for whatever reason. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=342960¤tpage=13#247 Here that pattern repeats again. He defends from Release, and votes for grush based on something which has been repeated over and over by whole town. On the other hand, there's really not that much to say about grush, his play was...original. The point isn't as strong, but the repeating pattern 'make cases against 1, vote 2 for no reason' is kinda suspicious. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=494&topic_id=342960 The last post. He has been playing in incredibly inconsistent way regarding his very few votes, while mantaining a style trying to post as few as he can. He only starts engaging into discussion when there are townies pressuring him, and even then he keeps his posts as short as possible. Please consider what I wrote just now if I die tonight. If I survive, I will reevaluate the case against him with more information. For sure he's a lategame lurker when there is so much information available. He didn't post any lengthy cases yet, just defending and bandwagoning. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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