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Strivers
United States358 Posts
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Pufftrees
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On August 13 2011 14:29 Pufftrees wrote: There is no offline play, why would there be? Everyone has internet, you can still play single player. The benefits of online only play greatly outweight the 0.01 percent where your internet goes down and you still want to play. Uhh what? Theres demand for it, not everyone has high speed internet let alone stable internet, stop pulling numbers out of your backside. | ||
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Sc2Requiem
United States121 Posts
On August 13 2011 14:24 TheGreenMachine wrote: Pros -More security against illegal mods, map hacks, item dupe (i may be wrong about the last 2, just what id assume, first is guaranteed) -easier to patch (blizzard's words, sorry dont have the source on hand) Cons -People with inconsistent internet or lack thereof cannot play D3 especially hardcore. (we can safely say they are a very small % of the population of people who would buy D3, sorry if you are part of the small % but blizzard cares more for the large % who have good internet) -taking our rights? (this argument has been given but really means nothing) . Pro -Makes the game much harder to pirate in case people attempt to set up free servers similar to WoW Con -Makes the game difficult to play for busy people on the go. Hotel wireless is brutal I'm really not a fan of the 2nd Con you listed, there is no such thing as rights in a video game; you pay for the content the distributor is willing to give and not for things you wish the game supported. | ||
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Pufftrees
2449 Posts
On August 13 2011 14:32 Serpico wrote: Uhh what? Theres demand for it, not everyone has high speed internet let alone stable internet, stop pulling numbers out of your backside. Well, lets just rehash the same old argument for the 100th time (another number out of ass) in this very same thread. If you don't have internet, I'm sorry, but thank god Blizzard doesn't side with people who think like you. They are smart, online only is the only way to do this. | ||
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InfC.AnatoLiy
United States154 Posts
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Barett
Canada454 Posts
On August 13 2011 14:29 Pufftrees wrote: There is no offline play, why would there be? Everyone has internet, you can still play single player. The benefits of online only play greatly outweight the 0.01 percent where your internet goes down and you still want to play. What about people like me who were looking forward to playing on the go on my Laptop? Now that is not possible T_T. Pretty ignorant post. | ||
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Me1234
Germany219 Posts
On August 13 2011 14:32 Serpico wrote: Uhh what? Theres demand for it, not everyone has high speed internet let alone stable internet, stop pulling numbers out of your backside. I would pretty much agree with Pufftrees... how do you know its more then 0.01 percent? Ya of course there is demand for it.. just like for a million other things in life but I know that I wont get most of them because the demand is just unreasonable. Most people who have the money to buy Diablo 3 can also play online. seriously, after reading the whole thread it feels like people just want to whine about it. Just because people who obviously have internet dont want to play online.. that shouldnt be a reason and well if you find places for your vacation without internet then maybe you should simply enjoy your vacation. For some reason all the places I go have internet.. of course there are places on earth without internet but like I said, just enjoy your stay then. They have already stated that the traffic is gonna be low but your connection has to be stable of course. EDIT: On August 13 2011 14:51 Barett wrote: What about people like me who were looking forward to playing on the go on my Laptop? Now that is not possible T_T. Pretty ignorant post. I have seen people with laptops who had internet, it does work, google it, its possible. | ||
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Pufftrees
2449 Posts
On August 13 2011 14:51 Barett wrote: What about people like me who were looking forward to playing on the go on my Laptop? Now that is not possible T_T. Pretty ignorant post. If your laptop is decent enough to run d3, and you are such an on the go guy that its going to be your main play style, then get wireless internet card. edit : why do i keep replying to the trolls -_- people really can't think like this | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
We're still probably all going to buy it. I just hope that we can keep all the "item buyer" fags out of our games. Don't want some noob joining and being like "I bought this instakill item, can I join your party?!". My internet sucks (Canada), so even though I'm getting a new computer, I have to play the game by transferring it from USB to a school computer. If I find that this is not possible, I will | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
To protect our online experience fully, we must ensure the absence of cheating. With the implementation of RMAH, it is extremely vital to prevent duping, hacking, and also to reduce botting as much as possible. This becomes a one shot operation because you cannot reset the server or delete items when people's money is on the line. By introducing online play, everything action is performed server side rather than client side. The client side is basically a graphical user interface. This makes it so that the hacks and dupes that existed in D2 cannot be done in D3. There is no way to manipulate data on the client side and have it reflect on the server. In regards to botting, nobody expects it to disappear completely, but having strictly server side operations will make programing bots more difficult, and catching bots easier. The decision for online play is a major dilemma. On one hand you have offline play which a portion of the players will do at some point, but on the other hand, you have the fairness of online play. With the implementation of RMAH, that fairness is absolutely critical. To my personal preference, I would sacrifice all the time I would have spent playing D3 offline in order to secure a good experience online. If D3 is anything like D1 or D2, then single player won't be a long term game. You'll play through it a few times, and then it gets repetitive. After I beat the game online a few times, I'm not compelled to beat it a few more times offline where my progress is meaningless. I'd rather play a game that's actually meant for SP like Skyrim. Of course other people will have their own preferences, but to me, playing Skyrim when I don't have internet isn't that much worse than playing D3. In fact, it may be even better. | ||
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Pufftrees
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NotJack
United States737 Posts
You're all special, smart snowflakes, but your argument that more than .1% of people have bad int or some people just want offline singleplayer or some people want to lan or the idea that you're not going to buy the game don't change the fact that D3 not only should be always-online, but HAS to in order to keep a fair environment and maintain a healthy economy. You really need to understand this; SC2 didn't require online-only to be as great a game as Blizzard wants, D3 does. Don't be shocked when people who have been participating in this thread are being condescending to you, your laziness and refusal to be informed/less stubborn has brought this thread to a halt, spinning around in a mindless, discussion-less vortex of people playing pattycake with poor ideas. You can read this post and get mad like most mindless people do when they have no arguments to stand on, or you can just take a nice fresh breath of air and talk about something besides how Jay Wilson is the new Dark Wanderer because he's forcing you to stay online to enjoy a game we've all been excited about for years. | ||
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
On August 13 2011 16:57 NotJack wrote: There's enough info and controversy based around the always-online debate to provide about four good posts, all of which have been rehashed hundreds of times. You're all special, smart snowflakes, but your argument that more than .1% of people have bad int or some people just want offline singleplayer or some people want to lan or the idea that you're not going to buy the game don't change the fact that D3 not only should be always-online, but HAS to in order to keep a fair environment and maintain a healthy economy. You really need to understand this; SC2 didn't require online-only to be as great a game as Blizzard wants, D3 does. Don't be shocked when people who have been participating in this thread are being condescending to you, your laziness and refusal to be informed/less stubborn has brought this thread to a halt, spinning around in a mindless, discussion-less vortex of people playing pattycake with poor ideas. You can read this post and get mad like most mindless people do when they have no arguments to stand on, or you can just take a nice fresh breath of air and talk about something besides how Jay Wilson is the new Dark Wanderer because he's forcing you to stay online to enjoy a game we've all been excited about for years. In all honesty, I don't care about a good economy when I'm soloing. It's just not important. | ||
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Barett
Canada454 Posts
On August 13 2011 14:54 Pufftrees wrote: If your laptop is decent enough to run d3, and you are such an on the go guy that its going to be your main play style, then get wireless internet card. edit : why do i keep replying to the trolls -_- people really can't think like this Are you calling me a troll? I only really use my Laptop on the go for a hour a day. I cannot justify getting a portable internet access card for 15$+ a month when I don't use it all that often. I was looking forward to playing D3 on the go before they announced this. I'll just have to keep playing Dungeons of Dredmor. | ||
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NotJack
United States737 Posts
On August 13 2011 17:15 maartendq wrote: In all honesty, I don't care about a good economy when I'm soloing. It's just not important. Yes, nerd apathy is a very common argument because you don't need to prove the point since it's opinion. Unfortunately it's not a good point because all these selfish people can't seem to understand that Blizzard is making a game for more than you, and want to make the best game possible for everyone. The argument isn't what you want that's not there, it's what should be there to make it best for all. | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On August 13 2011 17:21 NotJack wrote: Yes, nerd apathy is a very common argument because you don't need to prove the point since it's opinion. Unfortunately it's not a good point because all these selfish people can't seem to understand that Blizzard is making a game for more than you, and want to make the best game possible for everyone. The argument isn't what you want that's not there, it's what should be there to make it best for all. Or they just want to try and stop piracy and in turn punish legit customers who want single player. I dont get the excuse making for cutting out features. | ||
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TheGreenMachine
United States730 Posts
On August 13 2011 17:18 Barett wrote: Are you calling me a troll? I only really use my Laptop on the go for a hour a day. I cannot justify getting a portable internet access card for 15$+ a month when I don't use it all that often. But you can justify blizzard changing all of their code and everything so you can play offline? | ||
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NotJack
United States737 Posts
On August 13 2011 17:24 Serpico wrote: Or they just want to try and stop piracy and in turn punish legit customers who want single player. I dont get the excuse making for cutting out features. As has been said in many, many posts, including the one you're quoting, they did it because the benefits outweighed the costs. I don't want to think there's a mental gap in this discussion but I'm being left with little other conclusions. On August 13 2011 17:29 TheGreenMachine wrote: But you can justify blizzard changing all of their code and everything so you can play offline? The difficulty of changing code isn't even the thing Blizzard wants to prevent, it's ruining the community and economy. | ||
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NoobSkills
United States1603 Posts
On August 13 2011 17:34 NotJack wrote: As has been said in many, many posts, including the one you're quoting, they did it because the benefits outweighed the costs. I don't want to think there's a mental gap in this discussion but I'm being left with little other conclusions. The difficulty of changing code isn't even the thing Blizzard wants to prevent, it's ruining the community and economy. It isn't about the benefits outweighing the costs though you are on the right track. Since they have to spend less time programming by not programming a single player into the game they actually save money while making sure that everyone buys their game. I really don't see many people playing offline anyway. Perhaps there are more than I think, but all 5 of them are out of luck. | ||
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