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I've encouraged everyone to look at me neutrally... I get the sense that people are just 'assuming' I'm town because I've been vocal since the start and type big posts.... Read them, and decide for yourself.
Trackd00r was really arguing a lot.. so maybe that is what happened? I'll try not to read too much into it I guess.. hard to guess motivations...
As for why Sufficiency is the safest over Dim.. if we vote for Dim, that leaves A LOT of possibilities open... Willz could still be mafia.. you could still be mafia... I could still be mafia....
If we vote out sufficiency.. its clear how adament Dim has defended him, and how myself, you and Willz all have targetting sufficiency much more than Dim... so logically.. thats the next step....
Either way for me, it doesn't really matter.. I'll vote for Dim or Sufficiency first.. whichever you guys think will lock down our last vote....
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
As daylight savings has begun, the deadline may be changed for those not in North America. As a result, I'll bump back the deadline one hour to avoid any confusion. Additionally, this allows us to maintain the 48 hour cycle. Less than 8 hours remain in the day. Lynch locks at 11:00 KST.
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On March 13 2012 02:51 Maverick32x wrote:
I've encouraged everyone to look at me neutrally... I get the sense that people are just 'assuming' I'm town because I've been vocal since the start and type big posts.... Read them, and decide for yourself.
Trackd00r was really arguing a lot.. so maybe that is what happened? I'll try not to read too much into it I guess.. hard to guess motivations...
As for why Sufficiency is the safest over Dim.. if we vote for Dim, that leaves A LOT of possibilities open... Willz could still be mafia.. you could still be mafia... I could still be mafia....
If we vote out sufficiency.. its clear how adament Dim has defended him, and how myself, you and Willz all have targetting sufficiency much more than Dim... so logically.. thats the next step....
Either way for me, it doesn't really matter.. I'll vote for Dim or Sufficiency first.. whichever you guys think will lock down our last vote....
Does not make a bit of sense. If I turned up mafia then that would be pretty obvious that you and Willz would be town. Suff would be the obvious next lynch, but you could debate over blubb. Lynching Suff however, would go a long way in getting people to believe you were town, or win you the game if he's town himself. Might as well make use of a inactive teammate, right?
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On March 07 2012 05:36 Maverick32x wrote:
Brubbles-
Can you explain a bit more about why you think Dim is suspicious? I see a lot of flipflopping in willz's posts, and I do see where Dim is coming from with his reasoning. I don't think that is completely fabricated....
Guy's, I made a mistake. I don't see why Maverick would say such a thing to a teammate. There is no reason to put pressure back on Willz when you can easily bandwagon with with Brubbles.
This luckily doesn't mess up my read on Maverick. It does however lead me to believe that my read on Willz is incorrect.
There's some possibilities on the other mafia member, one of which I mentioned above(Maverick getting rid of an inactive teammate to establish credibility and win the game), but it's just one of the things I'm considering right now. I don't see the importance anyway. Me mentioning who my other mafia suspect was just Maverick trying to get me to choose incorrectly and immediately making it 3vs2.
Either way the lynch should be between me and Maverick. Lynching Suff is by far the more risky option. If anything, Maverick could have told Sufficiency that he no longer needs to defend himself and to let Maverick establish credibility be getting rid of him. Why wouldn't I try the same thing, instead of trying to defend someone as difficult as Sufficiency? Someone who still refuses to defend themselves!
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If the following statement confused you: "I don't see why Maverick would say such a thing to a teammate", I was saying I don't see why Maverick would put pressure back on a mafia teammate(Willz) instead of just bandwagoning with Brubbles.
After reading it, I thought it sounded a little confusing, so I figured I would elaborate.
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yeesh... okay- lets keep this in mind... we are in a lynch or lose situation.. if we screw up a lynch.. its game...
As for trying to sacrifice a mafia to establish credibility- YES!!! That is EXACTLY the problem right now!! That is why I asked you to extend your vote PAST the first person, and to look to who is also the second. You need to be right TWICE in order to win.
And that quote is an awesome example of me sticking up for you- since I saw a lot of your behaviors as pro-town. Based off my reads however- the only logical TWO (not ONE, but TWO), would be you and sufficiency.. no other players line up as well as you guys do.... I can point to every single person left and try to devise reasons why they ALONE are mafia.. However, that is not enough for us to win the game... we need to look at interactions between players and the way we all have interacted in order to come to a conclusion that WINS.
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I like how you bring up that in the quote you stick up for me lol, only to say based of your reads I'm mafia. Do you think contradicting yourself is a good thing to point out? The fact that you stuck up for me, who I know is town(obviously), and at the same time put pressure on Willz, is another obvious example of the bandwagoning you've been doing through the game to get rid of town players.
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Need to go to sleep soon, can't stay up like I did at the gunman lynch.
Who will we take down, Suff or Dimmu?
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Coming back to this thread, so DimmuKlok, you think that you mis-read me now since Blubbdavid won't go along with you? That's cute, but I'm sorry, but that's not enough proof to convince me of your innocence. You shouldn't have jumped so quickly if you didn't think you had an ironclad case (your assumption that my guilt lies with posting after Maverick was super flawed) and now you're backtracking because Blubb won't support you.
However, I feel like letting Sufficiency stand as it is is giving him too much power. It is a close vote as it is, 3 people needed to get a lynch, but Sufficiency is free to cast his vote when he wishes without any explanation. If we do have a DT as town, I think now's the time to claim to try and make the choice, keeping in mind they possibly also have a godfather. We make a wrong choice and it's GG, there's no point trying to save it unless you never ran a check on any of us.
I'm inclined to get rid of Sufficiency first, and if he flips Mafia, then logically go after DimmuKlok. However, if you guys think DimmuKlok is the more dangerous of the two, then I will go along with it. I'm trying to be objective in my opinion on DimmuKlok since he could possibly still be town and correct, but I'm finding it very hard after he jumped the gun on me, again.
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@Blubb, I'm going Suff...
And Dim- I'm not saying my reads are perfect by ANY stretch of the imagination.. but it shows that I make decisions based off the information I have presented at the moment..
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Ok on the other hand, now that I've thought about it. Do we want to assume that Sufficiency gets modkilled to vote for our other suspect now? I feel this is too risky, but it's worth mentioning based on how inactive Sufficiency is.
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That is a very real possibility willz.. I'll switch to Dim if we are worried about that?
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I only brought it up as a possible option, I feel like it's a little too risky as I stated. It all revolves to how much we believe DimmuKlok is Mafia. I feel he is highly suspicious, but not enough to risk switching unless you and Blubb think it'd be worth it.
If Sufficiency flips red like we all think he will, then the trail points at DimmuKlok 100% so we would have a solid gameplan for the next day.
I feel we shouldn't be overconfident and rely on a modkill, only town people have gotten modkilled ;p
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Blubb seems way too ok with these lynches to me. I'm just saying. I thought I put up a more compelling argument, but I may have just been high.
Either way, I guess I'll go with the popular vote that isn't me of course, lol. If you guys say me and Suff are Mafia, then by all means vote off the guy who isn't contributing and let me live to see if he was in fact mafia the whole time. I promise voting me off will lose you the game.
Whatever you think my agenda has been, I've just been giving my honest reads of people.
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whoa.. super TWIST!!! I will say Dim.. you just got some serious +town in my book... this is looking more difficult than I thought....
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I agree Maverick, it's kinda problematic that we wouldn't of had a successful lynch if not for Dimm switching, since Blubb never did. Though it remains to be seen if Sufficiency was actually Mafia all along.
In any case awaiting mods eagerly and thanks for all you've done to keep this game going.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
lol opps. For some reason I pushed it back two hours, rather than one o.O
Anyways, night post incoming.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB_mSQXd-qQ&feature=endscreen&NR=1
Night Four
Sufficiency was too busy to post in the thread because he was devising a plan. An evil plan. It had something to do with kidnapping. The details aren't important.
By stealing the power coins, the power rangers would be powerless!
The town was DOOMED!
Then the hero mod stepped in and modkilled him for not voting.
Sufficiency the Goldar (Mafia Goon) has been lynched.
You have 23 hours to submit your night actions.
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Sooo... Blubb has been mafia all along?
One of us is going to die tonight. My guess is it will be Willz because he doesn't have a major stance. I've been against Mav, Mav against me. With Blubb being the last mafia, this would be ideal.
I'm just saying this to remind you guys you might not be able to contribute soon...
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