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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
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Coagulation
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
yamato77 (5) - Zessionar, Vivax, HiroPro, layabout, Hopeless1der HiroPro (2) - Coagulation, marvellosity Zessionar (2) - Artanis[XP], marvellosity (1) - WeWinMafia Coagulation (1) - grush57 Mattchew (0) - risk.nuke (0) - layabout (0) - Currently, no one is set to be lynched. With 16 players alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch. Deadline is in roughly 17 hours. If you notice any errors in the vote count, please let me know! | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
On February 15 2013 08:50 layabout wrote: crap didn't mean to post yamato is willing to call zessionar scum and vote for him but he continues to post without backing up his vote even when asked. ##vote yamato77 So you're voting for me because I ignored you? Alright, cool. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
When someone starts the game as he did, voting a player under "random" pretensions, I immediately am inclined to think they're mafia. It's a very dumb way to look like you're playing around and being funny with the rest of town, when in reality you're starting what sometimes becomes a trend, establishing an early atmosphere of voting people on a whim, for almost no reason at all. It is in these types of environments that mafia thrive. And indeed, it did turn into a trend as soon as he threw his vote on me for something completely townie, and barely justifying it. How is me trying to figure out people's alignments scummy? To be clear, when I "insinuated" that Mattchew/Syllo were mafia, I was in the process of attempting to get information that would lead me toward their alignment. i consider the possibility that they are mafia, because in some way, what they're doing could come from a mafia perspective. In fact, since that time, the information I've been able to ascertain has told me the opposite, they seem town. Why does he want to paint me scum so quick for this? And indeed, when I indirectly ask about his read, he says he hasn't called me scum. What sense does this make? If anything, it only serves to strengthen my bias against him, that he's not playing to figure out my alignment, he's playing to stir shit up with me and fuck off with his reads. His other "reads" have been very noncommittal, especially with regards to Marv, where he says he "agrees with Toad" (who has voted for Marv) and then lists a whole bunch of reasons he isn't jumping on it. Waiting for the opportune moment, I presume? Perhaps I haven't really explained myself thoroughly up to this point, but when you look at him from my perspective, Zess' play makes no sense for a townie. The fact that he's continued to be spammy and contentless since my early vote on him only serves to steel my resolve. Dude is mafia. | ||
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Zessionar
Azerbaijan178 Posts
Zess is throwing around votes for no reason, that leads to an environment where everyone votes for no reason. But I really only did it very early on, where votes obviously mean almost nothing. And I did it to get the game going. The phase of fooling around, to get the game going is over now. ##unvote and hell yes i am noncomittal because it's fucking day1 and i have enough time left to take a stance. If I want to lynch marv or anyone else, you will notice and i won't vote anyone (from now on) for no damn good reason. your case against me is completely pointless, because all that doesnt make me scummy. | ||
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yamato77
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On February 15 2013 07:03 sandroba wrote: I'm reading this thread constantly yet I find no will whatsoever to comment on anything. Toad and Zes are spamming the thread and producing no info whatsoever, marv seems content to comment without actually moving things alone and syllo has yet to come here and complain I'm not posting enough and has been pretty inactive himself. For now I'm set on lynching ObviousOne, because he is lurking the most and I have no background on him or Coagulation who I've yet to see do anything relevant in any game I played with him (also because I enjoy lynching jackal, so his offspring will have to do in his absence). I never really have a problem with you not posting enough, but rather with what you post when you do, and certainly not when am not finding anything worth commenting on. Content-wise I've so far either agreed with everything you have said or found your reads consistent with what I would expect. This game doesn't have enough content producers and has a bunch of people who rarely post enough to get a good read of them, which is why I wouldn't mind lynching someone like ObviousOne. However, looking at the very little he has posted so far, I'm not confident that he will flip mafia. In his newbie games he has been much more useful than he has so far been in this game, but it's still difficult to believe this is how he would post as mafia; he isn't even trying to fake content, but rather seems proud about the lack of it. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
Marvel do you actually find hiropro's yamato vote and the later justification suspicious? Do you have a read on yamato? | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12973 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
Hiro's reasoning is quite weak, and quite disappointing after he dropped his big vote now I'll explain later. The only one's reasoning that has a point is Layabout's. But even so I don't think the leap between bad and scum is that suspicious. I told myself that this morning I'd have figured out who I want to lynch but well. We have basically no performance from Obvious, Coag, Mattchew, Vivax, Grush. Pretty disappointing performances from Syllo, Sandroba and Marv who've done zero scumhunting. Are you still waiting for the game to start? | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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syllogism
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On February 15 2013 19:08 syllogism wrote: Oh it's an extended majority lynch too. Perhaps lynching someone who is so far unreadable and who isn't likely to post much isn't a terrible idea for a day 1 lynch with the way things are right now. I'm still suspicious of Yamato, but the longer post above looks ok and the wagon hasn't met much resistance so far. Marvel do you actually find hiropro's yamato vote and the later justification suspicious? Do you have a read on yamato? I do find the justification weak, but I'm not entirely sure if it's scummy. It's not a strong read but there are little behavioral snippets from Hiro that make me think maybe he's not mafia. ##Unvote I have to check on yamato, normally by now I would expect to have reasonably strong feelings one way or the other, and I don't. Somehow I also have no idea how he racked up 5 ? votes. My lunchbreak is in 2 hours so I'll try to find out what the fuck is going on with yamato and either confirm/reject my feelings on Hopeless, then. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
*steals work time* | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Vivax - no reason Zessionar - now unvoted, no reason originally Hiro - 'insinuating' questions layabout - not backing up Zess vote. He also makes a reasonable post about him: + Show Spoiler + On February 15 2013 10:11 layabout wrote: because you know, yamato was pretty vague in his accusations: He also jumps from "Zess being stupid with that vote" to "I do think Zess is likely mafia at this point. His attempts at "scum hunting" are truly pathetic. + Show Spoiler + On February 15 2013 00:33 yamato77 wrote: I've never seen syllo and sandro in the game at the same time, yet I'm supposed to know they're all buddy buddy all the time? Zess being stupid with that vote. Why are you trying to accuse me over questioning syllo's intentions? + Show Spoiler + On February 15 2013 01:51 yamato77 wrote: Marv I would say looks quite town, yes. I don't know about risk, but the fact that he's looking at Zess is encouraging. I do think Zess is likely mafia at this point. His attempts at "scum hunting" are truly pathetic. Suddenly zess being "stupid" has become zess is "bad" and "is mafia" because of this. The criticism is the same in both cases but the conclusion changes. When asked to clarify why zess is scum he describes his scumhunting as "careless" which tend to be a townie trait. And that he shows a "disregard for justification" which he himself has also shown.+ Show Spoiler + On February 15 2013 02:00 yamato77 wrote: I'm attacking how he is scum hunting, which is carelessly and with no regard for justification. I think yamato felt that he could safely put his vote on zessionar following (Artanis[Xp] and Hopeless1der) because he had been the center of discussion. He was not prepared to back it up because he has no good reasons and because he is mafia and wants to get his vote down and hide from attention. A lot of this is reasonable. For example: When asked to clarify why zess is scum he describes his scumhunting as "careless" which tend to be a townie trait. This is true, but yamato's thought processes aren't always completely correct. He actually DOES believe stuff like this as town, he's not quite refined what makes someone town and someone mafia. Finally, Hopeless - sheep. There's only one backed up vote on the wagon, which is layabout's. Anyway, I'm not totally confident yamato is town or anything, but I think he's a bad lynch for today at any rate. | ||
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Vivax
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