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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 15 2013 13:33 GMT
#421
I think he looks bad and he's the "backup" lynch
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
February 15 2013 13:35 GMT
#422
He's speaking his riddles and not doing anything. But what's more concerning is that there is no one pressuring him.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 15 2013 13:36 GMT
#423
there's nothing to pressure. he can be lynched at any time.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 15 2013 13:36 GMT
#424
certainly i think he's a better lynch than yamato.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
February 15 2013 13:42 GMT
#425
I'm trying to think of reasons why you would want to lynch him without pressuring him first.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 15 2013 13:44 GMT
#426
On February 15 2013 22:36 marvellosity wrote:
there's nothing to pressure. he can be lynched at any time.

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
February 15 2013 13:52 GMT
#427
Marv you had an interaction with coagulation earlier:

On February 15 2013 07:28 Coagulation wrote:
well lets see layabout seems like a mislynch sandroba seems like an ass. not necesarrily alignment indicative but I wouldnt lose sleep over lynching him. hiropro is scummy as fuck with his "lynching for fun" and his withholding info from town but I dont know if he will actually flip scum or not. grush seems to not give a shit but I cant really claim hes scummy for it.



You were satisfied with this answer and told him to go lurking. How did you find this answer satisfactory?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 15 2013 13:58 GMT
#428
it all seemed reasonable enough. he's not pushing anything mafia-oriented or anything as far as i can see. Calling layabout a mislynch? Well if layabout is town and coag is mafia, he has no interest in doing that.

I play mafia on coag's site offsite (omgus.net) which means on a fairly consistent basis over the last 6+ months or so I've been playing in games with coag, so I have a certain grasp of his play. The fact he splurged a bunch more comments after that post is also a positive thing.

I mentioned it earlier, but we just finished a game there where I was town and he was mafia, and he made a grand total of about 6 posts before conceding to me on Day 2. And he always posts more on that site than he does on TL, too.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
February 15 2013 14:04 GMT
#429
What makes you sure that layabout is town?
Zessionar
Profile Joined February 2013
Azerbaijan178 Posts
February 15 2013 14:04 GMT
#430
Okay, we have about 9 hours left if i am correct:

2. ObviousOne Filter
4. Mattchew Filter
7. HiroPro Filter
10. Hopeless1der Filter
11. Artanis[Xp] Filter
13. yamato77 Filter
14. grush57 Filter
15. layabout Filter

in the next 5 hours, i want everyone to focus on these players. I know it's half of the players in this game.
One of them will be lynched today.

in 5 hours, we will break the list down to 4 of them and in 7 hours i want only 2 of them left and in 8 hours, i want to have one guy with enough votes for a lynch.

that's my plan. Marv, toad I expect you to be helping me there.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 15 2013 14:05 GMT
#431
i'm not sure, but i think he is. his pushes on both hopeless and yamato are logical.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
February 15 2013 14:11 GMT
#432
I'd like your name in there Zess
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 15 2013 14:15 GMT
#433
It's cool that you want that Zess, but I'd rather see you lynched than any of those.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
February 15 2013 14:16 GMT
#434
On February 15 2013 16:58 Zessionar wrote:
You need like one page of text for your argument which is:
Zess is throwing around votes for no reason, that leads to an environment where everyone votes for no reason.

But I really only did it very early on, where votes obviously mean almost nothing. And I did it to get the game going.
The phase of fooling around, to get the game going is over now.

##unvote

and hell yes i am noncomittal because it's fucking day1 and i have enough time left to take a stance.
If I want to lynch marv or anyone else, you will notice and i won't vote anyone (from now on) for no damn good reason.
your case against me is completely pointless, because all that doesnt make me scummy.


The bolded part looks scummy as shit.
Zessionar
Profile Joined February 2013
Azerbaijan178 Posts
February 15 2013 14:19 GMT
#435
i don't care about the opinion of you two by the way. Just for your information. I will continue to ignore fucking vivax.
And I will ignore Artanis and I will furthermore ignore every fucking idiot that comes up with stuff without reasoning it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
February 15 2013 14:19 GMT
#436
Zess what's so townie about WWM and what's so scummy about grush?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
February 15 2013 14:20 GMT
#437
Yeah go ahead and ignore me.

##Unvote
##Vote Zessionar
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 15 2013 14:32 GMT
#438
You should ignore yourself then, as the amount of oneliners without content you've posted in this thread far exceeds mine. My posts have been concise and reasoned, whereas yours are + Show Spoiler +
frantic:
On February 15 2013 01:03 Zessionar wrote:
where are you going with that shit, marv?
do you want to make me look bad because of my super-earlygame posts?
screw you.
discussion ends right here.

horribly reasoned:
On February 14 2013 08:41 Zessionar wrote:
i picked risk.nuke, because he's decent as scum and useless and paranoid as town...
if he's town, i hope he'll prove me wrong this game...

Without content
On February 14 2013 21:48 Zessionar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 21:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 14 2013 21:25 Zessionar wrote:
anyway... do you think syllos play is strange if he's town?

No, because you want to get information out of others since you already know your own role. You can do that by pressure or by asking questions. Since apparently they have history, I don't find it surprising he'd go after Sandroba.
if not, do you think yamatos question implies that it's strange?
if yes, do think it's scummy to call syllos play strange, when it actually isnt strange at all?

His post was before risk clarified that syllo and sandroba knew eachother well and that they can tell if the other is scum quickly. If he simply didn't understand the logic behind it, then I would consider it null. If he does know about their meta, then I'd consider it slightly strange/scummy. I would assume they have meta from the way syllo formulated his question, but I can understand the question.


unvote me.

Downright atrocious:
On February 15 2013 02:18 Zessionar wrote:
Another topic:
Masons, claim!

In general your game has been horrible. I don't know if you're scum or bad town, but I don't see any better candidate so far. How about you take your own advice and reason why your list is good? I'm guessing it's going to come down to the amount of posts, which is a terrible reason as you have a shitton of posts which amount to nothing.

Furthermore
On February 14 2013 21:25 Zessionar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 21:08 syllogism wrote:
On February 14 2013 20:53 sandroba wrote:
@syllo I don't see anything alignment indicative in matchew's post. If anything, it's slightly townie to say something like that, even though it's not a good way to go about things. I wonder why you singled out that post instead of zessionar who over explained his risk vote and when confronted about his explanation he backed off.


I singled it out because it was one of the few posts with somewhat controversial content and I wanted to see if you would reach reach the same conclusion as I did, which you did. Zessionar's explanation didn't jump out to me as over explaining. I looked at him again and while his explanation seems somewhat nonsensical, he has been fairly active and spammy so far, which is slightly towny. I also think that his question asking why someone else is smurfing is feels genuine, in particular because he himself appears to be smurfing and perhaps thought that WeWinMafia's reasons for smurfing differ from his, perhaps in a way that to him might be alignment indicative.


i am not sure if it's alignment indicative just yet. but yes, i never thought about pretending i am someone else, like he is... at least not as town, since smurfing in general is rather antitown - confusing everyone else with even more strange stuff seems to be too much.
but he just could have made that part up, to keep his identity covered. right now he looks like toadesstern to me... with all the smilies...

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 19:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Then I am voting you again for OMGUS after I already voted for you.


anyway... do you think syllos play is strange if he's town?
if not, do you think yamatos question implies that it's strange?
if yes, do think it's scummy to call syllos play strange, when it actually isnt strange at all?


You say here that smurfing is anti town, yet you decided to smurf yourself without giving away your identity immediately after getting your role. Yet later, you state
On February 15 2013 04:28 Zessionar wrote:
how is revealing me "protown"
especially after i revealed myself to toad...

So smurfing is antitown, yet YOU getting revealed is antitown. Care to explain?
Zessionar
Profile Joined February 2013
Azerbaijan178 Posts
February 15 2013 14:34 GMT
#439
2. ObviousOne Filter: 1 page

this game
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397206&user=263107

old VT day1 game
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359836&user=263107

he's really only trolling this game. He was playing much more serious in his last game.
either blue or scum. makes no sense as VT -
trolling newbie players that are VT are definetely playing against their wincondition.
He stays in the lynchlist.

4. Mattchew Filter: 1 page

Vivax I think I underestimated your actual abilities and underestimated your confidence... These lead to a misguided read on you... I don't necessarily agree with how you've started this game but I'm leaning a little more null on you... Revealing supersoft is pretty towny IMO too.
"is pretty townie"
i'd like to hear why this is pretty townie tbh.
I don't know why he's buddying up with vivax.

Mattchews playstyle makes no sense to me so far. He has no goal... But well could be game specific...
He should stay in the lynchlist for now

7. HiroPro Filter: 1 page

"Also I demand that marvellosity share who this person he wanted to lynch in the beginning was."
This is kind of townish. As scum i don't really want to remind marv of his secret target...

I'd let him off the hook for today :-/
I mean his mostcount surely looks terrible but everyones post count looks terrible...

10. Hopeless1der Filter

On February 14 2013 22:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 08:41 Zessionar wrote:
i picked risk.nuke, because he's decent as scum and useless and paranoid as town...
if he's town, i hope he'll prove me wrong this game...

Zess, how exagerated was this statement? You immediately backed off, but I'd like to hear about where you drew the conclusions that risk was
A) decent as scum
B) Useless and paranoid as town

Either of the two would be acceptable, as I think you're scum for pulling reasons out of thin air with no justification.


the whole discussion about my game-starter-vote on risk seems to be so exagerated from my point of view...
I think it was obvious, that this vote had almost no deeper meaning... Maybe it's my fault that people put too much thinking into this... I think accusing me for that randomvote was the perfect situation for scum to look like contributing.
don't know if hopeless is just bad and didnt see how unimportant that whole thing was, or i am bad that i put too much effort into explaining something, that had no explanation in the first place or he's scum...

"I voted for you because I find YOU suspicious, and I felt Vivax was going to jump all over me for not voting because he's pigheaded that way."
hmmm i don't like that very much... it's so weak. These votes on me are just terrible.
I if you're town and you want to win, you don't want to lynch me. That's just dumb.
Everyone who does a little research knows, that i get shot early as town... but whatever. It's just sad, that many players do no research about their favourite lynchcandidate. I mean a bad case should be a scumtell, because a townie that wants to win is either honest and says he didnt do his homework or he fucking does his homework and doesnt come up with terrible cases.


__________________________________________________


first four players... speedanalysis...
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 15 2013 14:38 GMT
#440
On February 15 2013 23:34 Zessionar wrote:
because a townie that wants to win is either honest and says he didnt do his homework or he fucking does his homework and doesnt come up with terrible cases.
first four players... speedanalysis...

Are you serious?
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