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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 24 2012 21:47 GMT
#401
I'm going to say it again. I don't understand Radfield's strong town-read on Zentor at all, when he's only been unconstructive.

Is this not odd?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 24 2012 21:48 GMT
#402
So let me explain just a little bit more why I'm suspicious of Zentor.

At first I had a pretty strong town read on him, since his MO at the start of SS mafia was also to troll, and then say he was "starting discussion" or whatever (that time, he ran a joke campaign for mayor, this time he votes for himself.)

However, what happened in SS mafia was that he took accusations against him seriously, although he did continue playing the tard card. Here's an example:

On April 13 2012 10:01 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 09:55 marvellosity wrote:
On April 13 2012 09:54 MrZentor wrote:
I meant that in a normal game, the only communication you can't see is the scum QT.

In this game there is other communication that you can't see besides the scum QT.

Capiche?


Zentor, why so serious


I just felt the need to show that they misinterpreted my post as a "scumslip".

I always feel the need to clarify when I accidentally post something that is misleading/vague or when somebody misinterprets my post.

Thanks for the vote, Michael!

A vote for me is a vote for the death of a scum(probably Ace)


I'm actually not so sure anymore about him. After rereading his filter in SS mafia it looks like the derping continued a lot longer than I remembered. Why I originally said I thought he was the SK was that he wasn't trying to help the town, but he also wasn't trying to play like a townie; I thought that if he was actually scum with buddies in a QT he would be trying harder to fit in. Now I think there's a pretty good chance he could be SK, scum, or town and just not give a shit. It's like he's trying to slowly build up to being Kenpachi.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 24 2012 21:49 GMT
#403
On April 25 2012 06:39 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 06:25 marvellosity wrote:
On April 25 2012 06:12 Forumite wrote:
On April 25 2012 06:09 marvellosity wrote:
On April 25 2012 06:08 Forumite wrote:
What was up with Marvel? Was it more than him avoiding attention? Cursory glance through his filter told me that he´s not very aggressive, but that could be because most of his posts have been used to defend himself from the lynch.


Well, I could be more aggressive if you like. You big ninny. Any questions for me while we're here?



What do you think about snarfs? You and him are the only players I haven´t seen playing before.


Having had a look through his filter, he seems to be posting quite normally. Perhaps s&b's case on him was a little forced on him after all. I found his going after me for my 'soft-defences' to be really quite odd.

Snarf went after you for soft-defending? Meh, you are not the only one called out for soft-defending.

Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 06:23 SamuelLJackson wrote:
On April 25 2012 06:16 Forumite wrote:
On April 25 2012 06:11 SamuelLJackson wrote:
I think Zentor has a fairly decent point here

Not to begin with the fact that I was referring to the fact that we had 4 people voting marv and at least 3 more people saying they will vote marv and suddenly out of nowhere everyone screams no-lynch is the way to go. Sadly there's probably not enough mafia in this game to call everyone mafia who were defending their buddy which leaves me with the problem that either a couple of guys are manipulative and the rest is town or I am wrong about marv.
However, even if I am wrong that situation was highly strange. Why did everyone back off like that?

Anyways. Your turn of asking a question or turning the discussion somewhere else if you like.

--- Toad

To clarify, you think what happened was that Marvel is scum, he got too close to getting lynched, and everyone changed their mind and went for a no-lynch?

I don´t know, it was very close to the lynch and we didn´t have a clear candidate, going for a no-lynch felt right at the time.


I don't know if marv is scum but I think some of the guys changing their mind last second seem pretty suspicious to me. I just don't know which of those. Radfield sounds like the best bet for tomorrow to me. He's basicly involved as mafia in every scenario I can think of.
But that's all under the assumption that we don't have 3 to 4 vets, all being town and all chickening out last second for their own reasons.

Was the case on Marvel that strong? What I saw at the time felt like it was more about him staying under the radar than him actually doing anything weird, on the other hand my readthrough was kind of rushed with just an hour before the lynch.

There were a few players up for a lynch. If there were scum voting for a no-lynch, then it could have been to defend anyone of the frontrunners.


no the case wasn't strong, it was a Plan-B lynch. A "lynch the lurker" and I thought the other lurkers that were an option (zentor and sbrubbles) were more likely to be town than marv because they have stuff in their filter that makes them look townish. Marv on the other hand had not imo and kind of in Sandros opinion. Don't know what he thought about marv because he wasn't around at that time and still isn't but he thought the other 2 guys are town as well. I think marv's a little weird but I wasn't sure about him being mafia, neither am I right now, still thought it's a decent shot for a lurker.
Also he was the only lurker that never got some action. People attacked Zentor for being weird, people (VE) attacked Sbrubbles (god I have to c&p that name every time...) for being a lurker but noone attacked Marv. Why wasn't mafia using that opportunity at all, unless you think I am mafia.

That being said: fact that everyone was backing off like crazy paranoid people is weird above anything, no matter of marvs alignment.

And no, there were not a couple of guys taking votes. Marv had 4 votes and 3 people saying they're willing to vote him. the next guy had 3 votes and everyone else said they're not going to vote him followed by a bunch of 2 or 1 voters who noone was willing to support either. Marv was the only one who was at danger yesterday.

--- Toad
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 24 2012 21:54 GMT
#404
On April 25 2012 06:32 prplhz wrote:
Maybe I would focus less on MrZentor if he gave a shit about proving his innocence to me by answering my very specific questions, but he's blatantly not doing that and I don't think I can think of a single reason a town player would do that. Scum players would do it because they haven't a fucking clue. Guy has no reads and all of his posting has been shitting on me and Forumite, I have no idea how you can think that that is "strongly town aligned". Being an asshole for a reason is townie, being an asshole for no reason is contrived, fake, and scummy.


This post made me wonder if I had accidentally skipped over his "very specific questions".

So I decided to skim over his filter.

Guess what?
+ Show Spoiler +
That's right.


Besides the first four questions at the beginning of the game which I answered well, he only asked the following of me.


Now, will you tell me why you decided to be all piss and vinegar in the beginning of this game? Because I'm really interested in that.

On April 24 2012 06:39 prplhz wrote:
MrZentor .....

TELL ME WHY THE HELL YOU DECIDED THAT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO BE ALL AGGRESSIVE IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS GAME RIGHT NOW

everybody agrees that your case was weak and i think it looks really fake, full of dumb contradictions and grasping in the thin air, tell me why you decided to be all pissed off and make bad cases instead of playing your usual game?

I'm also going to vote marvellosity just to get a lynch. I prefer lynches to no lynches and I don't think that marvellosity is clear townie at all.


So, his "very specifics questions" ends up being him getting angry because I won't reveal why I'm playing this style.

Now stop complaining, Prphlz; it's annoying.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
April 24 2012 21:55 GMT
#405
Freezing all night actions/action changes.

Daypost in 5. Please do not post after the hour if the post is delayed.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 24 2012 21:56 GMT
#406
Also, I forgot.

##Vote MrZentor
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 24 2012 21:57 GMT
#407
Dang it, it's not day yet.

I'll wait a minute or two.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 24 2012 21:59 GMT
#408
Enjoy getting lynched tomorrow.

I like how you know you're not getting hit tonight, most people who think are "obviously innocent" are afraid of getting shot.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 24 2012 21:59 GMT
#409
My strongest mafia reads right now are rad + forumite + marv, just for the record. Rad being #1, unsure about forumite and marv is basicly a filler that makes sense.

Just in case of preemptive faceloseage.

--- Toad
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 24 2012 22:00 GMT
#410
If I'm being as disruptive as you say I am, Prphlz, why would I fear the mafia?
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 24 2012 22:00 GMT
#411
On April 25 2012 06:49 SamuelLJackson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 06:39 Forumite wrote:
On April 25 2012 06:25 marvellosity wrote:
On April 25 2012 06:12 Forumite wrote:
On April 25 2012 06:09 marvellosity wrote:
On April 25 2012 06:08 Forumite wrote:
What was up with Marvel? Was it more than him avoiding attention? Cursory glance through his filter told me that he´s not very aggressive, but that could be because most of his posts have been used to defend himself from the lynch.


Well, I could be more aggressive if you like. You big ninny. Any questions for me while we're here?



What do you think about snarfs? You and him are the only players I haven´t seen playing before.


Having had a look through his filter, he seems to be posting quite normally. Perhaps s&b's case on him was a little forced on him after all. I found his going after me for my 'soft-defences' to be really quite odd.

Snarf went after you for soft-defending? Meh, you are not the only one called out for soft-defending.

On April 25 2012 06:23 SamuelLJackson wrote:
On April 25 2012 06:16 Forumite wrote:
On April 25 2012 06:11 SamuelLJackson wrote:
I think Zentor has a fairly decent point here

Not to begin with the fact that I was referring to the fact that we had 4 people voting marv and at least 3 more people saying they will vote marv and suddenly out of nowhere everyone screams no-lynch is the way to go. Sadly there's probably not enough mafia in this game to call everyone mafia who were defending their buddy which leaves me with the problem that either a couple of guys are manipulative and the rest is town or I am wrong about marv.
However, even if I am wrong that situation was highly strange. Why did everyone back off like that?

Anyways. Your turn of asking a question or turning the discussion somewhere else if you like.

--- Toad

To clarify, you think what happened was that Marvel is scum, he got too close to getting lynched, and everyone changed their mind and went for a no-lynch?

I don´t know, it was very close to the lynch and we didn´t have a clear candidate, going for a no-lynch felt right at the time.


I don't know if marv is scum but I think some of the guys changing their mind last second seem pretty suspicious to me. I just don't know which of those. Radfield sounds like the best bet for tomorrow to me. He's basicly involved as mafia in every scenario I can think of.
But that's all under the assumption that we don't have 3 to 4 vets, all being town and all chickening out last second for their own reasons.

Was the case on Marvel that strong? What I saw at the time felt like it was more about him staying under the radar than him actually doing anything weird, on the other hand my readthrough was kind of rushed with just an hour before the lynch.

There were a few players up for a lynch. If there were scum voting for a no-lynch, then it could have been to defend anyone of the frontrunners.


no the case wasn't strong, it was a Plan-B lynch. A "lynch the lurker" and I thought the other lurkers that were an option (zentor and sbrubbles) were more likely to be town than marv because they have stuff in their filter that makes them look townish. Marv on the other hand had not imo and kind of in Sandros opinion. Don't know what he thought about marv because he wasn't around at that time and still isn't but he thought the other 2 guys are town as well. I think marv's a little weird but I wasn't sure about him being mafia, neither am I right now, still thought it's a decent shot for a lurker.
Also he was the only lurker that never got some action. People attacked Zentor for being weird, people (VE) attacked Sbrubbles (god I have to c&p that name every time...) for being a lurker but noone attacked Marv. Why wasn't mafia using that opportunity at all, unless you think I am mafia.

That being said: fact that everyone was backing off like crazy paranoid people is weird above anything, no matter of marvs alignment.

And no, there were not a couple of guys taking votes. Marv had 4 votes and 3 people saying they're willing to vote him. the next guy had 3 votes and everyone else said they're not going to vote him followed by a bunch of 2 or 1 voters who noone was willing to support either. Marv was the only one who was at danger yesterday.

--- Toad

Phrased like that, the lynch makes much more sense. My primary objection to a Marvel lynch was acutally that he didn´t have any scumtells, instead that he didn´t show much at all at the time.
:3
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 24 2012 22:05 GMT
#412
On April 25 2012 07:00 MrZentor wrote:
If I'm being as disruptive as you say I am, Prphlz, why would I fear the mafia?

Because you're not thinking from my POV, duh. You said yourself that you're "obviously innocent" so you think you're obviously innocent and people who think they're obviously innocent are mostly afraid of getting hit. Additionally, you obviously think you're going somewhere with this "new style" you're allegedly trying out or else you would change it or at least explain it, so that's another reason a guy like you would be afraid.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 24 2012 22:08 GMT
#413
People like you doubt my innocence, so obviously the mafia aren't going to kill me when there are vets who seem innocent.

So in a way, I guess you're saving my life.

Thank you!
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
April 24 2012 22:08 GMT
#414
Spin 2!


"Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the Wheel of Fortune Special Spin Edition!

We are here with our 13 contesta...hold on a minute...where is SamuelLJackson?"

wherebugsgo was handed a slip of paper by a producer off-camera.

"Oh, I see. Well, that's unfortunate. SamuelLJackson has gone home, convinced he would never win. He said something about the mother <censored> snakes being in the mother <censored> dressing room."

"Nevertheless, we must continue. Who will be voted off today? Let's find out who is the best and the worst at our games for today."

SamuelLJackson the ordinary contestant has returned home!

Little less than 48 hours to get votes in. Majority is still 7 with 12 alive.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 24 2012 22:08 GMT
#415
^---

On April 25 2012 06:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
Freezing all night actions/action changes.

Daypost in 5. Please do not post after the hour if the post is delayed.

prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 24 2012 22:09 GMT
#416
##Vote MrZentor
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 24 2012 22:09 GMT
#417
gg, sry for the post 8(
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 24 2012 22:10 GMT
#418
GG TOAD
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 24 2012 22:11 GMT
#419
##Vote MrZentor
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 24 2012 22:18 GMT
#420
On April 25 2012 07:08 MrZentor wrote:
People like you doubt my innocence, so obviously the mafia aren't going to kill me when there are vets who seem innocent.

So in a way, I guess you're saving my life.

Show nested quote +
Thank you!

Great plan. We saved you but lost the hydra.

##Vote MrZentor
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