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On April 30 2012 06:38 Kaal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 06:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
I think the main thing that disappoints me of people not liking Code Geass as much as me is not that they don't like it, but that they seem SO surprised that people like me like it so much.
The majority of its viewers thought it was a master piece, or close to it. Just check its ratings on anime sites, it has one of the highest ratings in all 3500+ or so notable anime works out there.
So really, the people who don't think it's good or didn't like it much are in the minority. The reason CG R2 is rated so high on MAL and lots of other anime sites is because /a/ thought it would be funny to do that.
I'm pretty sure there are a huge amount of people who honestly believe CG is an amazing show with a deep and intricate story because it involves politics and war. The majority of those people only have Naruto and Dragon Ball to compare it to, though.
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On April 30 2012 06:37 Tabbris wrote:
Naruto is a masterpiece
Are you trying to turn this into nuclear warfare?
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On April 30 2012 00:37 Kaal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2012 21:50 FreudianTrip wrote:
Let me prefix this with the fact that I'm not a huge anime guy, I just watch the main ones (Champloo, Trigun, Bebop etc.)
So after consulting the reccomendation image I watched Darker Than Black, started off thinking it was awful but it got pretty good towards the end.
I've finished the first series and I notice there seems to be a season 1.5 and 2. Is it worth watching either of these? I kind of feel like I've experienced the arc of the story and don't really know where it can go that's any good. Just Hei being chased for 23 episodes doesn't seem very exciting.
Should I bother with it or just move on to something else? Move on to something else. S2 is terrible, as is the OVA. Sent, why the fuck did you start reading hoshizora. That's like the exact opposite of anything you'd ever like. It's like if you read Da Capo.
But! But! Those blonde chicks! Really hot!
On April 30 2012 05:12 mcimba42 wrote:
I don't think I've ever posted in this thread but I occasionally lurk around for a couple of pages and I happened to see the Code Geass discussion above, and I think there are a lot of people who just try to take that show way more seriously than they should.
I see people here watching and enjoying those generic moe moe "cute girls doing cute things" shows that air every season, but then they claim Code Geass is awful for having a bunch of plot holes and a generally pants on head retarded plot. But is that all there is to anime? Do you really watch cartoons for the amazing literary value they're well known to have? I don't think anyone will say they liked Geass because of the deep psychological themes, or the intricate plot, or the interesting and well developed characters. I personally enjoyed it because of stuff like the brilliant military tactics from the brilliant military mastermind that is Lelouch (such as baiting people onto a bridge and making it collapse, baiting people into a building and making it collapse, or baiting people onto a bridge and making a building collapse on top of it), all of the fabulous and the borderline homo, the pretty mechas, the jumbled mess it called plot (like going through the "sword of akasha" and into the "world of c", where he met his deceased mother and did something to God, thus choosing the future instead of the past), the ridiculous chess metaphors (complete with illegal chess moves), the "Haha, I just predicted every word you would have said in a 20 minute long conversation and prepared a video of me replying perfectly with 100% exact timing to fool you. For the second time!", the "who is this guy, hasn't he died twice alrea--LOYALTY!!", the completely bullshit cliffhangers every other episode, the YAMATO DAMASHII NIHON BANZAI, etc, etc. It doesn't deserve any awards, not is it revolutionary (or even good, in terms of "objective" quality), but I found it really fucking enjoyable to watch. Sure, it was a trainwreck, but as any self respecting trainwreck, it's bloody entertaining to watch. It's definitely no masterpiece (in fact, I'd love to try whatever the guy who said that has been smoking recently), but I found it a hell of a lot more entertaining and enjoyable than anything in these last couple of seasons.
But that is wrong, laughably horribly wrong. Have you never read what people who love Code Geass say about the show??? The praise it for EXACTLY those reasons.
>brilliant tactics from brilliant military mastermind
Stopped reading there.
Well it is a masterpiece, relatively. How many anime can you name that are better than Code Geass in its genre, or what it does? (Extremely stylistic anime hitting a bunch of audiences with a unique ending).
What, how many mecha shows are better?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=234486
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=332650
Practically every show I mentioned is better.
On April 30 2012 06:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
I think the main thing that disappoints me of people not liking Code Geass as much as me is not that they don't like it, but that they seem SO surprised that people like me like it so much.
The majority of its viewers thought it was a master piece, or close to it. Just check its ratings on anime sites, it has one of the highest ratings in all 3500+ or so notable anime works out there.
So really, the people who don't think it's good or didn't like it much are in the minority.
Popularity is not an indication of quality, please stop using that argument. Or are you going to start telling me Naruto and Bleach are masterpieces?
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On April 30 2012 07:00 solidbebe wrote:Are you trying to turn this into nuclear warfare?
I mean, I don't get when people randomly hate on naruto either, if you remove all of the filler, and just stick to manga/episodes that follow it closely.. its pretty good. I think its just people hating on it for being super mainstream and ofcourse us hipsters need to stay far far away
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On April 30 2012 07:05 biology]major wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 07:00 solidbebe wrote:On April 30 2012 06:37 Tabbris wrote:
Naruto is a masterpiece Are you trying to turn this into nuclear warfare? I mean, I don't get when people randomly hate on naruto either, if you remove all of the filler, and just stick to manga/episodes that follow it closely.. its pretty good. I think its just people hating on it for being super mainstream and ofcourse us hipsters need to stay far far away
No, the hate is because somewhere down the line, the mangaka clearly lost track of where the heck the story was supposed to go because he opted to extend the story to milk out more cash. This resulted in silly plot development. The same thing also applies to Bleach.
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Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 05:12 mcimba42 wrote:
I don't think I've ever posted in this thread but I occasionally lurk around for a couple of pages and I happened to see the Code Geass discussion above, and I think there are a lot of people who just try to take that show way more seriously than they should.
I see people here watching and enjoying those generic moe moe "cute girls doing cute things" shows that air every season, but then they claim Code Geass is awful for having a bunch of plot holes and a generally pants on head retarded plot. But is that all there is to anime? Do you really watch cartoons for the amazing literary value they're well known to have? I don't think anyone will say they liked Geass because of the deep psychological themes, or the intricate plot, or the interesting and well developed characters. I personally enjoyed it because of stuff like the brilliant military tactics from the brilliant military mastermind that is Lelouch (such as baiting people onto a bridge and making it collapse, baiting people into a building and making it collapse, or baiting people onto a bridge and making a building collapse on top of it), all of the fabulous and the borderline homo, the pretty mechas, the jumbled mess it called plot (like going through the "sword of akasha" and into the "world of c", where he met his deceased mother and did something to God, thus choosing the future instead of the past), the ridiculous chess metaphors (complete with illegal chess moves), the "Haha, I just predicted every word you would have said in a 20 minute long conversation and prepared a video of me replying perfectly with 100% exact timing to fool you. For the second time!", the "who is this guy, hasn't he died twice alrea--LOYALTY!!", the completely bullshit cliffhangers every other episode, the YAMATO DAMASHII NIHON BANZAI, etc, etc. It doesn't deserve any awards, not is it revolutionary (or even good, in terms of "objective" quality), but I found it really fucking enjoyable to watch. Sure, it was a trainwreck, but as any self respecting trainwreck, it's bloody entertaining to watch. It's definitely no masterpiece (in fact, I'd love to try whatever the guy who said that has been smoking recently), but I found it a hell of a lot more entertaining and enjoyable than anything in these last couple of seasons. But that is wrong, laughably horribly wrong. Have you never read what people who love Code Geass say about the show??? The praise it for EXACTLY those reasons. >brilliant tactics from brilliant military mastermind Stopped reading there.
I assumed people on TL actually sort of had an idea of what they were doing, but apparently they do give CG more praise than it deserves.
Also, that was as obvious as sarcasm could possibly be.
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On April 30 2012 07:22 mcimba42 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 05:12 mcimba42 wrote:
I don't think I've ever posted in this thread but I occasionally lurk around for a couple of pages and I happened to see the Code Geass discussion above, and I think there are a lot of people who just try to take that show way more seriously than they should.
I see people here watching and enjoying those generic moe moe "cute girls doing cute things" shows that air every season, but then they claim Code Geass is awful for having a bunch of plot holes and a generally pants on head retarded plot. But is that all there is to anime? Do you really watch cartoons for the amazing literary value they're well known to have? I don't think anyone will say they liked Geass because of the deep psychological themes, or the intricate plot, or the interesting and well developed characters. I personally enjoyed it because of stuff like the brilliant military tactics from the brilliant military mastermind that is Lelouch (such as baiting people onto a bridge and making it collapse, baiting people into a building and making it collapse, or baiting people onto a bridge and making a building collapse on top of it), all of the fabulous and the borderline homo, the pretty mechas, the jumbled mess it called plot (like going through the "sword of akasha" and into the "world of c", where he met his deceased mother and did something to God, thus choosing the future instead of the past), the ridiculous chess metaphors (complete with illegal chess moves), the "Haha, I just predicted every word you would have said in a 20 minute long conversation and prepared a video of me replying perfectly with 100% exact timing to fool you. For the second time!", the "who is this guy, hasn't he died twice alrea--LOYALTY!!", the completely bullshit cliffhangers every other episode, the YAMATO DAMASHII NIHON BANZAI, etc, etc. It doesn't deserve any awards, not is it revolutionary (or even good, in terms of "objective" quality), but I found it really fucking enjoyable to watch. Sure, it was a trainwreck, but as any self respecting trainwreck, it's bloody entertaining to watch. It's definitely no masterpiece (in fact, I'd love to try whatever the guy who said that has been smoking recently), but I found it a hell of a lot more entertaining and enjoyable than anything in these last couple of seasons. But that is wrong, laughably horribly wrong. Have you never read what people who love Code Geass say about the show??? The praise it for EXACTLY those reasons. >brilliant tactics from brilliant military mastermind Stopped reading there. I assumed people on TL actually sort of had an idea of what they were doing, but apparently they do give CG more praise than it deserves. Also, that was as obvious as sarcasm could possibly be.
I didn't notice it was all sarcasm until I read further down. I actually believed when reading at that point, you were serious.
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Y'all need to calm down and stop being Romanian.
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On April 30 2012 07:29 Nagisama wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 07:22 mcimba42 wrote:On April 30 2012 05:12 mcimba42 wrote:
I don't think I've ever posted in this thread but I occasionally lurk around for a couple of pages and I happened to see the Code Geass discussion above, and I think there are a lot of people who just try to take that show way more seriously than they should.
I see people here watching and enjoying those generic moe moe "cute girls doing cute things" shows that air every season, but then they claim Code Geass is awful for having a bunch of plot holes and a generally pants on head retarded plot. But is that all there is to anime? Do you really watch cartoons for the amazing literary value they're well known to have? I don't think anyone will say they liked Geass because of the deep psychological themes, or the intricate plot, or the interesting and well developed characters. I personally enjoyed it because of stuff like the brilliant military tactics from the brilliant military mastermind that is Lelouch (such as baiting people onto a bridge and making it collapse, baiting people into a building and making it collapse, or baiting people onto a bridge and making a building collapse on top of it), all of the fabulous and the borderline homo, the pretty mechas, the jumbled mess it called plot (like going through the "sword of akasha" and into the "world of c", where he met his deceased mother and did something to God, thus choosing the future instead of the past), the ridiculous chess metaphors (complete with illegal chess moves), the "Haha, I just predicted every word you would have said in a 20 minute long conversation and prepared a video of me replying perfectly with 100% exact timing to fool you. For the second time!", the "who is this guy, hasn't he died twice alrea--LOYALTY!!", the completely bullshit cliffhangers every other episode, the YAMATO DAMASHII NIHON BANZAI, etc, etc. It doesn't deserve any awards, not is it revolutionary (or even good, in terms of "objective" quality), but I found it really fucking enjoyable to watch. Sure, it was a trainwreck, but as any self respecting trainwreck, it's bloody entertaining to watch. It's definitely no masterpiece (in fact, I'd love to try whatever the guy who said that has been smoking recently), but I found it a hell of a lot more entertaining and enjoyable than anything in these last couple of seasons. But that is wrong, laughably horribly wrong. Have you never read what people who love Code Geass say about the show??? The praise it for EXACTLY those reasons. >brilliant tactics from brilliant military mastermind Stopped reading there. I assumed people on TL actually sort of had an idea of what they were doing, but apparently they do give CG more praise than it deserves. Also, that was as obvious as sarcasm could possibly be. I didn't notice it was all sarcasm until I read further down. I actually believed when reading at that point, you were serious.
Did the repetition and the exaggeration not make it obvious? Would anyone actually say "brilliant military tactics from the beillliant military mastermind" seriously?
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On April 30 2012 07:36 mcimba42 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 07:29 Nagisama wrote:On April 30 2012 07:22 mcimba42 wrote:On April 30 2012 05:12 mcimba42 wrote:
I don't think I've ever posted in this thread but I occasionally lurk around for a couple of pages and I happened to see the Code Geass discussion above, and I think there are a lot of people who just try to take that show way more seriously than they should.
I see people here watching and enjoying those generic moe moe "cute girls doing cute things" shows that air every season, but then they claim Code Geass is awful for having a bunch of plot holes and a generally pants on head retarded plot. But is that all there is to anime? Do you really watch cartoons for the amazing literary value they're well known to have? I don't think anyone will say they liked Geass because of the deep psychological themes, or the intricate plot, or the interesting and well developed characters. I personally enjoyed it because of stuff like the brilliant military tactics from the brilliant military mastermind that is Lelouch (such as baiting people onto a bridge and making it collapse, baiting people into a building and making it collapse, or baiting people onto a bridge and making a building collapse on top of it), all of the fabulous and the borderline homo, the pretty mechas, the jumbled mess it called plot (like going through the "sword of akasha" and into the "world of c", where he met his deceased mother and did something to God, thus choosing the future instead of the past), the ridiculous chess metaphors (complete with illegal chess moves), the "Haha, I just predicted every word you would have said in a 20 minute long conversation and prepared a video of me replying perfectly with 100% exact timing to fool you. For the second time!", the "who is this guy, hasn't he died twice alrea--LOYALTY!!", the completely bullshit cliffhangers every other episode, the YAMATO DAMASHII NIHON BANZAI, etc, etc. It doesn't deserve any awards, not is it revolutionary (or even good, in terms of "objective" quality), but I found it really fucking enjoyable to watch. Sure, it was a trainwreck, but as any self respecting trainwreck, it's bloody entertaining to watch. It's definitely no masterpiece (in fact, I'd love to try whatever the guy who said that has been smoking recently), but I found it a hell of a lot more entertaining and enjoyable than anything in these last couple of seasons. But that is wrong, laughably horribly wrong. Have you never read what people who love Code Geass say about the show??? The praise it for EXACTLY those reasons. >brilliant tactics from brilliant military mastermind Stopped reading there. I assumed people on TL actually sort of had an idea of what they were doing, but apparently they do give CG more praise than it deserves. Also, that was as obvious as sarcasm could possibly be. I didn't notice it was all sarcasm until I read further down. I actually believed when reading at that point, you were serious. Did the repetition and the exaggeration not make it obvious? Would anyone actually say "brilliant military tactics from the beillliant military mastermind" seriously?
With people who like Code Geass, you can never be sure. I wouldn't be surprised if someone has used that phrase seriously in this thread before.
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On April 30 2012 07:36 mcimba42 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 07:29 Nagisama wrote:On April 30 2012 07:22 mcimba42 wrote:On April 30 2012 05:12 mcimba42 wrote:
I don't think I've ever posted in this thread but I occasionally lurk around for a couple of pages and I happened to see the Code Geass discussion above, and I think there are a lot of people who just try to take that show way more seriously than they should.
I see people here watching and enjoying those generic moe moe "cute girls doing cute things" shows that air every season, but then they claim Code Geass is awful for having a bunch of plot holes and a generally pants on head retarded plot. But is that all there is to anime? Do you really watch cartoons for the amazing literary value they're well known to have? I don't think anyone will say they liked Geass because of the deep psychological themes, or the intricate plot, or the interesting and well developed characters. I personally enjoyed it because of stuff like the brilliant military tactics from the brilliant military mastermind that is Lelouch (such as baiting people onto a bridge and making it collapse, baiting people into a building and making it collapse, or baiting people onto a bridge and making a building collapse on top of it), all of the fabulous and the borderline homo, the pretty mechas, the jumbled mess it called plot (like going through the "sword of akasha" and into the "world of c", where he met his deceased mother and did something to God, thus choosing the future instead of the past), the ridiculous chess metaphors (complete with illegal chess moves), the "Haha, I just predicted every word you would have said in a 20 minute long conversation and prepared a video of me replying perfectly with 100% exact timing to fool you. For the second time!", the "who is this guy, hasn't he died twice alrea--LOYALTY!!", the completely bullshit cliffhangers every other episode, the YAMATO DAMASHII NIHON BANZAI, etc, etc. It doesn't deserve any awards, not is it revolutionary (or even good, in terms of "objective" quality), but I found it really fucking enjoyable to watch. Sure, it was a trainwreck, but as any self respecting trainwreck, it's bloody entertaining to watch. It's definitely no masterpiece (in fact, I'd love to try whatever the guy who said that has been smoking recently), but I found it a hell of a lot more entertaining and enjoyable than anything in these last couple of seasons. But that is wrong, laughably horribly wrong. Have you never read what people who love Code Geass say about the show??? The praise it for EXACTLY those reasons. >brilliant tactics from brilliant military mastermind Stopped reading there. I assumed people on TL actually sort of had an idea of what they were doing, but apparently they do give CG more praise than it deserves. Also, that was as obvious as sarcasm could possibly be. I didn't notice it was all sarcasm until I read further down. I actually believed when reading at that point, you were serious. Did the repetition and the exaggeration not make it obvious? Would anyone actually say "brilliant military tactics from the beillliant military mastermind" seriously?
Yes.
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On April 30 2012 07:45 Nagisama wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 07:36 mcimba42 wrote:On April 30 2012 07:29 Nagisama wrote:On April 30 2012 07:22 mcimba42 wrote:On April 30 2012 05:12 mcimba42 wrote:
I don't think I've ever posted in this thread but I occasionally lurk around for a couple of pages and I happened to see the Code Geass discussion above, and I think there are a lot of people who just try to take that show way more seriously than they should.
I see people here watching and enjoying those generic moe moe "cute girls doing cute things" shows that air every season, but then they claim Code Geass is awful for having a bunch of plot holes and a generally pants on head retarded plot. But is that all there is to anime? Do you really watch cartoons for the amazing literary value they're well known to have? I don't think anyone will say they liked Geass because of the deep psychological themes, or the intricate plot, or the interesting and well developed characters. I personally enjoyed it because of stuff like the brilliant military tactics from the brilliant military mastermind that is Lelouch (such as baiting people onto a bridge and making it collapse, baiting people into a building and making it collapse, or baiting people onto a bridge and making a building collapse on top of it), all of the fabulous and the borderline homo, the pretty mechas, the jumbled mess it called plot (like going through the "sword of akasha" and into the "world of c", where he met his deceased mother and did something to God, thus choosing the future instead of the past), the ridiculous chess metaphors (complete with illegal chess moves), the "Haha, I just predicted every word you would have said in a 20 minute long conversation and prepared a video of me replying perfectly with 100% exact timing to fool you. For the second time!", the "who is this guy, hasn't he died twice alrea--LOYALTY!!", the completely bullshit cliffhangers every other episode, the YAMATO DAMASHII NIHON BANZAI, etc, etc. It doesn't deserve any awards, not is it revolutionary (or even good, in terms of "objective" quality), but I found it really fucking enjoyable to watch. Sure, it was a trainwreck, but as any self respecting trainwreck, it's bloody entertaining to watch. It's definitely no masterpiece (in fact, I'd love to try whatever the guy who said that has been smoking recently), but I found it a hell of a lot more entertaining and enjoyable than anything in these last couple of seasons. But that is wrong, laughably horribly wrong. Have you never read what people who love Code Geass say about the show??? The praise it for EXACTLY those reasons. >brilliant tactics from brilliant military mastermind Stopped reading there. I assumed people on TL actually sort of had an idea of what they were doing, but apparently they do give CG more praise than it deserves. Also, that was as obvious as sarcasm could possibly be. I didn't notice it was all sarcasm until I read further down. I actually believed when reading at that point, you were serious. Did the repetition and the exaggeration not make it obvious? Would anyone actually say "brilliant military tactics from the beillliant military mastermind" seriously? Yes.
Well, that's pretty disappointing.
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Code Geass was okay. The only part that made it hard to watch was how overly dramatic it was. At first when I saw it I decided that it was for preteens, but after actually finishing it, I don't regret spending my time watching it.
Most of it was okay, but the whole Zero "YOU CAN LIVE WITH ME OR DIE WITH ME." and a lot of other stuff was just dumb/overly dramatic and made me go wtf?
Also various other parts like "THE SAME PLAN FROM THE BLACK REBELLION!" "I AM ZERO!" "WE ARE KNIGHTS OF JUSTICE" "HE'S MAKING ANOTHER MIRACLE!"
I'm actually surprised I remember that many quotes, but I guess they're kind of hard to forget.
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O wow, people got baited into CG talk again. iz like deja vu.
That Hyouka show any good ? I missed it in the previews..
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Stuff like that was part of what made it so enjoyable for me, especially when combined with Fukuyama's voice on the high school student MC and Lelouch's exaggerated FABULOUS gestures during speeches and shit. Felt so out of place.
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Code Geass is basically an anime where you turn off your brain and enjoy everything, because if you actually thought about it, all you'd think about is how bad most of the characters are and how nonsensical the plot is (hey look, 19th century battle tactics with robots! \o/ )
This is why everyone thought Guilty Crown was garbage. It's because they forgot that when you have Code Geass writers, the best way to enjoy is to just not think about it. If you threw all of that away, it was actually pretty entertaining.
On April 30 2012 07:05 biology]major wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 07:00 solidbebe wrote:On April 30 2012 06:37 Tabbris wrote:
Naruto is a masterpiece Are you trying to turn this into nuclear warfare? I mean, I don't get when people randomly hate on naruto either, if you remove all of the filler, and just stick to manga/episodes that follow it closely.. its pretty good. I think its just people hating on it for being super mainstream and ofcourse us hipsters need to stay far far away
Maybe it's because I just generally don't like shounen, but Naruto's pretty average.
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See, that's what I was talking about. What's wrong with enjoying the dumb fun?
Disagree on GC though, I have no idea how one can endure 20 episodes of INORII SHUUU INORIII melodrama.
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CG was good, but calling it a masterpiece is just far too much of an overstatment, and frankly its insulting to anime in general if that is the standard.
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On April 30 2012 08:18 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Code Geass is basically an anime where you turn off your brain and enjoy everything, because if you actually thought about it, all you'd think about is how bad most of the characters are and how nonsensical the plot is (hey look, 19th century battle tactics with robots! \o/ )
This is why everyone thought Guilty Crown was garbage. It's because they forgot that when you have Code Geass writers, the best way to enjoy is to just not think about it. If you threw all of that away, it was actually pretty entertaining.
Mmmmmzz, I dont know GC was pretty bad, Even for decent eye candy it stopped supplying properly somewhere along the the line. CG managed to hold it together a fair bit longer.
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On April 30 2012 08:22 mcimba42 wrote:
See, that's what I was talking about. What's wrong with enjoying the dumb fun?
Disagree on GC though, I have no idea how one can endure 20 episodes of INORII SHUUU INORIII melodrama.
There isn't. I turned off my brain, enjoyed it, and then was done with it.
The Inori/Shu was not that bad. People just got sick of it because they paid too much attention to it. If people just ignored the show for a while when it was going on and came back when it stopped, it would be fine.
On April 30 2012 08:25 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 08:18 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Code Geass is basically an anime where you turn off your brain and enjoy everything, because if you actually thought about it, all you'd think about is how bad most of the characters are and how nonsensical the plot is (hey look, 19th century battle tactics with robots! \o/ )
This is why everyone thought Guilty Crown was garbage. It's because they forgot that when you have Code Geass writers, the best way to enjoy is to just not think about it. If you threw all of that away, it was actually pretty entertaining.
Mmmmmzz, I dont know GC was pretty bad, Even for decent eye candy it stopped supplying properly somewhere along the the line. CG managed to hold it together a fair bit longer.
Well, I agree there. I definitely think that CG held a "story" together for a while, but to me, I never really paid attention to GC for anything but random fighting.
Like, don't get wrong. GC was pretty bad at the end of it all, but in a season where there was a lot of calming slice of life stuff, I got some good action/music/entertainment out of just watching swords fly around.
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