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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 20 2013 15:20 GMT
#381
On August 21 2013 00:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rayn, talk about Koshi.
Why would he not do it as scum, and what do you like about his explanation?

This Koshi talking is somewhat boring. But I can answer that.
Because I don't call JK when 4 people are telling me to claim it. I am not going to claim something "under pressure" because 1 guy made a case. I simply won't do that. But even if I did it, you guys are seriously overreacting that this is a 100% scumclaim. Dnu how long you are going to keep hammering on it.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 20 2013 15:22 GMT
#382
I do not care to explain my townreads unless they are in danger of getting lynched.
Now excuse me, i'm gonna make a case on WoS.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 20 2013 15:22 GMT
#383
Like, why would I claim something as scum, when I don't have control over the outcome. That being said, I kinda thought that it would be more obvious that I was actually the miller.
I had a good night of sleep.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 15:22 GMT
#384
On August 21 2013 00:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 00:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rayn, talk about Koshi.
Why would he not do it as scum, and what do you like about his explanation?

This Koshi talking is somewhat boring. But I can answer that.
Because I don't call JK when 4 people are telling me to claim it. I am not going to claim something "under pressure" because 1 guy made a case. I simply won't do that. But even if I did it, you guys are seriously overreacting that this is a 100% scumclaim. Dnu how long you are going to keep hammering on it.

Um.
I dont see what the past game has ANYTHING to do with it, and I dont care about your explanation.
No gg, No skill.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
August 20 2013 15:23 GMT
#385
On August 21 2013 00:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 00:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rayn, talk about Koshi.
Why would he not do it as scum, and what do you like about his explanation?

This Koshi talking is somewhat boring. But I can answer that.
Because I don't call JK when 4 people are telling me to claim it. I am not going to claim something "under pressure" because 1 guy made a case. I simply won't do that. But even if I did it, you guys are seriously overreacting that this is a 100% scumclaim. Dnu how long you are going to keep hammering on it.


It is a 90% scumclaim
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 20 2013 15:23 GMT
#386
D: meanie!
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 20 2013 15:23 GMT
#387
On August 21 2013 00:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 00:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rayn, talk about Koshi.
Why would he not do it as scum, and what do you like about his explanation?

This Koshi talking is somewhat boring. But I can answer that.
Because I don't call JK when 4 people are telling me to claim it. I am not going to claim something "under pressure" because 1 guy made a case. I simply won't do that. But even if I did it, you guys are seriously overreacting that this is a 100% scumclaim. Dnu how long you are going to keep hammering on it.

Oh but i can reference this.
Last game Koshi did not fakeclaim Jailkeeper when he was under serious pressure from BOTH town AND his scumbuddies.
table for two on a tv tray
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 20 2013 15:23 GMT
#388
It makes a certain amount of sense for a scum player to call for miller claims, and if none appear to make his own "miller" claim to pre-empt any damning cop checks and become "confirmed town", while at the same time if one appears then he looks like he helped town by giving town good advice or something.

Koshi could very easily be trying something similar.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 15:23 GMT
#389
On August 21 2013 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not care to explain my townreads unless they are in danger of getting lynched.
Now excuse me, i'm gonna make a case on WoS.

So WoS can refuse to explain and thats a bad thing, but you can and we are supposed to accept it?

No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 20 2013 15:24 GMT
#390
Also WoS is perfectly aware of this but has zero motivation of defending Koshi.
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 15:24 GMT
#391
Hey Sn0_Man, why is Koshi's claim a scumclaim?
No gg, No skill.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
August 20 2013 15:24 GMT
#392
On August 21 2013 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not care to explain my townreads unless they are in danger of getting lynched.
Now excuse me, i'm gonna make a case on WoS.

You are fucking out of your mind if you think koshi isn't getting lynched. Why you not talking Rayn? Townies love to talk. Maybe you aren't a townie. IN fact. Since when do townies flat out refuse to discuss their townreads that just claimed miller?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 15:25 GMT
#393
On August 21 2013 00:23 Koshi wrote:
D: meanie!

Let me rephrase it.

What you have to say about your claim in terms of the scum side of things is not relevent to me.
No gg, No skill.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 20 2013 15:27 GMT
#394
On August 21 2013 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also WoS is perfectly aware of this but has zero motivation of defending Koshi.

I already talked about it if you look at my filter.
I don't agree just because of that that he is town, but I am certainly not convinced of him being scum anymore.

Fair warning: I am finally moving back home today after 4 months with a teething child. My activity for the rest of today may be sporadic, especially since we have yet to get internet set up.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 20 2013 15:28 GMT
#395
On August 21 2013 00:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey Sn0_Man, why is Koshi's claim a scumclaim?

Because my last post also he explicitly stated any SAM should claim immediately without doing so himself. I don't believe any excuses like "I was baiting mafia into a fake claim" or "I didn't know" thats bull.
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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
August 20 2013 15:28 GMT
#396
On August 21 2013 00:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 00:20 Koshi wrote:
On August 21 2013 00:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rayn, talk about Koshi.
Why would he not do it as scum, and what do you like about his explanation?

This Koshi talking is somewhat boring. But I can answer that.
Because I don't call JK when 4 people are telling me to claim it. I am not going to claim something "under pressure" because 1 guy made a case. I simply won't do that. But even if I did it, you guys are seriously overreacting that this is a 100% scumclaim. Dnu how long you are going to keep hammering on it.

Oh but i can reference this.
Last game Koshi did not fakeclaim Jailkeeper when he was under serious pressure from BOTH town AND his scumbuddies.


A fake jailkeeper claim is FAR more complicated than a miller claim. Take it from someone who solo'd a scum win off the back of a fake Jailkeeper claim.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
August 20 2013 15:30 GMT
#397
anyway. Im going to bed. Laters.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 15:30 GMT
#398
So then he fakeclaimed as scum because he felt that on n0, 5 hours after the game started and 66 hours before we lynch someone, that the case by DP was undefendable.

I dunno Sn0_Man.
No gg, No skill.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 20 2013 15:31 GMT
#399
The more I think about it the more I am leaning town on koshi, he wouldnt make the claim under pressure as scum, and if he was scum why not until the end of the night if he was going to wait to claim is scum to make sure he wasnt going to get counter claimed. While his timing doesnt make much sense I dont think it makes much sense for scum either.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 20 2013 15:33 GMT
#400
It doesn't make a ton of sense as scum but it makes even less sense for him to play the way he did as town. It simply isn't a reasonable play for a townie to make. I can see where a scum player would believe it was the right play.
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