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Sotamursu
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland612 Posts
October 22 2011 16:40 GMT
#21
On October 23 2011 01:06 Candadar wrote:
However, I did not know that this kind of shit happened over cell phones.

Why are you trying to guilt peoeple with cell phones?
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 16:42:48
October 22 2011 16:41 GMT
#22
On October 23 2011 01:39 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 01:14 Probe1 wrote:
“Would we accept it, if it was happening here?”

We would and do. This is our nature.

do we really accept it or is there just not much we can do?

What's the difference?

There's obviously something we can do - it's just not something we want to do, nor are willing to do even if we wanted to.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
October 22 2011 16:41 GMT
#23
On October 23 2011 01:39 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 01:14 Probe1 wrote:
“Would we accept it, if it was happening here?”

We would and do. This is our nature.

do we really accept it or is there just not much we can do?

I don't know. It's a decision every person has to make on their own and there are 6bn slightly different answers. but for all the shiny things we've made in the last century, we're still the same fucked up creatures from the last epoch.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8072 Posts
October 22 2011 16:46 GMT
#24
On October 23 2011 01:33 aebriol wrote:
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On October 23 2011 01:21 tUUTZ wrote:
It wasn't shocking.

Agreed actually, I thought it would be worse. It was filmed in such a way that it pretty much looks like the opening scene of any revenge type of movie, nothing unwatchable about it except 'based on a true story'.


Yeah, I thought it was going to be all gore, but there is less blood in that movie than the last child movie I saw. Of course this is gruesome considering it happens every day, but thats just it. It happens every day, theres nothing shocking about it, and theres not a thing we can do about it..unless your name is Rambo.
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
October 22 2011 16:48 GMT
#25
On October 23 2011 01:46 Excludos wrote:
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On October 23 2011 01:33 aebriol wrote:
On October 23 2011 01:21 tUUTZ wrote:
It wasn't shocking.

Agreed actually, I thought it would be worse. It was filmed in such a way that it pretty much looks like the opening scene of any revenge type of movie, nothing unwatchable about it except 'based on a true story'.


Yeah, I thought it was going to be all gore, but there is less blood in that movie than the last child movie I saw. Of course this is gruesome considering it happens every day, but thats just it. It happens every day, theres nothing shocking about it, and theres not a thing we can do about it..unless your name is Rambo.

Colonizing worked out pretty shitty, so that's not a morally permissible option to even consider attempting, therefore it's up to Congo to figure it out really.

We can apply pressure of course, but as long as they are lacking a strong central functioning government and law enforcement agency, meh.
Fleshcut
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany592 Posts
October 22 2011 16:54 GMT
#26
Truly unwatchable... because the video kept lagging and lagging and I wasn't able to let it buffer or change quality -.-"

Even though I don't want this to happen to anyone I think it will occure again and again and petitiones can' t help. You need to fight these guys on another level with military force or something like that. I mean... Lets imagine the petition is a success and those raping guys in Congo really stop doing this because they can't earn money because some companies won't buy their minerals. Then they will find another way to earn money (or maybe sell those minerals to asian companies who flood our markets with cheap mobiles then) and since rape seems to be a legit tactic they will use it again... maybe just for fun then.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
October 22 2011 16:57 GMT
#27
Yeah, sadly these petitions wont help. Shitty situation but we can't do much.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 17:35:12
October 22 2011 17:03 GMT
#28
Okay here's what I think of the short film, I put it in spoiler-tags because it's a fucking insult to the victims.
+ Show Spoiler +
I thought I could watch the film because normally this kind of stuff doesn't "touch" me as I know it's just a fictional movie,
but this one is just HORSE SHIT.
I hate the creators, I hate the people that came up with this, and I want to punch them in the face.
THIS is the kind of stuff that make people think
"Oh rape doesn't happen that bad look at this movie it's SOOO unrealistic no way this is real."

It's the worst way to draw attention to something.
What do you think when you watch this movie? Do you think that you get the point? Do you now think that you want to help people and that this is a bad thing?
If you did before, yes, you probably still do, but if you had no intention doing that before or if you weren't aware of this now everything you think is "wow that movie is so disgusting".

To hell with the creators of this short film.


The real points made in this video are the texts.
First of all, I think the question "Would this be accepted here?" is not necessary, as it already is accepted.
Often times rape victims are treated like it was their own fault and rapist get low punishments because of that, in Germany we have cases where even people get low punishments because of their young age and this kind of bullshit.
When it comes to sex crimes, rape etc our society was, is and will always be fucked up.

It's not a thing that only happens "over there", it's happening everywhere and every second. THIS is what people should really look for, but it's pretty hard to change the mindset of the whole world.
It's not worse to rape for minerals, rape is always the same level of horseshit. You can't say "oh it's worse because they do it for the cell phones", no, it's just the same level of bad, actually thats an understatement, it's some of the worst things you can do. It's never "more okay" to do it in any situation and it always deserve the same punishment.
And another problem is the double standard in the society, because women are also rapists, but it's funny for other people, especially for other women.

The problem with rape doesn't begin with uncontrollable sex drive or fucked up minds, it begins with how fucked up our society is when it comes to hurting other people and hurting their privacy. We have double standards about nearly everything and we treat perpetrators better than the victims, we are scared to stand up for the good because people might judge us for that(look at the chinese case where the women that cared about the child that nobody cared about, people now say that she did it only for the fame and now she's being scared away from her home.).

In my opinion, if you really want to stop rape, and as a rational human being that is something you want to do, you have to change the societies mindset, way of judging and usage of brain.

Sorry about my harsh language, but I'm still pissed of at this horrible short film.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
October 22 2011 17:46 GMT
#29
On October 23 2011 01:57 Grettin wrote:
Yeah, sadly these petitions wont help. Shitty situation but we can't do much.

The reason for such a terrifying video (and let's face it, if we were average people and not desensitized by internet use, it would be terrifying.) is because nobody looks past their own nose , especially to find trouble.

We can do much. We could stop it. but will we?

I don't see protests. I don't see angry people shouting at politicians to be heard..

It's just as much our fault for letting evil walk by as it is those that perpetrate it. As also said in a post above me- the consequences of rape even in first world countries are a joke.

Growing up I was against the death penalty. Now I think Starcraft neural resocialization is too kind. burn the fucks to the ground. Violence begets violence; it's the only way the world works once you go to the Congo.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
October 22 2011 17:50 GMT
#30
Holy crap I don't think I've seen stuff as shocking as this. Signed the petition.

This isn't a hollywood movie just because it's filmed in a fancy way doesn't makes it unrealistic.

I feel ashamed for owning a phone now.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
October 22 2011 18:11 GMT
#31
Why. If it wasn't a phone it'd be the precious metals in your keyboard or the diamond ring on your finger or the clothes that you're wearing.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 22 2011 18:14 GMT
#32
How long is the movie? I want to know if I can eat and watch it, lol...
Life?
Donnie_Par
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada72 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 18:22:20
October 22 2011 18:18 GMT
#33
i found that easy to masturbate to

i've seen worse at the movie theatre

User was temp banned for this post.
darnaldo never end
iStarKraft
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom79 Posts
October 22 2011 18:20 GMT
#34
Holy fuck. That really was Unwatchable for me. I am no stranger to the internet, so I thought I would be able to watch it, no problem, and take from it the message that it was meant to give. Well, I bloody got the message alright, but I couldn't watch all of the film. Jesus christ. That is fucked up. O_O
"So yeah... you've got to scout, or you'll get raped." - XaoZ
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 22 2011 18:22 GMT
#35
Ehh, if you already know this goes on, the movie is watchable. I thought it was going to be worse though from what the OP made it seem.
Life?
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
October 22 2011 18:23 GMT
#36
On October 23 2011 03:14 ShoCkeyy wrote:
How long is the movie? I want to know if I can eat and watch it, lol...

On October 23 2011 01:06 Candadar wrote:

...
Going to warn you. It has rape, it has killing, it has blood, and it's very adult. There is no shock moment in it, but it only uses 6 minutes to draw out your emotion....

Definitely signed the petition.

The OP is accurate.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
HoMM
Profile Joined July 2010
Estonia635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 18:32:57
October 22 2011 18:31 GMT
#37
Watched the video, I enjoyed it rather than being disgusted by it. (I'm an internet veteran so I've seen worse)

I don't support the petition though, I'd rather support another way to solve this if there is one.
Not using minerals gotten from countries at war = phones get more expensive.
Obviously I don't support rape but the correlation is too vague and I don't think technology companies are to blame for this.

+ Show Spoiler +
Would I accept it if this was going on in my own country? No, definitely not. Why? It's normal for humans to higher value the people around them.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 22 2011 18:32 GMT
#38
On October 23 2011 03:23 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 03:14 ShoCkeyy wrote:
How long is the movie? I want to know if I can eat and watch it, lol...

Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 01:06 Candadar wrote:

...
Going to warn you. It has rape, it has killing, it has blood, and it's very adult. There is no shock moment in it, but it only uses 6 minutes to draw out your emotion....

Definitely signed the petition.

The OP is accurate.


Errr, must of missed that... Could of sworn I didn't see how long it was lol -_-;;;
Life?
Lamphead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada241 Posts
October 22 2011 18:33 GMT
#39
the difference between this movie and being in Congo is that this could never happen in England..if we had world parity the billion people on this earth above poverty would have to give to the 8 billion in poverty..fat chance of that happening. Help who you can, but it's never going to be "equal" for everyone.
We didn't lose the game. We just ran out of time. - Vince Lombardi
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
October 22 2011 19:24 GMT
#40
That's the point Lamphead. They're transposing the events that are commonplace (except without helicopters) in Congo into a first world country.

It's not about parity or saving the entire world. We just need to stop ignoring Africa, specifically this time Congo, and letting mass murder, torture and genocides pass by.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
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