EPTOn October 23 2011 01:06 Candadar wrote:
However, I did not know that this kind of shit happened over cell phones.
However, I did not know that this kind of shit happened over cell phones.
Why are you trying to guilt peoeple with cell phones?
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Sotamursu
Finland612 Posts
Why are you trying to guilt peoeple with cell phones? | ||
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aebriol
Norway2066 Posts
On October 23 2011 01:39 teddyoojo wrote: do we really accept it or is there just not much we can do? What's the difference? There's obviously something we can do - it's just not something we want to do, nor are willing to do even if we wanted to. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On October 23 2011 01:39 teddyoojo wrote: do we really accept it or is there just not much we can do? I don't know. It's a decision every person has to make on their own and there are 6bn slightly different answers. but for all the shiny things we've made in the last century, we're still the same fucked up creatures from the last epoch. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8073 Posts
On October 23 2011 01:33 aebriol wrote: Agreed actually, I thought it would be worse. It was filmed in such a way that it pretty much looks like the opening scene of any revenge type of movie, nothing unwatchable about it except 'based on a true story'. Yeah, I thought it was going to be all gore, but there is less blood in that movie than the last child movie I saw. Of course this is gruesome considering it happens every day, but thats just it. It happens every day, theres nothing shocking about it, and theres not a thing we can do about it..unless your name is Rambo. | ||
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aebriol
Norway2066 Posts
On October 23 2011 01:46 Excludos wrote: Yeah, I thought it was going to be all gore, but there is less blood in that movie than the last child movie I saw. Of course this is gruesome considering it happens every day, but thats just it. It happens every day, theres nothing shocking about it, and theres not a thing we can do about it..unless your name is Rambo. Colonizing worked out pretty shitty, so that's not a morally permissible option to even consider attempting, therefore it's up to Congo to figure it out really. We can apply pressure of course, but as long as they are lacking a strong central functioning government and law enforcement agency, meh. | ||
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Fleshcut
Germany592 Posts
Even though I don't want this to happen to anyone I think it will occure again and again and petitiones can' t help. You need to fight these guys on another level with military force or something like that. I mean... Lets imagine the petition is a success and those raping guys in Congo really stop doing this because they can't earn money because some companies won't buy their minerals. Then they will find another way to earn money (or maybe sell those minerals to asian companies who flood our markets with cheap mobiles then) and since rape seems to be a legit tactic they will use it again... maybe just for fun then. | ||
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Grettin
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I thought I could watch the film because normally this kind of stuff doesn't "touch" me as I know it's just a fictional movie, but this one is just HORSE SHIT. I hate the creators, I hate the people that came up with this, and I want to punch them in the face. THIS is the kind of stuff that make people think "Oh rape doesn't happen that bad look at this movie it's SOOO unrealistic no way this is real." It's the worst way to draw attention to something. What do you think when you watch this movie? Do you think that you get the point? Do you now think that you want to help people and that this is a bad thing? If you did before, yes, you probably still do, but if you had no intention doing that before or if you weren't aware of this now everything you think is "wow that movie is so disgusting". To hell with the creators of this short film. The real points made in this video are the texts. First of all, I think the question "Would this be accepted here?" is not necessary, as it already is accepted. Often times rape victims are treated like it was their own fault and rapist get low punishments because of that, in Germany we have cases where even people get low punishments because of their young age and this kind of bullshit. When it comes to sex crimes, rape etc our society was, is and will always be fucked up. It's not a thing that only happens "over there", it's happening everywhere and every second. THIS is what people should really look for, but it's pretty hard to change the mindset of the whole world. It's not worse to rape for minerals, rape is always the same level of horseshit. You can't say "oh it's worse because they do it for the cell phones", no, it's just the same level of bad, actually thats an understatement, it's some of the worst things you can do. It's never "more okay" to do it in any situation and it always deserve the same punishment. And another problem is the double standard in the society, because women are also rapists, but it's funny for other people, especially for other women. The problem with rape doesn't begin with uncontrollable sex drive or fucked up minds, it begins with how fucked up our society is when it comes to hurting other people and hurting their privacy. We have double standards about nearly everything and we treat perpetrators better than the victims, we are scared to stand up for the good because people might judge us for that(look at the chinese case where the women that cared about the child that nobody cared about, people now say that she did it only for the fame and now she's being scared away from her home.). In my opinion, if you really want to stop rape, and as a rational human being that is something you want to do, you have to change the societies mindset, way of judging and usage of brain. Sorry about my harsh language, but I'm still pissed of at this horrible short film. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On October 23 2011 01:57 Grettin wrote: Yeah, sadly these petitions wont help. Shitty situation but we can't do much. The reason for such a terrifying video (and let's face it, if we were average people and not desensitized by internet use, it would be terrifying.) is because nobody looks past their own nose , especially to find trouble. We can do much. We could stop it. but will we? I don't see protests. I don't see angry people shouting at politicians to be heard.. It's just as much our fault for letting evil walk by as it is those that perpetrate it. As also said in a post above me- the consequences of rape even in first world countries are a joke. Growing up I was against the death penalty. Now I think Starcraft neural resocialization is too kind. burn the fucks to the ground. Violence begets violence; it's the only way the world works once you go to the Congo. | ||
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Bojas
Netherlands2397 Posts
This isn't a hollywood movie just because it's filmed in a fancy way doesn't makes it unrealistic. I feel ashamed for owning a phone now. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
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Donnie_Par
Canada72 Posts
i've seen worse at the movie theatre User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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iStarKraft
United Kingdom79 Posts
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On October 23 2011 03:14 ShoCkeyy wrote: How long is the movie? I want to know if I can eat and watch it, lol... On October 23 2011 01:06 Candadar wrote: ... Going to warn you. It has rape, it has killing, it has blood, and it's very adult. There is no shock moment in it, but it only uses 6 minutes to draw out your emotion.... Definitely signed the petition. The OP is accurate. | ||
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HoMM
Estonia635 Posts
I don't support the petition though, I'd rather support another way to solve this if there is one. Not using minerals gotten from countries at war = phones get more expensive. Obviously I don't support rape but the correlation is too vague and I don't think technology companies are to blame for this. + Show Spoiler + Would I accept it if this was going on in my own country? No, definitely not. Why? It's normal for humans to higher value the people around them. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
Errr, must of missed that... Could of sworn I didn't see how long it was lol -_-;;; | ||
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Lamphead
Canada241 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
It's not about parity or saving the entire world. We just need to stop ignoring Africa, specifically this time Congo, and letting mass murder, torture and genocides pass by. | ||
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