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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On September 01 2012 08:27 Hapahauli wrote: And can we cut out the shit about Palmar? Exactly what does this do to catch scum? Grow a pair and vote him or don't. Oh whoops. ##unvote ##vote: Palmar Actively lurking. Trolling. Thinking he's better than us. Screws off if you're town I'm tunneling the shit out of you every game I play with you until you change. | ||
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Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
On September 01 2012 08:27 MrZentor wrote: No. If somebody acts like mafia, they get lynched. I'm not going to delay the lynching of a mafia, just because you're afraid of lynching a veteran. Zentor, where have you been all day? Post a case or else I'm going to push for a vigi hit/D2 lynch on you. Also read my case on Ghost. Everyone get moving and read that case. | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
He's pretending as if he's being a really lazy town. It's a terrible facade and one that only a mafia would create. In this case, the troll is mafia. | ||
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Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
On September 01 2012 08:31 Risen wrote: Oh whoops. ##unvote ##vote: Palmar Actively lurking. Trolling. Thinking he's better than us. Screws off if you're town I'm tunneling the shit out of you every game I play with you until you change. Risen: if Palmar flips town, and everyone votes him, exactly what do we learn from that lynch? | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
I posted a case. + Show Spoiler + Sort of. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On September 01 2012 08:32 Shady Sands wrote: Risen: if Palmar flips town, and everyone votes him, exactly what do we learn from that lynch? We all learn not to be shitheads day 1. | ||
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BlackMamba24
United States277 Posts
On September 01 2012 08:28 Risen wrote: Ok I'm done. Nothing ever changes in these games because you all just let shitty play happeen. Meta shift from Risen inc. I'm going to start trolling and then once in a while I'll post an awesome case so I get supported by anecdote. If you hate Palmar that much stop playing in games where he /ins and stop acting like a bitch. You should be modkilled for this martyr shit. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On September 01 2012 08:34 BlackMamba24 wrote: If you hate Palmar that much stop playing in games where he /ins and stop acting like a bitch. You should be modkilled for this martyr shit. Stop supporting bad play 2012. A campaign brought to you by Risen. | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
On September 01 2012 08:30 Shady Sands wrote: MMT: you posted a little bit about how bad the cases on you were. I used what you posted and expanded it on Ghost. Can you please read that case? I did read the case and posted my thoughts on it. It is pretty much the same as I have for my notes on ghost. The problem is I think this about ghost every game. It makes me uneasy that my vote is on you when you are having the same thought process as me, the problem is you coulda easily been in scum QT and someone told you to make a solid unique case. Who would your number 2 scum read be? Also, I can't post much now, having a few drinks with friends. But if it comes down to it I will be switching my vote to save myself to the 2nd most votes, because from my perspective im 100% confirmed town, so lynching anyone other than myself has a way better chance of catchng a scum. | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
For reference, MMToss' defense So far, nothing has convinced me to take my vote off of MMToss. His defense against the people voting him amounted to "the people voting for me are lazy/stupid, oh and here's someone I think is scum". I really can't see a town player posting his defense in such a way. By the way, Shady's not scum. See Newbie Mini Mafia XXV. He's not acting like that in this game at all. | ||
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Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On September 01 2012 08:27 Shady Sands wrote: Hiro, now that I've done what you asked me to and responded to MT, what is your read on Ghost? Nothing strong. The only thing that makes me think he's scum is that he's never once expressed why he's voting for Mementoss, only that he wants to lynch him. The other stuff you talked about doesn't strike me as alignment-indicative. | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
On September 01 2012 08:36 ghost_403 wrote: Alright, let's see what happened while I was gone. For reference, MMToss' defense So far, nothing has convinced me to take my vote off of MMToss. His defense against the people voting him amounted to "the people voting for me are lazy/stupid, oh and here's someone I think is scum". I really can't see a town player posting his defense in such a way. By the way, Shady's not scum. See Newbie Mini Mafia XXV. He's not acting like that in this game at all. you actually never mentioned why you thought I was scum | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363625¤tpage=15#297 If you think this counts as "jumping on you for lurking" - I don't even know what to say. Either you're just not reading, or you're mafia, or both. @ShadySands - Read your case on ghost, and tbh I still read him as null. Him being inconsistent and whatever isn't necessarily scummy. His sudden switch from indecisiveness to voting for mementoss actually reads as slightly townie to me. It would be really easy for him to avoid that contradiction (as mafia) and yet he didn't. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On September 01 2012 07:04 Mementoss wrote: "In the middle of this post, Mementoss says that he voted for Mr. Zentor in order to get him to post something useful, indicating that he has no clear view of Mr. Zentor's alignment. However, right after that Mementoss accuses Hapahauli of soft/hard defending Mr. Zentor and being his scumbuddy. Not only does this not make any sense, as the only posts that Hapahuli has made about Zentor are asking Mementoss why he voted for him, but Mementoss displays a clear disconnect in the way that he perceives Zentor (on one hand being someone he needs to see more from, on the other hand as a scumbuddy)." To answer HiroPro. I occasionally say aggressive statements like this for people I'm null for to get some sort of reaction out of them and can make another opinion on them based on how they react. Sometimes it's been the case that people on the same scum team avoid communication in the thread or joke around with each other in the thread to lessen the distance between them. "Then... you vote Mr.Zentor for lurking? What?" This is what I considered to be a soft defense, trying to take the heat off him from that moment. "What does voting MrZentor even do, when you find other people suspicious?" Then implying that I am voting him for no reason and downplaying it, is what I considered a harder defense. As obviously I had a reason for doing it, and explaining it basically takes away all effectiveness of the action. I hope that clears it up to you hiro. | ||
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BlackMamba24
United States277 Posts
On September 01 2012 08:38 Shady Sands wrote: DrH can you please use one account while posting? Makes digging through your filter unnecessarily difficult when you swtich back and forth between your alt and your main acct Sorry, I hit flood limits a lot with this account because it is new and I'm very very impatient which is why I tend to spam a lot in games. it takes a lot of effort for me to be able to withhold from posting even when it isn't helpful. | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
On September 01 2012 08:39 ghost_403 wrote: @MrZentor: Are you really voting for Palmar just because his first post in the thread is him claiming that he's a VT, or you voting him because he's trolling? Both. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
I think I've seen enough. Responses/emotional-defense seem townie to me. Attitudes to his previous case also seem townie enough. TBH, I'm tempted to lynch Palmar on the basis that he actually gave a shit as town in Normal Mini III. | ||
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BlackMamba24
United States277 Posts
On September 01 2012 08:40 Hapahauli wrote: @BM24 - At what point in the last 5 pages did I attack you for the policy junk? I didn't. I've made it clear what I'm attacking you for and you're failure to read is mindblowing. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363625¤tpage=15#297 If you think this counts as "jumping on you for lurking" - I don't even know what to say. Either you're just not reading, or you're mafia, or both. @ShadySands - Read your case on ghost, and tbh I still read him as null. Him being inconsistent and whatever isn't necessarily scummy. His sudden switch from indecisiveness to voting for mementoss actually reads as slightly townie to me. It would be really easy for him to avoid that contradiction (as mafia) and yet he didn't. You're right, I actually did misread that. Anyway, there's nothing scummy about my case and it's clear you're just really mad that I voted for you early on so get over it and play the game. If you really think I'm scum stop pointlessly bickering with me. I'm not even putting in enough effort to read every sentence in your posts so it's not gonna go anywhere. Rally the troops, try to get me lynched, or shut up about my "case". | ||
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