EPTTL Mafia XLVIII - Page 19
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annul
United States2841 Posts
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
he made this post On November 26 2011 10:44 Soap wrote: Ugh, there's so little information and scum are free to bury any tell under piles of nonsense and fingerpointing, as I'm sure it's being done. This will be most valuable in retrospective and I feel town should simulate a close vote to entice mafia to root for their candidate(s), but Palmer flew away in the popularity contest. So I'm protest voting for sinani206. on page 68 of xlvii, and he was town. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
My personal thoughts on the events that have transpired thus far: - Discussion of randomly generating a lynch target. ABSOLUTELY NOT! Even if each and every Town player agrees and draws a 'random' number, there's no way that the mafia will choose a 'random' number and allow one of their own to go down. This idea doesn't even make sense. - prplhz 'Blueclaiming'? When I read and re-read that post it seemed to me that his intention was to say that we shouldn't sit around and rely on Blues to win the game. So that in itself is not suspicious. We should note, however, that his intention is to make it clear that he's Town. - Zodiac lists: good or not? This shouldn't even be considered. 1) We don't know the alignment of the 'creator' of the list. 2) Mafia can purposely avoid the killing from the list and that will make Town point fingers and we'll be massacred day and night. - Lynch Mafia > Lynch Bad Town > No Lynch > Lynch Town Lurker > Lynch Good Town These are my quick thoughts from my first readthrough. I am going to do a more complete and finetuned read after the NASL finals are over. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
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Refallen
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Refallen
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
The reason that is a bad thing to do is it doesn't help town players to get a read on you. Read some posts and just make a call on how they make you feel or something. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On December 05 2011 14:30 Refallen wrote: I haven't been "jumping on easy votes" at all, I didn't agree with Palmar/Corrupt and said so, and I also laid out my reasoning why I thought Soap was scum. Obviously, I wasn't aware of prior metagame history which makes me think that he isn't so scummy anymore. On December 05 2011 13:26 Refallen wrote: Yeah uh, let's not vote people for no reason you didn't lay out your reasoning. mighty defensive after a little suspicion aren't you? | ||
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Refallen
452 Posts
On December 05 2011 13:47 Refallen wrote: not only that but the claim that there has been nothing in the past 17 pages to analyze suggests that he is more likely scum than town. I have a hard time believing that any townie would say they found nothing special in the past 17 pages, and even if they did, they would more likely be trying to generate discussion by asking questions rather than throwing out a random vote to someone who is town and distracting everyone from it. (Also I find it interesting that the other person who has called out Drazerk is VE, who I think to be slightly suspicious as well) ^^ my reasoning And haha I think I only seem defensive because the thread is moving soooooooooooo slowly and I'm waiting for the NASL finals to finish | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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Refallen
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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Refallen
452 Posts
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Refallen
452 Posts
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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Refallen
452 Posts
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
Before this debate about Soap's post and vote on Drazerk turns into an easily manipulated bandwagon, I urge people to consider the following point: Soap had very little pressure being applied to him at the time. It wasn't as though he was the focus of an intense debate and then subsequently slipped up. As mafia, he had very little reason to post at that moment in time except to establish a first 'real' post. We should not conclude based on that post ALONE that he must be mafia. We can apply direct pressure to Soap and see how things develop. Soap: There have been plenty of topics discussed so far. Do some legwork and read through the game again. What we require from you are your opinions and ideas. Either comment on what was said thus far or pick a few players and tell us what you think of them. My suggestion? Tell me what you think about Risen and Refallen. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
You said that "Sometimes it's better doing nothing than something." what makes you think that it is better to do nothing than it is to do something in the situation we are in right now? Do you think, right now, that no-lynch is a better option than lynching somebody? If you had to lynch somebody right now who would it be and why? What kind of information do you think we'd have day2 that we wouldn't have day1 if we didn't lynch? Do you think the only thing to gain from a lynch is a flip and a vote list? Why don't you think you can read any of us? Is it because you don't know how we usually play or is it because you haven't played mafia for a while and you don't feel confident about your abilities right now? You also never answered my question; when you played before, did town often rely on power roles instead of analysis? | ||
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Corrupt
Bulgaria1312 Posts
On December 05 2011 09:45 annul wrote: still waiting for palmar to return from sleepland before judging further. but right now it looks like a bunch of nothing. ask me near the end of day 1 what i think if you are still curious because [something i wont mention to not give people ideas] might happen and if it does, it probably will change my mind. but for now it all seems ok to me. hm, you know, i answer this question in order... so when i look at corrupt's filter and i see this gem, i begin to wonder maybe i am wrong above about redff: note nowhere did corrupt say he was ONLY suspicious of prplhz. he said he was suspicious of him. perfectly consistent with his first post. redff then severely mischaracterizes what corrupt says. interesting. its corrupts first game and he is so noob that he thinks redff nailed him or that he did something wrong, when the only thing he did wrong was not attack redff for fallacious argumentation. of course pure noobs can be red too but i mean right now he just looks like a pure noob acting like a pure noob. I didn't really thought that my very first post would draw that much attention. To be honest, I didn't had THAT many suspiciouns in mind. You know, first game and all.. the start sure was exciting for me, especialy with those 2 or 3 early cases that went on. The reason I didn't made an actual case about any of the people I got involved with was fear of making a very wrong decision about them in such early stage of the game. (Being bold and useless once again..) @vaderseven You said you were familiar with my posting "Style". I don't have any style man, I'm only trying to get into the game and I'm having a hard time establishing. Like I said, I'll be trying to improve as fast as I can. Sorry for looking like scum in peoples eyes.. it's not easy being Corrupt. On December 05 2011 12:36 TruthBringer wrote: Okay, prplhz "voted" for me in this thread. He never voted for me in the voting thread even though I reminded him to in this thread. (See page 9). The way I see it is this . . . he leaves less evidence behind if he doesn't vote for me in the actual voting thread. The voting thread will end up being fairly short, easy to read through. Whereas this thread is already becoming a bear. He was hoping to start a tidal wave against me and it didn't work out, and so he never actually voted for me in the voting thread. He doesn't want to come off as a frequent vote changer, etc. I think it is pretty scummy that he would so quickly vote for me in this thread, but not follow-up on it in the voting thread even after I reminded him to. Okey, I'm not sure how truly important day1 lynching is and I can't decide if a no lynch is good for the mafia or bad.. but here's what I think about that hint purplehaze gave about being blue (on Page 9). Like if you're one of the bad guys, isn't the best way to cover yourself up to post something like that and imply to be one of the good guys? The thing that he hasn't put his vote in the voting thread is also bothering me, altho the reason for this could be that purplehaze indeed is one of the good guys and he is afraid to pick up on TruthBringer cuz it's very possible they are on the same side. | ||
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