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redFF
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redFF
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On November 04 2011 09:49 deconduo wrote: At my first quick readthrough of the thread I got a bad vibe from you. All the posts I spotted were one-liner non-contributions that mostly amounted to spam. However upon closer inspection this post and this post were pretty good, so maybe you aren't mafia. Apart from Sandroba, who do you think is scummy? I don't like RebirthOfLegend and Kurumi. They have done absolutely nothing this game and then Kurumi shows up with a pro-mafia game and goes all Chezinu (am I using it right?). I mean there is nothing redeeming about that team, I have played with both of them before and they are capable of so much more. Apart from Sandroba, who do you think is scummy? | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On November 04 2011 10:10 prplhz wrote: I don't like RebirthOfLegend and Kurumi. They have done absolutely nothing this game and then Kurumi shows up with a pro-mafia game and goes all Chezinu (am I using it right?). I mean there is nothing redeeming about that team, I have played with both of them before and they are capable of so much more. Apart from Sandroba, who do you think is scummy? Went through redFF's posts, they are all one liners. Checked who his partner is. Went through kitaman's posts. Also composed mostly of one liners coupled with some filler number crunching. I particularly liked this post: On November 03 2011 23:05 kitaman27 wrote: Was there a reason you wanted to wait rather than contribute now? Also, was there a reason you wanted us to know you were waiting? I'm also looking forward to hearing from Radfield. I still don't forgive him for his sneaky disappearance during Salem. Team Nipple, Team Switzerland and Team SS aren't pulling their weight yet. In a mini game where we only have 2 mislynches until we are at LYLO, we can't afford a slow start, especially with the threat of not being able to reach a majority. Calls out teams for not pulling their weight when neither he nor redFF had done ANYTHING at that point. Prime scum team, probably worthy of a vote. I want to here what sandroba has to say first though, still haven't gotten in contact with him yet. Won't be able to until tomorrow either as I'm off to bed now. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On November 04 2011 10:21 deconduo wrote: Prime scum team, probably worthy of a vote. I want to here what sandroba has to say first though, still haven't gotten in contact with him yet. Won't be able to until tomorrow either as I'm off to bed now. Oh prime scum team? Funny, you haven't pointed out anything that was actually scummy. At this point, I believe the scum team is contained in this set of players. Ideally I'd like to be able to narrow it down as more people start to post, but RoL, Kurumi, Crofty, iGrok, and Katzeleute all need to give us more to work with. 1. sandroba & Sevryn Deconduo - TEAM SS 3. Radfield & wherebugsgo - TEAM CHEZINU 4. Kurumi & RebirthOfLeGenD - TEAM NIPPLE 5. Crofty & Gmarshal - TEAM LIQUID 7. chaoser & hyshes - TEAM EDWARD 8. iGrok & Katzeleute - TEAM SWITZERLAND | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On November 04 2011 09:59 hyshes wrote: @wbg: I did not have to feeling i had to add anything on what my teammate said. That's why i lack in posting. btw, for someone who is calling out that someone else is in panic, you also give kinda a panic reaction. any chance you explain why you are so afraid that your words are misunderstanded? Nah, I'm not afraid that I'm being misunderstood. I'm just really annoyed with working with people who can't read. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On November 04 2011 10:52 kitaman27 wrote: Oh prime scum team? Funny, you haven't pointed out anything that was actually scummy. At this point, I believe the scum team is contained in this set of players. Ideally I'd like to be able to narrow it down as more people start to post, but RoL, Kurumi, Crofty, iGrok, and Katzeleute all need to give us more to work with. 1. sandroba & Sevryn Deconduo - TEAM SS 3. Radfield & wherebugsgo - TEAM CHEZINU 4. Kurumi & RebirthOfLeGenD - TEAM NIPPLE 5. Crofty & Gmarshal - TEAM LIQUID 7. chaoser & hyshes - TEAM EDWARD 8. iGrok & Katzeleute - TEAM SWITZERLAND lol @ this, kita names 2/3 of the player base as being possible scum and then doesn't explain why he conveniently excludes Forumite+prpl and Greymist+super. I mean, really, what is your point? Why are prpl+forumite not possible scum? Or Grey+super? For all we know, you could be scum. This "information" you provide is utterly useless. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On November 04 2011 09:11 Forumite wrote: Sure, you can pick this lynch, I´ll pick the next one  Not only he shows that he is not concerned about who we lynch today, but also shows a certainty that he will be around longer. Why exactly do you believe they are town kita? Also my post about no lynch (despite me agreeing with it) was a method to get reads from people. It's a controversial issue and I would expect a strong reaction from townies regarding that topic, but some consideration aswell. Some players raised good points most of which I agree with and some where impartial or aloof. Obviously I'm aware that I would become easy lynch bait for scum to pile on, but that doesn't bother me as I'm sure there are inteligent players here. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On November 04 2011 11:08 wherebugsgo wrote: lol @ this, kita names 2/3 of the player base as being possible scum and then doesn't explain why he conveniently excludes Forumite+prpl and Greymist+super. I mean, really, what is your point? Why are prpl+forumite not possible scum? Or Grey+super? For all we know, you could be scum. This "information" you provide is utterly useless. hes just giving his reads. its funny that this is the first time you've attacked us and its just after decon fos'd us. scum. ##unvote ##Vote wherebugsgo | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On November 04 2011 11:23 redFF wrote: hes just giving his reads. its funny that this is the first time you've attacked us and its just after decon fos'd us. scum. ##unvote ##Vote wherebugsgo LOL | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On November 04 2011 11:08 wherebugsgo wrote: lol @ this, kita names 2/3 of the player base as being possible scum and then doesn't explain why he conveniently excludes Forumite+prpl and Greymist+super. They weren't convenient exclusions...I'm telling you guys which teams I wouldn't consider voting for at this point. We're trying to move towards a team we can agree to reach majority on, no? On November 04 2011 11:08 wherebugsgo wrote: I mean, really, what is your point? Why are prpl+forumite not possible scum? Or Grey+super? supersoft because he shows he cares who is lynched on day one. He is sharing his opinion and playing transparently. prpl because between all the one liners, he has a similar thought process as myself. The things he is questioning are things I also feel relevant. On November 04 2011 11:08 wherebugsgo wrote: For all we know, you could be scum. This "information" you provide is utterly useless. I'm providing my opinion. Use it however you wish. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On November 04 2011 11:10 sandroba wrote: I agree with you that supersoft is likely town, but I'm interested in your reasoning for forumite/prplhz. This particular post from forumite is pretty scummy to me: Not only he shows that he is not concerned about who we lynch today, but also shows a certainty that he will be around longer. Why exactly do you believe they are town kita? It also shows he is not concerned about playing safe. It supports the idea of a connection between two players, rather than a team of four. I'm not totally solid on the forumite half of the team, but there are others I'd rather see lynched day one. On November 04 2011 11:10 sandroba wrote: Also my post about no lynch (despite me agreeing with it) was a method to get reads from people. It's a controversial issue and I would expect a strong reaction from townies regarding that topic, but some consideration aswell. Some players raised good points most of which I agree with and some where impartial or aloof. Obviously I'm aware that I would become easy lynch bait for scum to pile on, but that doesn't bother me as I'm sure there are inteligent players here. Have those "good points" swayed your opinions to not aim for a mislynch? What conclusions have you come to based upon the responses? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On November 04 2011 11:25 kitaman27 wrote: They weren't convenient exclusions...I'm telling you guys which teams I wouldn't consider voting for at this point. We're trying to move towards a team we can agree to reach majority on, no? supersoft because he shows he cares who is lynched on day one. He is sharing his opinion and playing transparently. prpl because between all the one liners, he has a similar thought process as myself. The things he is questioning are things I also feel relevant. I'm providing my opinion. Use it however you wish. This is SO much better than red. Thank you. I agree with you on super+GreyMist. They haven't done anything yet to suggest that they are scummy. Greymist hasn't done much, but super on the other hand seems to be playing to his standard town meta. I don't really know what to think of prpl right now, but I'd warn you that simply having the same thought process as someone else doesn't make them more likely to be town. I'm not really digging your logic here. At any rate, there are some issues we need to deal with right now, as soon as possible. At the moment, it seems like the player base is split between lynching day 1 and going for a no-lynch. I think it's important, though, that we begin the process of consolidation so that we can have two or three viable lynch candidates by tomorrow. If, by that time, we are still unclear about who to lynch, we can use the no-lynch as our last resort. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On November 04 2011 11:33 kitaman27 wrote: Have those "good points" swayed your opinions to not aim for a mislynch? What conclusions have you come to based upon the responses? Hold the presses LOL WTF | ||
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wherebugsgo
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Forumite
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Let me show you some relevant posts:+ Show Spoiler + It´s actually the only relevant posts since the game started, and there´s 2 of them... On November 04 2011 02:31 Kurumi wrote: Kurufesto It's good to be back, guys. + Show Spoiler + On November 03 2011 07:45 GMarshal wrote: Cool, a game of mafia ![[image loading]](http://images2.layoutsparks.com/1/186616/face-the-reaper-skull-31000.jpg) It's traditional at this point to post a picture of the reaper So, Iets do this thing. First thing first As usual there is no excuse for lurking, don't do it and you won't have me lobbing for your lynch. Seriously, 2 players per team should mean a more than decent level of activity, you aren't going to get away with 2~3 posts per cycle unless they are an outstanding, wall of text, analytical set of three posts. So post, transparency and information means we have a greater chance of success. Second thing (this should *not* be a point of discussion, as what I am about to talk about is too general for us to really talk about, I just wanted to make sure it was said). Because there are no vigilantes, if we have a jailkeeper he should be using his protect/roleblock offensively, that is "protecting" scum in an attempt to roleblock the kill, rather than going after the most outspoken townies and possibly roleblocking a power role. This style should encourage activity (scum no longer want to risk being lurkers if it might make their kill fail) and with the possibility of a medic in play scum still cannot afford to shoot the top players. Other than that there isn't that much to say on the setup until we get later in the day and can talk about dt lists and such. My lurker policy remains the same as always, and yeah, that's about it. I am against lynching lurkers. First, the setup is really small, so we should delay the game and make it as long as we could. Scum, unless terrible or really overloaded with RL stuff (they shouldn't join game then, but hey it happens) won't lurk. Remember, scum are those MIDDLE guys, not so active or inactive to draw attention. "But it sounds so cool Kurumi... go get them Yourself, let me derp my way to LYLO" Yeah I know Towns on TL are quite damn lazy and with all the info coming out at the beginning of the game, quoting guides by either side and stuff like that and forget all of it after D1 lynch but.. I am not going to forget, I wish to play my best this game. "But Kurumi, Mafia has a Role Cop!" With 1 blue, they will have hard time finding Team with it. With 2 blues, we will get enough protection/information to retaliate strong enough. Remember, the more time Parity Cop gets, the stronger we are, because he can slowly confirm people. I think we shouldn't worry about Mafia Role Cop too much. Lurker lynch is a bad idea. We either no-lynch or lynch the scummiest fuckers out there. With a mislynch, Mafia ALREADY got their KP per cycle! If we don't get a good protect/block or we just don't have roles for it, 2 people are dead by Day 2. Meanwhile, Mafia Role Cop has checked one of the roles. That means, 3 out of 7 people roles are known to Mafia, another lynch and it's 4 out of 5, if the (only one) blue survived to this time, he will be killed during the night, no matter the lynch result. Summary: Lurker lynch is a terrible idea, Mafia rarely lurk without any special plan. No lynch does not put us behind: Our blue will survive longer this way. Lynch = scummiest person, remember! Try to keep Your post readable... I am trying, so You should too. On November 04 2011 02:49 Kurumi wrote: Lurker lynching is often an excuse not to lynch someone, just add "I dunno, he doesn't seem so scummy to me" and voila, You've got Your lurker lynch. Giving You no information about people who voted on the lurker (and we probably won't have this problem) and giving You a green flip. Day 1 lurker lynch is.. worse than a no-lynch, because we will hit town on 99% of basis. Analysis: + Show Spoiler + Kurumi makes two policy posts, both saying that lynching lurkers is a bad idea, then proceed to lurk again. I don´t know if this is some crazy plan by a scumteam to confuse Town, or if they´ve just given up on the game, but whatever it is they need to snap out of it and post. If we are looking for anti-Town behavior, then here it is, and they deserve to be lynched for it. | ||
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Kurumi
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