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If you don't see it, that on you :p
Or this could be one of those times that I'm pulling something out of thin air.
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On November 04 2011 08:00 iGrok wrote:
If you don't see it, that on you :p
Or this could be one of those times that I'm pulling something out of thin air.
I don't see how referring to another game says something?
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On November 04 2011 08:01 hyshes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2011 08:00 iGrok wrote:
If you don't see it, that on you :p
Or this could be one of those times that I'm pulling something out of thin air. I don't see how referring to another game says something?
huh?
@iGrok: well you're right about sandro. Grey wants to vote him. i kind of agree with that.
this behaviour of not attacking anyone and talking about general strategies is indeed pretty scummy.
on the other hand you suddenly appeared and magically found a good lynchtarget.
i want to see sandros response!
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On November 04 2011 08:08 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2011 08:01 hyshes wrote:On November 04 2011 08:00 iGrok wrote:
If you don't see it, that on you :p
Or this could be one of those times that I'm pulling something out of thin air. I don't see how referring to another game says something? huh? @iGrok: well you're right about sandro. Grey wants to vote him. i kind of agree with that. this behaviour of not attacking anyone and talking about general strategies is indeed pretty scummy. on the other hand you suddenly appeared and magically found a good lynchtarget. i want to see sandros response!
I think i've made stupid comment there. I thought he was linking to another game.
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Pending a better target i think the Team SS lynch is the best one presented thus far. Sandroba has been pretty noncommital. He suggests we do a no lynch day1 in order to give us more time to find scum. however he has not done any real scum hunting. most of his comments either revolve around trying to convince people to no lynch, or shooting down other people.
Team S&G consulting agrees
##Vote: Team SS
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Team SS is at L-2. No more votes until they have a chance to comment
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For emphasis,
Team SS is at L-2. No more votes for them please until they have a chance to comment
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On November 04 2011 08:21 iGrok wrote:
Team SS is at L-2. No more votes until they have a chance to comment
L-2 = 2 votes needed for lynch? this is not in LSB's Newbie Guide..
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On November 04 2011 08:23 hyshes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2011 08:21 iGrok wrote:
Team SS is at L-2. No more votes until they have a chance to comment L-2 = 2 votes needed for lynch? this is not in LSB's Newbie Guide..
Yea, It means we only need 2 more votes to lynch them. Although I dont think mafia would make a hammer so early in a game, it could still conceptually happen, so we have to be careful.
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Sevryn is sick and asked to replace out.
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On November 04 2011 08:33 sandroba wrote:
Sevryn is sick and asked to replace out.
Sevryn has been replaced by Deconduo
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On November 04 2011 07:52 prplhz wrote:
Well I'm sold, I hope Forumite feels the same way 'cause:
##Unvote
##Vote Team SS Sure, you can pick this lynch, I´ll pick the next one 
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Hai guise. Lets catch some mafias 
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Hai deconduo. Die
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On November 04 2011 09:30 prplhz wrote:Hai deconduo. Die
Yeah you're scum.
On November 03 2011 08:48 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 08:41 GMarshal wrote:On November 03 2011 08:39 prplhz wrote:On November 03 2011 08:33 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 03 2011 08:29 GMarshal wrote:On November 03 2011 08:27 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 03 2011 07:47 GMarshal wrote:
oh, wait, this is majority lynch. I knew I forgot to talk about something important.
For fucks sake, if you get someone to L-2 stop voting for him until the last 12 hours of the day, and give warning before hammering. Remember, more time is always good for town, and giving the lynchee time to dump information can only be good. Leaving the player at L-2 ensures we avoid any "accidental" lynches. Lynch minus two is three votes. Are you advocating that we just split the vote once someone reaches 3 votes?? I don't trust that this will be a great idea, particularly as people are often not available when you need them, and vote-splitting is great for scum. While we'd only need two more to lynch, that's not very comforting either. In such a situation we'd basically need to last-minute voteswitch if we think that we have a townie at 3 votes. Otherwise, we take the risk of no-lynch. Of course it opens us up to scum manipulation too. Scum can throw in a late vote "to stop a no-lynch" and then bam we lose a townie. I meant two votes to lynch, so if a player needs 7 to lynch, stop at 5. This policy would only be in effect for the first 36 or so hours of each day, but from personal experience, nothing sucks more than lighting bandwagons ending the day 3 hours in because everyone agrees someone is "scummy" and then seeing them flip green. GM are you not understanding what I'm saying? A person gets lynched at 5 votes. Lynch minus 2 is 3 votes. gm thinks this is a 12 player game hahahahahahaha Oh, frag, I forgot its a 9 team game. Oops. In my mind the smallest game that exists has 11 players :-P In that case I suppose I can live with leaving a player at L-1, but if anyone quickhammers I will rip them a new one. ... I'm suspicious, but I'll let this slide for a sec because something bigger just appeared Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 08:42 hyshes wrote:On November 03 2011 08:31 Forumite wrote:On November 03 2011 08:00 GreYMisT wrote:
One thing that will be interesting this game will be analyzing the behavior of teams. do we judge the 2 players as a unit, looking for scum behavior in both? Or is one player acting scummy enough to vote. Tricky... Two posters means twice the risk of mistakes, I would have liked to say that means it´s twice as easy to find scum, but Town make stupid scumslips too. I think we´ll have to take it on a case-by-case basis. Actually the best way of playing this kind of mafia is splitting up your team. If only one of you knows your role, then only one can make mistakes. The only thing you need to do together is analysis of the other teams. To prevent any possible mistakes, must the one who knows the role only paraphrase what his teammate says. Ofcourse by the second night the one who knows should tell the one who don't (a few nights later depending on the size of the game). There is an obvious easy mistake to make here: the role should always be hidden, even it's town. What in the eff Pretending you don't know what your role is, is something that scum like to do. You're advocating people split their team up so your team makes less mistakes (townies should not be afraid of making mistakes, but scum should be). Town don't strive to prevent all mistakes. Town strive to find scum. That's it. On the contrary, it's SCUM who strive to prevent mistakes. They don't want to be caught. So...not only is your "plan" unworkable, the things you are suggesting we should do are what scum would do, not town. ##vote Team Edward
Dumb doesn't mean scum. This is a terrible reason for voting someone. Anyone who comes up with a bad plan is usually town if you look at past games.
On November 03 2011 11:04 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 10:58 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 03 2011 10:39 Forumite wrote:On November 03 2011 09:56 GMarshal wrote:On November 03 2011 09:49 kitaman27 wrote:On November 03 2011 09:48 GMarshal wrote:
Hey! I know namecalling is *hilarious*, but its not conducive to finding scum, so please focus on that instead.
Oh and prplhz is scum, he is deliberately derailing the town.
##Vote: TEAM VIKING
Could you elaborate? Filter him. His grammar and spelling is annoying and he's pushing nonesense that doesn't further finding scum. If you don´t think what prplhz does is helping us find scum, then I guess you think hyshes is Town, right? Why didn´t you defend him instead? For all we know they could both be scum, let's not forget possibilities here. On November 03 2011 10:51 GMarshal wrote:On November 03 2011 10:39 Forumite wrote:On November 03 2011 09:56 GMarshal wrote:On November 03 2011 09:49 kitaman27 wrote:On November 03 2011 09:48 GMarshal wrote:
Hey! I know namecalling is *hilarious*, but its not conducive to finding scum, so please focus on that instead.
Oh and prplhz is scum, he is deliberately derailing the town.
##Vote: TEAM VIKING
Could you elaborate? Filter him. His grammar and spelling is annoying and he's pushing nonesense that doesn't further finding scum. If you don´t think what prplhz does is helping us find scum, then I guess you think hyshes is Town, right? Why didn´t you defend him instead? I have no idea of hyshes alignment, his NotChezinu plan is derp, but hey, its a plan. You on the other hand seem to be immensely annoyed at being called scum. Why this reaction to being called out? It looks like someone might have something to hide... Answering WBG's question about spelling and grammar, since when does a townie have a motive to make reading his posts harder and making him less likely to properly convey a point, making people more likely to disregard his posts? You seem to be all over the place atm, GMarsh. I think that's a pretty convoluted reason to think someone is mafia, especially in light of a much simpler and robust reason for hyshes being mafia. I would take your reads and reverse them; I think hyshes is probably scum (with chaoser) and I can't read prpl atm. And why do you think hyshes is scum? His plan? I'm not disagreeing, mind you, I just can't think of a reason why scum would post such an insane plan in the thread, rather than in the scum QT, unless he really *didn't* read his role PM, which would be patently ridiculous. We've seen many townies produce super anti-town plans in the past, which is why I'm hesitant to judge him just on that. I'm actually decent at reading chaoser, which is why I'm reserving judgement, I should be able to figure chaoser out a lot faster than hyshes, whom I have no experience with. So yeah, I'm jotting him down as a null read till I see more. But by all means, pile on the votes, I'm intrigued to see how that whole team reacts.
This. Its a new player with an ill-thought out plan.
As for Sandroba's No-Lynch day 1 plan, it has merits but as has been pointed out you shouldn't declare a no-lynch at the start of the day as all the extra scumhunting time is just wasted. The only exception to this would be a mylo situation where a mislynch would be a loss and a no-lynch would give an extra round of night actions.
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On November 04 2011 06:29 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2011 06:00 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 04 2011 05:57 chaoser wrote:Sound a little angry/overly defensive there, bro. Not really. Bro. I'm sorry if all caps to you is shouting, it can be used as emphasis to some point as well. I doubt this when you seemed to miss my vote on you. Why are you so hasty to relieve the pressure off yourself? Almost like you're panicking. lol, this is death factory mafia all over again. "Why are you defending yourself? That must mean you're panicking! You're MAFIA!" Obviously townies would defend themselves/try to get pressure off of themselves so that there's not a mislynch and the focus can be put to better use. Wtf kind of logic is that...
No, I don't have a problem with you defending yourself. I have a problem with how you're doing it.
You misconstrue what I say into saying I have shitty logic. I never asked you why you're defending yourself. I'm asking why you look like you're buckling under pressure. You're acting like scum who wants someone to accuse so that they don't have to take the heat. Can't handle the heat, chaoser?
To be completely clear, you "defended" yourself by claiming I never voted for you, in an attempt to push suspicion off yourself onto me. Finally, you proceed to attack me on the basis that I'm calling you scum because you defended yourself. That's not true either.
On November 04 2011 08:01 hyshes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2011 08:00 iGrok wrote:
If you don't see it, that on you :p
Or this could be one of those times that I'm pulling something out of thin air. I don't see how referring to another game says something?
Oh look, hyshes shows up but doesn't actually comment on what's going on.
Hyshes+chaoser are still the best choice.
On November 04 2011 07:33 iGrok wrote:
Lay off chaoser/hyshes for being defensive, even if they are scum, defending yourself is not a scumslip and people who look for that piss me off.
-_- iGrok read more carefully.
Hyshes has been completely neutral on the subject of lynching him and chaoser crumbles under pressure. I'm not attacking him for defending himself, I'm attacking him because he's acting like scum who wants a scapegoat instead of facing all the pressure.
While I think some of the things sandro has said are weird so far, I don't think he's the best vote.
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On November 04 2011 09:39 deconduo wrote:Yeah you're scum. Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 08:48 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 03 2011 08:41 GMarshal wrote:On November 03 2011 08:39 prplhz wrote:On November 03 2011 08:33 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 03 2011 08:29 GMarshal wrote:On November 03 2011 08:27 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 03 2011 07:47 GMarshal wrote:
oh, wait, this is majority lynch. I knew I forgot to talk about something important.
For fucks sake, if you get someone to L-2 stop voting for him until the last 12 hours of the day, and give warning before hammering. Remember, more time is always good for town, and giving the lynchee time to dump information can only be good. Leaving the player at L-2 ensures we avoid any "accidental" lynches. Lynch minus two is three votes. Are you advocating that we just split the vote once someone reaches 3 votes?? I don't trust that this will be a great idea, particularly as people are often not available when you need them, and vote-splitting is great for scum. While we'd only need two more to lynch, that's not very comforting either. In such a situation we'd basically need to last-minute voteswitch if we think that we have a townie at 3 votes. Otherwise, we take the risk of no-lynch. Of course it opens us up to scum manipulation too. Scum can throw in a late vote "to stop a no-lynch" and then bam we lose a townie. I meant two votes to lynch, so if a player needs 7 to lynch, stop at 5. This policy would only be in effect for the first 36 or so hours of each day, but from personal experience, nothing sucks more than lighting bandwagons ending the day 3 hours in because everyone agrees someone is "scummy" and then seeing them flip green. GM are you not understanding what I'm saying? A person gets lynched at 5 votes. Lynch minus 2 is 3 votes. gm thinks this is a 12 player game hahahahahahaha Oh, frag, I forgot its a 9 team game. Oops. In my mind the smallest game that exists has 11 players :-P In that case I suppose I can live with leaving a player at L-1, but if anyone quickhammers I will rip them a new one. ... I'm suspicious, but I'll let this slide for a sec because something bigger just appeared On November 03 2011 08:42 hyshes wrote:On November 03 2011 08:31 Forumite wrote:On November 03 2011 08:00 GreYMisT wrote:
One thing that will be interesting this game will be analyzing the behavior of teams. do we judge the 2 players as a unit, looking for scum behavior in both? Or is one player acting scummy enough to vote. Tricky... Two posters means twice the risk of mistakes, I would have liked to say that means it´s twice as easy to find scum, but Town make stupid scumslips too. I think we´ll have to take it on a case-by-case basis. Actually the best way of playing this kind of mafia is splitting up your team. If only one of you knows your role, then only one can make mistakes. The only thing you need to do together is analysis of the other teams. To prevent any possible mistakes, must the one who knows the role only paraphrase what his teammate says. Ofcourse by the second night the one who knows should tell the one who don't (a few nights later depending on the size of the game). There is an obvious easy mistake to make here: the role should always be hidden, even it's town. What in the eff Pretending you don't know what your role is, is something that scum like to do. You're advocating people split their team up so your team makes less mistakes (townies should not be afraid of making mistakes, but scum should be). Town don't strive to prevent all mistakes. Town strive to find scum. That's it. On the contrary, it's SCUM who strive to prevent mistakes. They don't want to be caught. So...not only is your "plan" unworkable, the things you are suggesting we should do are what scum would do, not town. ##vote Team Edward Dumb doesn't mean scum. This is a terrible reason for voting someone. Anyone who comes up with a bad plan is usually town if you look at past games. Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 11:04 GMarshal wrote:On November 03 2011 10:58 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 03 2011 10:39 Forumite wrote:On November 03 2011 09:56 GMarshal wrote:On November 03 2011 09:49 kitaman27 wrote:On November 03 2011 09:48 GMarshal wrote:
Hey! I know namecalling is *hilarious*, but its not conducive to finding scum, so please focus on that instead.
Oh and prplhz is scum, he is deliberately derailing the town.
##Vote: TEAM VIKING
Could you elaborate? Filter him. His grammar and spelling is annoying and he's pushing nonesense that doesn't further finding scum. If you don´t think what prplhz does is helping us find scum, then I guess you think hyshes is Town, right? Why didn´t you defend him instead? For all we know they could both be scum, let's not forget possibilities here. On November 03 2011 10:51 GMarshal wrote:On November 03 2011 10:39 Forumite wrote:On November 03 2011 09:56 GMarshal wrote:On November 03 2011 09:49 kitaman27 wrote:On November 03 2011 09:48 GMarshal wrote:
Hey! I know namecalling is *hilarious*, but its not conducive to finding scum, so please focus on that instead.
Oh and prplhz is scum, he is deliberately derailing the town.
##Vote: TEAM VIKING
Could you elaborate? Filter him. His grammar and spelling is annoying and he's pushing nonesense that doesn't further finding scum. If you don´t think what prplhz does is helping us find scum, then I guess you think hyshes is Town, right? Why didn´t you defend him instead? I have no idea of hyshes alignment, his NotChezinu plan is derp, but hey, its a plan. You on the other hand seem to be immensely annoyed at being called scum. Why this reaction to being called out? It looks like someone might have something to hide... Answering WBG's question about spelling and grammar, since when does a townie have a motive to make reading his posts harder and making him less likely to properly convey a point, making people more likely to disregard his posts? You seem to be all over the place atm, GMarsh. I think that's a pretty convoluted reason to think someone is mafia, especially in light of a much simpler and robust reason for hyshes being mafia. I would take your reads and reverse them; I think hyshes is probably scum (with chaoser) and I can't read prpl atm. And why do you think hyshes is scum? His plan? I'm not disagreeing, mind you, I just can't think of a reason why scum would post such an insane plan in the thread, rather than in the scum QT, unless he really *didn't* read his role PM, which would be patently ridiculous. We've seen many townies produce super anti-town plans in the past, which is why I'm hesitant to judge him just on that. I'm actually decent at reading chaoser, which is why I'm reserving judgement, I should be able to figure chaoser out a lot faster than hyshes, whom I have no experience with. So yeah, I'm jotting him down as a null read till I see more. But by all means, pile on the votes, I'm intrigued to see how that whole team reacts. This. Its a new player with an ill-thought out plan. As for Sandroba's No-Lynch day 1 plan, it has merits but as has been pointed out you shouldn't declare a no-lynch at the start of the day as all the extra scumhunting time is just wasted. The only exception to this would be a mylo situation where a mislynch would be a loss and a no-lynch would give an extra round of night actions.
What's with people today and putting words in my mouth?
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i am not convinced at all that chaoser is scum. i know it's wifom but i kind of liked his reaction to my plan to abuse the game mechanics. my impression is, that it was an honest reaction. idk if the scumchaoser would have attacked this plan like this... we'll see..
I am against all plans where outside game mechanics are used/exploited whether I'm scum or town.
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On November 04 2011 09:39 deconduo wrote:Yeah you're scum.
At my first quick readthrough of the thread I got a bad vibe from you. All the posts I spotted were one-liner non-contributions that mostly amounted to spam. However upon closer inspection this post and this post were pretty good, so maybe you aren't mafia.
Apart from Sandroba, who do you think is scummy?
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@wbg:
I did not have to feeling i had to add anything on what my teammate said. That's why i lack in posting.
btw, for someone who is calling out that someone else is in panic, you also give kinda a panic reaction.
What's with people today and putting words in my mouth?
any chance you explain why you are so afraid that your words are misunderstanded?
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