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On July 18 2010 10:43 Misder wrote:##Vote: hyperbolaShow nested quote +On July 18 2010 08:10 Hyperbola wrote:
Hello my fellow Liquadians. I am here and active. Sup.
Just posting here not to get killed.
Btw SiNiquity is mafia because his last post is just way too long.
#### I vote SiNiquity Sketchy to me. He says hes active, but says he only posted because he does want to be killed. And hyperbola's reason to lynch SiNiquity is horrible lol. I was actually going to abstain, but hyperbola's post annoyed me lol.
I actually have to really agree now that this has been pointed out.
This is his first and only post, and it is posted in a manner to perhaps put himself just above the threshold of inactivity.
And he then votes for someone for contributing and trying to help the town too much. Not to mention the post he's quoting as his 'reason' for voting is the very one that points out his own activity.
Perhaps we can then put some more pressure on his inactive ass to give us any more substance.
##unvote
##vote hyperbola
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On July 18 2010 10:51 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2010 10:43 Misder wrote:##Vote: hyperbolaOn July 18 2010 08:10 Hyperbola wrote:
Hello my fellow Liquadians. I am here and active. Sup.
Just posting here not to get killed.
Btw SiNiquity is mafia because his last post is just way too long.
#### I vote SiNiquity Sketchy to me. He says hes active, but says he only posted because he does want to be killed. And hyperbola's reason to lynch SiNiquity is horrible lol. I was actually going to abstain, but hyperbola's post annoyed me lol. I actually have to really agree now that this has been pointed out. This is his first and only post, and it is posted in a manner to perhaps put himself just above the threshold of inactivity. And he then votes for someone for contributing and trying to help the town too much. Not to mention the post he's quoting as his 'reason' for voting is the very one that points out his own activity. Perhaps we can then put some more pressure on his inactive ass to give us any more substance. ##unvote
##vote hyperbola
Hmmm... I actually agree. I mean, I wasn't sure about lynching Bloody Cobbler anyway.
###Unvote
### Vote Hyperbola
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On July 18 2010 10:40 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2010 10:13 SiNiquity wrote:On July 18 2010 09:59 youngminii wrote:On July 18 2010 09:51 Bill Murray wrote:
EVERYONE abstaining? I guess it'd no lynch. Didn't expect that to happen! Okay so everyone should abstain imo. If you have any objections to this idea, please raise it asap because we need everyone to switch their vote to abstaining. Even one vote = lynch and that will be very suspicious of the person who left their vote by 'accident'. ##Unvote Pyrr
##Vote Abstain I'm not sure I like it. The inactives will get modkilled, no one gets lynched, the mafia kills 2 more people, and then we're back at square one, no? Show nested quote +On July 18 2010 10:16 Jayme wrote:
No-Lynch?
Oh hell no absolutely not.
I don't understand how a no-lynch is beneficial to the town if you're going to kill an inactive anyway. You learn absolutely nothing from it, you don't even have a CHANCE at hitting a red, and you're basically wasting a whole day on nothing.
No lynch is a terrible idea. If we lynch someone on the first day without any good reason there's a solid chance (12/15) that we'll hit a townie. That's 80%. There's also a better chance of lynching a blue than there is of scum. A no lynch is a gift that we should utilize instead of RVS.
There's a 27% chance we will hit a blue tonight. The mafia has a 57% chance of hitting a blue on the first night.
But if you want a good reason, then I'd consider hyperbola. Not to look petty, but his only contribution is "Hi, I'm active!" In fact, if you search his recent games, he's been inactive in most of them, and the last one he used this to his advantage to fly under the radar as mafia. So he has a history of being inactive. Assuming this continues, he's either an inactive townie or mafia, but either way it works to our advantage to lynch him.
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On July 18 2010 10:44 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2010 10:30 Tricode wrote:
##vote abstain
Just doing this if I don't make it tomorrow to vote. My dad is spending his last full day at home before he has to leave for a few months for work.
Other then that, I do suggest we lynch an inactive.
1.if we keep abstaining cause we are always uncertain of what to do, we will never push to killing and finding a mafia member if we went at that rate.
2. That person who is being inactive is probably useless to us anyways just because they are not doing anything to participate.
3. One of the inactive are likely to be mafia just because there is usually one or two guys that are inactive or just post a little bit just so they can stay alive.
Either case, we won't accomplish anything by abstaining, it might even hurt us cause if we keep the option in our head we might use it to much in fear of constantly killing townies/blues and such. So I suggest try keeping abstains as placeholders or if you are truly uncertain in what to do.
Otherwise I encourage and highly suggest that we always use our lynches.
Yeah I think we should lynch, just because isn't the mafia going to kill one of us by the next day? Then again, I'd feel horrible if I lynched a good person. I might abstain, but I'll have to see both sides first. I'll decide later.
Oh ho ho. Tis all about risks and taking chances and making educated guesses. If we only lynched when we absolutely knew we'd hit a bad guy, then hell not many lynches would happen the first couple of days ever.
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##vote hyperbola
place holder
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Vote Count:
4] Hyperbola (Misder, Divinek, Pandain, Zeks)
1] Amber[LighT] (jayme),
1] d3_crescentia (darthThienAn),
1] DarthThienAn (d3_crescentia)
1] citi.zen (rastaban)
1] chaoser (~opz~)
1] Divinek (bumatlarge)
1] SiNiquity (Hyperbola)
5] abstain (BloodyC0bbler, LaXerCannon, youngminii, tricode, Pyrrhuloxia)
Not voting and in risk of modkill: 14
If I do not have you down, please re-vote.
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On July 18 2010 10:40 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2010 10:13 SiNiquity wrote:On July 18 2010 09:59 youngminii wrote:On July 18 2010 09:51 Bill Murray wrote:
EVERYONE abstaining? I guess it'd no lynch. Didn't expect that to happen! Okay so everyone should abstain imo. If you have any objections to this idea, please raise it asap because we need everyone to switch their vote to abstaining. Even one vote = lynch and that will be very suspicious of the person who left their vote by 'accident'. ##Unvote Pyrr
##Vote Abstain I'm not sure I like it. The inactives will get modkilled, no one gets lynched, the mafia kills 2 more people, and then we're back at square one, no? Show nested quote +On July 18 2010 10:16 Jayme wrote:
No-Lynch?
Oh hell no absolutely not.
I don't understand how a no-lynch is beneficial to the town if you're going to kill an inactive anyway. You learn absolutely nothing from it, you don't even have a CHANCE at hitting a red, and you're basically wasting a whole day on nothing.
No lynch is a terrible idea. If we lynch someone on the first day without any good reason there's a solid chance (12/15) that we'll hit a townie. That's 80%. There's also a better chance of lynching a blue than there is of scum. A no lynch is a gift that we should utilize instead of RVS.
Bad idea, there's no incentive for town to post -> silent town = dead town
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Vote Count:
5] Hyperbola (Misder, Divinek, Pandain, Zeks, SiNiquity)
1] Amber[LighT] (jayme),
1] d3_crescentia (darthThienAn),
1] DarthThienAn (d3_crescentia)
1] citi.zen (rastaban)
1] chaoser (~opz~)
1] Divinek (bumatlarge)
1] SiNiquity (Hyperbola)
6] abstain (BloodyC0bbler, LaXerCannon, youngminii, tricode, Pyrrhuloxia, Roffles)
Not voting and in risk of modkill: 12
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A few comments on how I see the game going:
1. PMs are allowed so trust circles are the way to go. Sooner or later they will form because of Dt checks, medic protection, vet soaking up a hit when we know they are the lone vet, etc. When this happens we'll be in good shape.
2. BCs list is fine, but many people seem to miss its point entirely.
3. There is no roleblocker, but there is a suicide bomber. Be very careful with your circles. Speak through confirmed townies if possible.
4. We lynch an inactive and/or bad player day one. Hyperbola is a fine target. Bumatlarge is ok too, bringing grudges from prior games here can derail us for many pages.
5. I already voted for Darth, why is it not counted? I will likely change it, but still!
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it's hard to find each and every vote. this is why i'm asking people to correct me if i didn't count theirs.
5] Hyperbola (Misder, Divinek, Pandain, Zeks, SiNiquity)
2] DarthThienAn (d3_crescentia, citi.zen)
1] Amber[LighT] (jayme),
1] d3_crescentia (darthThienAn),
1] citi.zen (rastaban)
1] chaoser (~opz~)
1] Divinek (bumatlarge)
1] SiNiquity (Hyperbola)
6] abstain (BloodyC0bbler, LaXerCannon, youngminii, tricode, Pyrrhuloxia, Roffles)
Not voting and in risk of modkill: 11
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when you update the vote count like that bm could you be so kind to give the time until day ends? even a rough estimate would be cool if not that's fine i suppose i could be not lazy and actually read the time
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On July 18 2010 11:10 SiNiquity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2010 10:40 youngminii wrote:On July 18 2010 10:13 SiNiquity wrote:On July 18 2010 09:59 youngminii wrote:On July 18 2010 09:51 Bill Murray wrote:
EVERYONE abstaining? I guess it'd no lynch. Didn't expect that to happen! Okay so everyone should abstain imo. If you have any objections to this idea, please raise it asap because we need everyone to switch their vote to abstaining. Even one vote = lynch and that will be very suspicious of the person who left their vote by 'accident'. ##Unvote Pyrr
##Vote Abstain I'm not sure I like it. The inactives will get modkilled, no one gets lynched, the mafia kills 2 more people, and then we're back at square one, no? On July 18 2010 10:16 Jayme wrote:
No-Lynch?
Oh hell no absolutely not.
I don't understand how a no-lynch is beneficial to the town if you're going to kill an inactive anyway. You learn absolutely nothing from it, you don't even have a CHANCE at hitting a red, and you're basically wasting a whole day on nothing.
No lynch is a terrible idea. If we lynch someone on the first day without any good reason there's a solid chance (12/15) that we'll hit a townie. That's 80%. There's also a better chance of lynching a blue than there is of scum. A no lynch is a gift that we should utilize instead of RVS. There's a 27% chance we will hit a blue tonight. The mafia has a 57% chance of hitting a blue on the first night. But if you want a good reason, then I'd consider hyperbola. Not to look petty, but his only contribution is "Hi, I'm active!" In fact, if you search his recent games, he's been inactive in most of them, and the last one he used this to his advantage to fly under the radar as mafia. So he has a history of being inactive. Assuming this continues, he's either an inactive townie or mafia, but either way it works to our advantage to lynch him.
Hrm. Exactly what scum would do.
Starting a bandwagon against me when I've accused one of their operatives.
And SiNiquity, you took your time to write another rather lengthy post against me. I'm quite flattered but this is quite suspicious in my book. You almost seem on edge and unload the big guns on a random passerby on the street who looked you the wrong way.
And as a semi-legitimate defense: I'm quite quiet in all of my games. Yes I have been mafia in some but I've also had my fair share of green and blue roles.
You've picked the wrong person to act as your scapegoat bucko.
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Gentlemen, this is not majority lynch. A plan for all abstaining will basically allow the mafia to get a free shot off, because they can hide behind all the inactives, and pretend they didn't read the thread due to IRL, and thus did not unvote for ___.
Bad idea.
On July 18 2010 10:44 DarthThienAn wrote:
[DarthThienAn inserts thoughts on the no-lynch plan]
My goal is to maximize the number of deaths at the end of Day 1. Therefore, we should lynch someone who has voted.
You're going to play like Chezinu? So be it.
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Also, I'd like to once again push the plan of creating a list of FIVE or FOUR inactive players, and then using a random number generator to determine the lynch target. There are many ways we can do this, whether by using the amount of games SKT manages to take off of CJ tonight (well, we'd have to assign 0 to somebody) or some other random metric. Hell, someone could even stream it on their livestream.
In that vein, I suggest that we use Siniquity's list as our guide. I've selected random players who look interesting to me from the list of people who had not posted at that time. I somewhat think that mafia tend to post once called out on inactivity, as it's a stupid way to go at the beginning, so
hyperbola
LaxerCannon
Citi.zen
All of whom have posted uselessly, should be on the list. Obviously Citi.zen is an adept player, and so he could probably play his way off the list, but for the time being, he's raised several flags.
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
And this bandwagon against Hyperbola is just dumb.
## Vote Laxercannon
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day ends in a little under 20 1/2 hours
5] Hyperbola (Misder, Divinek, Pandain, Zeks, SiNiquity)
2] DarthThienAn (d3_crescentia, citi.zen)
1] Amber[LighT] (jayme),
1] d3_crescentia (darthThienAn),
1] citi.zen (rastaban)
1] chaoser (~opz~)
1] Divinek (bumatlarge)
1] SiNiquity (Hyperbola)
1] LaXerCannon (tree.hugger)
6] abstain (BloodyC0bbler, LaXerCannon, youngminii, tricode, Pyrrhuloxia, Roffles)
Not voting and in risk of modkill: 10
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it ends at 9pm tomorrow 10kst
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On July 18 2010 12:29 tree.hugger wrote:
Also, I'd like to once again push the plan of creating a list of FIVE or FOUR inactive players, and then using a random number generator to determine the lynch target. There are many ways we can do this, whether by using the amount of games SKT manages to take off of CJ tonight (well, we'd have to assign 0 to somebody) or some other random metric. Hell, someone could even stream it on their livestream.
One could argue about the likeliness of certain outcomes, so I think using an RNG would be alot better 
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