EPTi will keep playing in hopes of a "good" game, but i want to make sure that I don't have some setting not turned on/off, or that i am somehow doing it wrong.
If anyone could help i would greatly appreciate it!
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DeViliShChild
United States8 Posts
i will keep playing in hopes of a "good" game, but i want to make sure that I don't have some setting not turned on/off, or that i am somehow doing it wrong. If anyone could help i would greatly appreciate it! | ||
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KillerofGods
United States34 Posts
On October 30 2013 12:08 DeViliShChild wrote: I have played 20 games and it still says "needs game with better data 0/20" i will keep playing in hopes of a "good" game, but i want to make sure that I don't have some setting not turned on/off, or that i am somehow doing it wrong. If anyone could help i would greatly appreciate it! I would recommend turning on the memory reader by pressing the little gearbox and also make sure you have the newest version of the tool as that will prevent you from getting a good game. Having the gearbox on greatly increases the amount of good games you will get, and it's also harder to get a good game when you are in the bottom half of your league where your opponents are capped. | ||
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DeViliShChild
United States8 Posts
On October 30 2013 14:35 KillerofGods wrote: I would recommend turning on the memory reader by pressing the little gearbox and also make sure you have the newest version of the tool as that will prevent you from getting a good game. Having the gearbox on greatly increases the amount of good games you will get, and it's also harder to get a good game when you are in the bottom half of your league where your opponents are capped. Memory reader is on. sc2Gears is version V. 14.3.2 MMR-Stats V. 9.6 I have been top 5 for all 20 games. I now have played 27 games and just ranked up (and it placed me at #3) and still no MMR stats :/ | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
On October 30 2013 15:03 DeViliShChild wrote: Memory reader is on. sc2Gears is version V. 14.3.2 MMR-Stats V. 9.6 I have been top 5 for all 20 games. I now have played 27 games and just ranked up (and it placed me at #3) and still no MMR stats :/ Is there "ERROR No DB found" text in the start of the MMR tool log like in this example? Then you need to download the db file manually: see my last post. And yes. That problem will be fixed in the next version of the MMR tool. Interesting situation. It has been ages (don't even remember how many years) since have had Java code section simply stop working after JVM update (Java virtual machine). Whether the cause is a bug or intentional on Oracle's part it is unknown. But can be solved via replacing the download net code with other solution. | ||
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DeViliShChild
United States8 Posts
On October 30 2013 15:24 korona wrote: Is there "ERROR No DB found" text in the start of the MMR tool log like in this example? Then you need to download the db file manually: see my last post. And yes. That problem will be fixed in the next version of the MMR tool. Interesting situation. It has been ages (don't even remember how many years) since have had Java code section simply stop working after JVM update (Java virtual machine). Whether the cause is a bug or intentional on Oracle's part it is unknown. But can be solved via replacing the download net code with other solution. that error No DB found was it! I downloaded it and placed it in the correct folder. Restarted MMR stats and the error is gone. I will play some games tomorrow and see if that fixes. Thanks for such a quick response i appreciate it ***Edit*** It works now just as intended. Thanks again! | ||
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icezar
Germany240 Posts
First of all: Thank You! This is greate. I have 2 problems: 1. the db does not download automatically so every time there is an update i have to manually download it. 2. my MMR is very low :-D i have 7/39 games, i am plat, 3rd in my division, over 50% win rate, no bonus pool and i only installed this to see when i will be promoted to diamond (i was Diamond every season until this one - i did not play in the begining of the season). This says that my mmr is around 700 - that should be middle gold - I AM SCARED! Edit: what should i do when i use 2 PCs to play? slouhl i alway copy files from one PC to another? | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
And yes. This was little bit rush release as DB download unexpectedly broke after JVM update and that feature was needed as season lock started/starts. Would have wanted to do extensive code review before release but there was not enough time. | ||
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icezar
Germany240 Posts
I can confirm that now the db download works. | ||
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MMR-Stats
26 Posts
Please restart sc2gears to get 'update' button to appear. More details are available in the original post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14574325 Please note that you must update the tool as the old version cannot download DB files anymore. The ladder lock period (unless Blizzard messed up) has already started on Kr, Ch and Sea servers. EU will join at midnight CET and NA at midnight PDT. I already locked the DB file. This means all matches played after this will be set as estimate matches (no good games) until final maximum bonus pools are known for each server tomorrow. I will unlock the DB file after that. I also fixed the WoL bronze-silver offset. As there are so few WoL users I did not notice that Br-Si offset had changed when HotS was released as Blizzard kept all other offsets the same as before. The fixed value fixes graphs for those few WoL players who are in bronze MMR range. PS: It is interesting to see if Blizzard changes offsets or makes changes to MMR decay in start of the new season (it starts one week from now). If they do it likely requires 2 to 3 weeks to collect data to be able calculate new offsets. | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
On November 03 2013 23:47 icezar wrote: 2. my MMR is very low :-D i have 7/39 games, i am plat, 3rd in my division, over 50% win rate, no bonus pool and i only installed this to see when i will be promoted to diamond (i was Diamond every season until this one - i did not play in the begining of the season). This says that my mmr is around 700 - that should be middle gold - I AM SCARED! It is highly possible that you are indeed in mid gold. In some divisions you can easily be rank 1 and actually be in lower league range. Also at the moment even adjusted points do not directly hint where players are. This is due MMR decay. If player's MMR decayed after inactivity period, he will likely start winning more than 50% of his matches and adjusted points rise much higher than they would typically be for that MMR range player. And yes there are sometimes data errors that cause incorrect calculations. But these most of the time cause spikes upwards - not downwards. On November 03 2013 23:47 icezar wrote: Edit: what should i do when i use 2 PCs to play? slouhl i alway copy files from one PC to another? Match data is stored in following folder: [PATH_TO]\Sc2gears\User content\Plugin file cache\mmr.plugin.MMRPlugin\ It is stored in file called 'games_i.data' You can for example manually combine the files from time to time (use UTF-8 compatible text editor, notepad is not enough. You could use e.g. notepad++ http://notepad-plus-plus.org/ Also make sure the match lines are in correct order (4th value in each line contains time in long format) Other possibility is to store that file in some network directory that both computers can access or e.g. launch sc2gears from USB stick that you alternate between the PCs. | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
Kr, Ch and Sea server max bpools were exactly the same as last season. Even if EU and NA have not yet been locked (EU will be locked in few minutes, NA in ~9 hours), I decided to take a leap of faith. I opened the DB and set last season's max values for EU & NA too. I will recheck EU & NA tomorrow Monday. This was mistake. Even if Blizzard has succeeded regarding season locks for last few seasons, they now potentially failed regarding EU. --> I locked EU & NA again | ||
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NiteshadeSC2
Canada98 Posts
Now I receive: + Show Spoiler + 17:34:33 Game Start detected 17:34:33 Searching memory for character profiles for game HotS 17:34:33 Reading Memory ...OK 17:34:33 OK Found Memory-Profile in Active-Profiles! 17:35:13 Pre-trigger: Reading web profiles 17:35:17 Webgrabber: Player true 17:35:21 Webgrabber: Opponent true 17:35:21 Pre-trigger: Done reading web profiles 17:35:21 Pre-Trigger done 17:54:28 Post-trigger: Start 17:55:08 Post-trigger: Reading web profiles 17:55:13 Webgrabber: Player true 17:55:17 Webgrabber: Opponent true 17:55:17 Post-trigger: Done reading web profiles 17:55:17 Calculating adjusted points for the players (either Alg. A or B needs to succceed for certain player) 17:55:17 DATA Alg. A : success: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1710737/1/Niteshade/ 17:55:17 DATA Alg.B: failed, Unknown change points for player: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1710737/1/Niteshade/ 17:55:17 DATA Alg. A : success: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1915519/1/moneyalldae/ 17:55:17 DATA Alg.B: success:http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1915519/1/moneyalldae/ 17:55:17 Gamecheck: true 17:55:17 ERROR Game is set to BAD because of DB lock 17:55:17 Common reasons: ladder lock period, web profiles not updated to new season 17:55:17 Visit TL thread for more information! 17:55:17 POST-Trigger done 17:55:17 Data quality needs to be 100% to be able to calculate MMR 17:55:17 Data quality for calculating Player's MMR: 75% 17:55:17 Data quality for calculating Opponent's MMR: 75% 17:55:18 OK Uploader: game uploaded 17:55:18 Ladder Game Done! So, how do I fix it so this program will work? Niteshade | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
On November 04 2013 07:58 NiteshadeSC2 wrote: So after a long time of NOT using the program (it never provided any real displayed data anwyays save for inaccurate "guesses") - I decided to turn it on, and found an update available. Now I receive: + Show Spoiler + 17:34:33 Game Start detected 17:34:33 Searching memory for character profiles for game HotS 17:34:33 Reading Memory ...OK 17:34:33 OK Found Memory-Profile in Active-Profiles! 17:35:13 Pre-trigger: Reading web profiles 17:35:17 Webgrabber: Player true 17:35:21 Webgrabber: Opponent true 17:35:21 Pre-trigger: Done reading web profiles 17:35:21 Pre-Trigger done 17:54:28 Post-trigger: Start 17:55:08 Post-trigger: Reading web profiles 17:55:13 Webgrabber: Player true 17:55:17 Webgrabber: Opponent true 17:55:17 Post-trigger: Done reading web profiles 17:55:17 Calculating adjusted points for the players (either Alg. A or B needs to succceed for certain player) 17:55:17 DATA Alg. A : success: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1710737/1/Niteshade/ 17:55:17 DATA Alg.B: failed, Unknown change points for player: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1710737/1/Niteshade/ 17:55:17 DATA Alg. A : success: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1915519/1/moneyalldae/ 17:55:17 DATA Alg.B: success:http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1915519/1/moneyalldae/ 17:55:17 Gamecheck: true 17:55:17 ERROR Game is set to BAD because of DB lock 17:55:17 Common reasons: ladder lock period, web profiles not updated to new season 17:55:17 Visit TL thread for more information! 17:55:17 POST-Trigger done 17:55:17 Data quality needs to be 100% to be able to calculate MMR 17:55:17 Data quality for calculating Player's MMR: 75% 17:55:17 Data quality for calculating Opponent's MMR: 75% 17:55:18 OK Uploader: game uploaded 17:55:18 Ladder Game Done! So, how do I fix it so this program will work? Niteshade Reason: DB lock. As maximum bonus pools are unknown DB has to be locked always when season lock begins (otherwise it would give incorrect results during season lock period). Lock is released when max pools are known. I just unlocked the DB (see my last post). And estimate results are also quite accurate if there are no missing games in between and not too long from 'good results'. | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
Edit: New DB has been published. Please restart sc2gears to download it. DB for EU & NA is locked. This means all matches recorded with the tool either on EU or NA server are set as 'estimate matches' (no good games). DB for KR, CH and SEA is unlocked and good results are possible. I will check maximum bonus pools for EU & NA during Monday & publish a new DB that unlocks those servers. Edit 2: It is possible that EU is locked & higher max pools would be due winter time transition (1 hour more bonus pool). But we will see this later on Monday (but now to sleep 2 am here). | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
Final maximum bonus pools for different servers are: EU & NA: master+ 1826, diamond- 1059 KR, CH & SEA: master+ 1825, diamond- 1058 Also note you need to have MMR tool version 10.0 that was released yesterday to be able to download the DB file. Update button will appear after restarting sc2gears if you have not installed it yet. See original post for more information about the new version http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334561#1 PS: New season starts one week from now. I will likely lock DB on next Sunday (Nov 11) in preparation of this. | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
The new DB file flags new matches as estimate matches (no good games possible). When Blizzard updates all regional web profiles to new season, I will unlock the DB. Please keep in mind that sometimes it has taken Blizzard for several days to update the web profiles. I also will be busy on Monday evening and not necessarily have time to update the DB before Tuesday. Also as ladders seem messed up due MMR decay, one could expect that Blizzard makes some changes. There could be e.g. changes to the offsets. If there are, then the new S16 calculations will be incorrect for some time. It takes few weeks to collect enough data to be able to calculate new offsets. Edit 1: Update from late Monday evening: Blizzard still has not updated EU and NA web profiles to S16. Kr, Ch and Sea profiles have been updated. Thus I cannot unlock the DB yet. I will recheck the situation tomorrow Tuesday Edit 2: Both EU and NA web profiles were just updated. I will start 'season start determination' code into work... But it will take potentially few hours to get the results (may go to sleep before getting the results). | ||
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volta1
13 Posts
I have been afraid to use it because I would not want to be banned, but do people use it and is it safe? Has anyone even gotten banned for it? | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
On November 12 2013 07:00 volta1 wrote: How many people use the Memory Reader feature? I have been afraid to use it because I would not want to be banned, but do people use it and is it safe? Has anyone even gotten banned for it? I have never counted. I would guess that 30 to 60 % of the users have enabled memory reader these days. When looking (just looking, not counting) at the first thousand matches recorded with the new version, it seems that some ~90% of those users have had memory reader enabled (most active users usually apply the updates first). During S14 the tool was used for over 10k different character accounts (some users have several characters). --> There are thousands of users who have enabled the memory reader. And no. Nobody has been banned for it. Blizzard has no feasible ways to detect it (there are ways - some would lead to false positives, some would be against local laws, etc). Yes there is a risk but it is minimal. The choice has been left to you. | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
After Blizzard updated web profiles for all servers, the bonus pool starting times could be calculated. The new DB file unlocks all servers (good games are once again possible after downloading this DB). Edit: NA API still gives last season's data. Thus all games played on NA until Blizzard updates the API data is invalid (it is automatically set bad). | ||
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NiteshadeSC2
Canada98 Posts
I updated the DB, and this is what I am getting: + Show Spoiler + 22:44:32 MMR-Stats 10.0 22:44:32 --------INIT START-------- 22:44:32 OK File-Encoding UTF-8 22:44:32 OK Sc2Gears auto-save is enabled. 22:44:32 Loading HOTS DB file... 22:44:32 OK Loading DB version 16.1 done 22:44:33 OK DB up to date! 22:44:33 Loading character profiles: 22:44:33 Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1710737/1/Niteshade/ 22:44:33 Profile: http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/4398903/1/Niteshade/ 22:44:33 Profile: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4135726/1/Niteshade/ 22:44:33 OK Settings loaded! 22:44:33 OK Gamedata: 65 Games loaded. 22:44:33 Loading Archive... 22:44:33 OK Gamedata: 70 Games loaded. 22:44:33 Memory scanner is enabled 22:44:33 OK Triggers ready! 22:44:34 OK: Program is up to date 22:44:34 --------INIT END-------- 22:44:36 Pre-trigger: Reading web profiles 22:44:38 Webgrabber: Player false 22:44:39 Webgrabber: Opponent false 22:44:39 Pre-trigger: Done reading web profiles 22:44:39 Pre-Trigger done 23:07:10 Post-trigger: Start 23:07:50 Post-trigger: Reading web profiles 23:07:52 Webgrabber: Player false 23:07:54 Webgrabber: Opponent false 23:07:54 Post-trigger: Done reading web profiles 23:07:54 Bonus calc (Niteshade master+): max end: 47, max fetch: 47 23:07:54 Bonus calc (Niteshade diam-): max end: 27, max fetch: 27 23:07:54 Bonus calc (Maleficent master+): max end: 47, max fetch: 47 23:07:54 Bonus calc (Maleficent diam-): max end: 27, max fetch: 27 23:07:54 Calculating adjusted points for the players (either Alg. A or B needs to succceed for certain player) 23:07:54 Adjusted calculator ERROR: Invalid player data: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1710737/1/Niteshade/ 23:07:54 Adjusted calculator ERROR: Invalid player data: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1666354/1/Maleficent/ 23:07:54 ERROR LASTCHECK : Both players invalid 23:07:54 Gamecheck: false 23:07:54 POST-Trigger done 23:07:54 Data quality needs to be 100% to be able to calculate MMR 23:07:54 Data quality for calculating Player's MMR: 0% 23:07:54 Data quality for calculating Opponent's MMR: 0% 23:07:55 OK Uploader: game uploaded 23:07:55 Ladder Game Done! 23:07:55 -------------------------- It is becoming increasingly rare to get a "good game" with this tool... rendering it somewhat useless. Over the last 38 games the tool monitored, only 1 was a "good game" with results being displayed.... I understand it is free... but.... Nites | ||
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