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On February 23 2013 09:29 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 08:56 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:42 Wingblade wrote:On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all. IPL IS NOT SHUTTING DOWN. The OP of the thread implies it, and multiple well-known people within IPL explicitly say it. They are not closing. Get it through your head. What about the word "possibly" do you not get? Reread my post. On February 23 2013 08:38 Plansix wrote:On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all. But is has nothing to do with SC2 at all, in any way. I could say that video games are a whole are falling apart because of all the news about closing studios, Iphones and other stuff and find tons of "evidence" to back up my claim. But it is simply not true. Businesses close, things change, people get fired and every time it happens people do not need to act like the sky is falling. This has all happened before and it will all happen again. Well I hope you're right. We will see I guess. You know nothing about what's going to happen to IPL or SC2, because you don't have enough information at your disposal. The fact that you've blurted out such silly evidence in this thread ("IdrA got 20k viewers once herp derp", "IGN stream has 400 viewers right now") just makes it painfully obvious that you don't have enough information. Please stop speculating that IPL and SC2 might die, and wait until you have enough information to do more than throw guesses out.
It's just my opinion, no need to get upset dude.
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First , let's separate the SC2 trilogy from IPL.
IPL and 10 leagues just like it could fold tomorrow and the SC2 trilogy will roll along without any problems.
David Ting stated its a "5 year plan" to get IPL to become profitable. IPLs "value proposition" is a "synergy" with a high profile english language gaming web site. With this gone and no sugar daddy to pay the bills this league's viability is justifiably called into question by the average outside observer.
Making and selling video games is several orders of magnitude more profitable than is the "esports industry".
EA and ATVI are publicly traded corporations worth billions. What is the leading eSports company worth? not much
it is no surprise people question the viability of the IPL.
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grow up kids
User was temp banned for this post.
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On February 23 2013 11:33 MateShade wrote:
grow up kids
Nice post. You bring a lot to the table.
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On February 23 2013 08:56 AnomalySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 08:42 Wingblade wrote:On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all. IPL IS NOT SHUTTING DOWN. The OP of the thread implies it, and multiple well-known people within IPL explicitly say it. They are not closing. Get it through your head. What about the word "possibly" do you not get? Reread my post. Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 08:38 Plansix wrote:On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all. But is has nothing to do with SC2 at all, in any way. I could say that video games are a whole are falling apart because of all the news about closing studios, Iphones and other stuff and find tons of "evidence" to back up my claim. But it is simply not true. Businesses close, things change, people get fired and every time it happens people do not need to act like the sky is falling. This has all happened before and it will all happen again. Well I hope you're right. We will see I guess.
You didn't read MY post. There is ZERO possibility of IPL closing down from this. They are selling, NOT closing. There is no "they might close", or "there's a slight chance" because there really isn't. Unless every source we've seen so far is somehow lying, IPL will not close. Period.
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Not a fan of IGN: with so many sources out there (various youtube vids) I hardly need to go to those sites for reviews and new info (I think developers also shifted from giving info to sites like IGN many years ago to releasing the info themselves in their own sites). I also find IGN's reviews to be rather... biased? They are unable to capture a lot of what essentially maeks a game good/bad.
IPL on the other hand, is very well done. It is the only league which I constantly subscribe to: they provide quality content at a pretty affordable cost (compared to say... gsl season/yearly tickets... -_-). Granted, IPL has some pretty terrible luck with some of their events, such as a large truck knocking out the internet for the entire block, but they still find ways to keep things entertaining.
Say if IPL cannot find a new home... I am curious if they can operate solely on community investment via kickstarter or something similar.
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On February 23 2013 12:13 Wingblade wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 08:56 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:42 Wingblade wrote:On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all. IPL IS NOT SHUTTING DOWN. The OP of the thread implies it, and multiple well-known people within IPL explicitly say it. They are not closing. Get it through your head. What about the word "possibly" do you not get? Reread my post. On February 23 2013 08:38 Plansix wrote:On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all. But is has nothing to do with SC2 at all, in any way. I could say that video games are a whole are falling apart because of all the news about closing studios, Iphones and other stuff and find tons of "evidence" to back up my claim. But it is simply not true. Businesses close, things change, people get fired and every time it happens people do not need to act like the sky is falling. This has all happened before and it will all happen again. Well I hope you're right. We will see I guess. You didn't read MY post. There is ZERO possibility of IPL closing down from this. They are selling, NOT closing. There is no "they might close", or "there's a slight chance" because there really isn't. Unless every source we've seen so far is somehow lying, IPL will not close. Period.
Well thats not true. They may not find a buyer which would probably mean IPL shutting down since Ziff has no interest in a league
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On February 23 2013 10:34 AnomalySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 09:29 Doodsmack wrote:On February 23 2013 08:56 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:42 Wingblade wrote:On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all. IPL IS NOT SHUTTING DOWN. The OP of the thread implies it, and multiple well-known people within IPL explicitly say it. They are not closing. Get it through your head. What about the word "possibly" do you not get? Reread my post. On February 23 2013 08:38 Plansix wrote:On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all. But is has nothing to do with SC2 at all, in any way. I could say that video games are a whole are falling apart because of all the news about closing studios, Iphones and other stuff and find tons of "evidence" to back up my claim. But it is simply not true. Businesses close, things change, people get fired and every time it happens people do not need to act like the sky is falling. This has all happened before and it will all happen again. Well I hope you're right. We will see I guess. You know nothing about what's going to happen to IPL or SC2, because you don't have enough information at your disposal. The fact that you've blurted out such silly evidence in this thread ("IdrA got 20k viewers once herp derp", "IGN stream has 400 viewers right now") just makes it painfully obvious that you don't have enough information. Please stop speculating that IPL and SC2 might die, and wait until you have enough information to do more than throw guesses out. It's just my opinion, no need to get upset dude.
Saying "its just my opinion" is not a response to an argument you know.
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There were too many starcraft tournaments to choose from. I've always stuck with the GSL, GSTL and MLG main events because I don't have much time.
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On February 23 2013 12:14 Hikari wrote:
Not a fan of IGN: with so many sources out there (various youtube vids) I hardly need to go to those sites for reviews and new info (I think developers also shifted from giving info to sites like IGN many years ago to releasing the info themselves in their own sites). I also find IGN's reviews to be rather... biased? They are unable to capture a lot of what essentially maeks a game good/bad.
IPL on the other hand, is very well done. It is the only league which I constantly subscribe to: they provide quality content at a pretty affordable cost (compared to say... gsl season/yearly tickets... -_-). Granted, IPL has some pretty terrible luck with some of their events, such as a large truck knocking out the internet for the entire block, but they still find ways to keep things entertaining.
Say if IPL cannot find a new home... I am curious if they can operate solely on community investment via kickstarter or something similar.
What I find strange about their reviews is that what they say is rather negative, but their scores are high anyway. "Bad gameplay, meh graphics and boring story. 9/10"
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I think IPL is totally fine  They just wanna put time and money in other places and projects. I hope this season of IPTL will just continue and the next IPTL will be even bigger :D Enjoyed IPTL the most.
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On February 23 2013 15:00 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 10:34 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 09:29 Doodsmack wrote:On February 23 2013 08:56 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:42 Wingblade wrote:On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all. IPL IS NOT SHUTTING DOWN. The OP of the thread implies it, and multiple well-known people within IPL explicitly say it. They are not closing. Get it through your head. What about the word "possibly" do you not get? Reread my post. On February 23 2013 08:38 Plansix wrote:On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all. But is has nothing to do with SC2 at all, in any way. I could say that video games are a whole are falling apart because of all the news about closing studios, Iphones and other stuff and find tons of "evidence" to back up my claim. But it is simply not true. Businesses close, things change, people get fired and every time it happens people do not need to act like the sky is falling. This has all happened before and it will all happen again. Well I hope you're right. We will see I guess. You know nothing about what's going to happen to IPL or SC2, because you don't have enough information at your disposal. The fact that you've blurted out such silly evidence in this thread ("IdrA got 20k viewers once herp derp", "IGN stream has 400 viewers right now") just makes it painfully obvious that you don't have enough information. Please stop speculating that IPL and SC2 might die, and wait until you have enough information to do more than throw guesses out. It's just my opinion, no need to get upset dude. Saying "its just my opinion" is not a response to an argument you know.
That was not argument, that was only rage.
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On February 23 2013 15:00 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 10:34 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 09:29 Doodsmack wrote:On February 23 2013 08:56 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:42 Wingblade wrote:On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all. IPL IS NOT SHUTTING DOWN. The OP of the thread implies it, and multiple well-known people within IPL explicitly say it. They are not closing. Get it through your head. What about the word "possibly" do you not get? Reread my post. On February 23 2013 08:38 Plansix wrote:On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all. But is has nothing to do with SC2 at all, in any way. I could say that video games are a whole are falling apart because of all the news about closing studios, Iphones and other stuff and find tons of "evidence" to back up my claim. But it is simply not true. Businesses close, things change, people get fired and every time it happens people do not need to act like the sky is falling. This has all happened before and it will all happen again. Well I hope you're right. We will see I guess. You know nothing about what's going to happen to IPL or SC2, because you don't have enough information at your disposal. The fact that you've blurted out such silly evidence in this thread ("IdrA got 20k viewers once herp derp", "IGN stream has 400 viewers right now") just makes it painfully obvious that you don't have enough information. Please stop speculating that IPL and SC2 might die, and wait until you have enough information to do more than throw guesses out. It's just my opinion, no need to get upset dude. Saying "its just my opinion" is not a response to an argument you know.
But it IS a response to someone that wasn't even attempting to debate and instead was just raging.
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On February 24 2013 03:21 AnomalySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 15:00 Doodsmack wrote:On February 23 2013 10:34 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 09:29 Doodsmack wrote:On February 23 2013 08:56 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:42 Wingblade wrote:On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all. IPL IS NOT SHUTTING DOWN. The OP of the thread implies it, and multiple well-known people within IPL explicitly say it. They are not closing. Get it through your head. What about the word "possibly" do you not get? Reread my post. On February 23 2013 08:38 Plansix wrote:On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all. But is has nothing to do with SC2 at all, in any way. I could say that video games are a whole are falling apart because of all the news about closing studios, Iphones and other stuff and find tons of "evidence" to back up my claim. But it is simply not true. Businesses close, things change, people get fired and every time it happens people do not need to act like the sky is falling. This has all happened before and it will all happen again. Well I hope you're right. We will see I guess. You know nothing about what's going to happen to IPL or SC2, because you don't have enough information at your disposal. The fact that you've blurted out such silly evidence in this thread ("IdrA got 20k viewers once herp derp", "IGN stream has 400 viewers right now") just makes it painfully obvious that you don't have enough information. Please stop speculating that IPL and SC2 might die, and wait until you have enough information to do more than throw guesses out. It's just my opinion, no need to get upset dude. Saying "its just my opinion" is not a response to an argument you know. But it IS a response to someone that wasn't even attempting to debate and instead was just raging.
Problem is that you don't have an argument either. You're just randomly implying that the sky is falling, and when people call you out on it, you're just saying "it's just my opinion" and "we'll see".
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On February 24 2013 05:56 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2013 03:21 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 15:00 Doodsmack wrote:On February 23 2013 10:34 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 09:29 Doodsmack wrote:On February 23 2013 08:56 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:42 Wingblade wrote:On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all. IPL IS NOT SHUTTING DOWN. The OP of the thread implies it, and multiple well-known people within IPL explicitly say it. They are not closing. Get it through your head. What about the word "possibly" do you not get? Reread my post. On February 23 2013 08:38 Plansix wrote:On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all. But is has nothing to do with SC2 at all, in any way. I could say that video games are a whole are falling apart because of all the news about closing studios, Iphones and other stuff and find tons of "evidence" to back up my claim. But it is simply not true. Businesses close, things change, people get fired and every time it happens people do not need to act like the sky is falling. This has all happened before and it will all happen again. Well I hope you're right. We will see I guess. You know nothing about what's going to happen to IPL or SC2, because you don't have enough information at your disposal. The fact that you've blurted out such silly evidence in this thread ("IdrA got 20k viewers once herp derp", "IGN stream has 400 viewers right now") just makes it painfully obvious that you don't have enough information. Please stop speculating that IPL and SC2 might die, and wait until you have enough information to do more than throw guesses out. It's just my opinion, no need to get upset dude. Saying "its just my opinion" is not a response to an argument you know. But it IS a response to someone that wasn't even attempting to debate and instead was just raging. Problem is that you don't have an argument either. You're just randomly implying that the sky is falling, and when people call you out on it, you're just saying "it's just my opinion" and "we'll see".
Maybe you should reread some of my posts. I provided many different views on why I, and many others continually feel like the floor is bottoming out on the SC2 scene. Nice try though.
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On February 24 2013 06:14 AnomalySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2013 05:56 WolfintheSheep wrote:On February 24 2013 03:21 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 15:00 Doodsmack wrote:On February 23 2013 10:34 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 09:29 Doodsmack wrote:On February 23 2013 08:56 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:42 Wingblade wrote:On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:
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The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all. IPL IS NOT SHUTTING DOWN. The OP of the thread implies it, and multiple well-known people within IPL explicitly say it. They are not closing. Get it through your head. What about the word "possibly" do you not get? Reread my post. On February 23 2013 08:38 Plansix wrote:On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:
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The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all. But is has nothing to do with SC2 at all, in any way. I could say that video games are a whole are falling apart because of all the news about closing studios, Iphones and other stuff and find tons of "evidence" to back up my claim. But it is simply not true. Businesses close, things change, people get fired and every time it happens people do not need to act like the sky is falling. This has all happened before and it will all happen again. Well I hope you're right. We will see I guess. You know nothing about what's going to happen to IPL or SC2, because you don't have enough information at your disposal. The fact that you've blurted out such silly evidence in this thread ("IdrA got 20k viewers once herp derp", "IGN stream has 400 viewers right now") just makes it painfully obvious that you don't have enough information. Please stop speculating that IPL and SC2 might die, and wait until you have enough information to do more than throw guesses out. It's just my opinion, no need to get upset dude. Saying "its just my opinion" is not a response to an argument you know. But it IS a response to someone that wasn't even attempting to debate and instead was just raging. Problem is that you don't have an argument either. You're just randomly implying that the sky is falling, and when people call you out on it, you're just saying "it's just my opinion" and "we'll see". Maybe you should reread some of my posts. I provided many different views on why I, and many others continually feel like the floor is bottoming out on the SC2 scene. Nice try though.
Maybe you should reread my post. Your arguments are trying to extrapolate singular instances to an entire industry, while ignoring all the positive growth to accentuate the negative.
When someone calls you out on it, you fall back on some vague excuses about how it's your opinion, or you were just considering the possibility.
Your arguments were terrible.
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On February 24 2013 07:11 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2013 06:14 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 24 2013 05:56 WolfintheSheep wrote:On February 24 2013 03:21 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 15:00 Doodsmack wrote:On February 23 2013 10:34 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 09:29 Doodsmack wrote:On February 23 2013 08:56 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:42 Wingblade wrote:On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:
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So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all. IPL IS NOT SHUTTING DOWN. The OP of the thread implies it, and multiple well-known people within IPL explicitly say it. They are not closing. Get it through your head. What about the word "possibly" do you not get? Reread my post. On February 23 2013 08:38 Plansix wrote:On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:
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So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all. But is has nothing to do with SC2 at all, in any way. I could say that video games are a whole are falling apart because of all the news about closing studios, Iphones and other stuff and find tons of "evidence" to back up my claim. But it is simply not true. Businesses close, things change, people get fired and every time it happens people do not need to act like the sky is falling. This has all happened before and it will all happen again. Well I hope you're right. We will see I guess. You know nothing about what's going to happen to IPL or SC2, because you don't have enough information at your disposal. The fact that you've blurted out such silly evidence in this thread ("IdrA got 20k viewers once herp derp", "IGN stream has 400 viewers right now") just makes it painfully obvious that you don't have enough information. Please stop speculating that IPL and SC2 might die, and wait until you have enough information to do more than throw guesses out. It's just my opinion, no need to get upset dude. Saying "its just my opinion" is not a response to an argument you know. But it IS a response to someone that wasn't even attempting to debate and instead was just raging. Problem is that you don't have an argument either. You're just randomly implying that the sky is falling, and when people call you out on it, you're just saying "it's just my opinion" and "we'll see". Maybe you should reread some of my posts. I provided many different views on why I, and many others continually feel like the floor is bottoming out on the SC2 scene. Nice try though. Maybe you should reread my post. Your arguments are trying to extrapolate singular instances to an entire industry, while ignoring all the positive growth to accentuate the negative. When someone calls you out on it, you fall back on some vague excuses about how it's your opinion, or you were just considering the possibility. Your arguments were terrible.
They are not singular instances if it's a growing trend, sorry. When you see the viewer numbers dropping consistently across all players and tournaments, then you see many pro players retiring/switching to other games, then you see many teams shutting down or merging with other teams.... Come on now, use some common sense....
The only thing that has gone up is the prize pool from Gom and Blizzard, which is mostly thanks to WoW. That has nothing to do with SC2 being hugely successful at this point in time. They're trying to cover the wound with cash money, that's all that is.
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On February 24 2013 07:14 AnomalySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2013 07:11 WolfintheSheep wrote:On February 24 2013 06:14 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 24 2013 05:56 WolfintheSheep wrote:On February 24 2013 03:21 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 15:00 Doodsmack wrote:On February 23 2013 10:34 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 09:29 Doodsmack wrote:On February 23 2013 08:56 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:42 Wingblade wrote:
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IPL IS NOT SHUTTING DOWN. The OP of the thread implies it, and multiple well-known people within IPL explicitly say it. They are not closing. Get it through your head. What about the word "possibly" do you not get? Reread my post. On February 23 2013 08:38 Plansix wrote:
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But is has nothing to do with SC2 at all, in any way. I could say that video games are a whole are falling apart because of all the news about closing studios, Iphones and other stuff and find tons of "evidence" to back up my claim. But it is simply not true. Businesses close, things change, people get fired and every time it happens people do not need to act like the sky is falling. This has all happened before and it will all happen again. Well I hope you're right. We will see I guess. You know nothing about what's going to happen to IPL or SC2, because you don't have enough information at your disposal. The fact that you've blurted out such silly evidence in this thread ("IdrA got 20k viewers once herp derp", "IGN stream has 400 viewers right now") just makes it painfully obvious that you don't have enough information. Please stop speculating that IPL and SC2 might die, and wait until you have enough information to do more than throw guesses out. It's just my opinion, no need to get upset dude. Saying "its just my opinion" is not a response to an argument you know. But it IS a response to someone that wasn't even attempting to debate and instead was just raging. Problem is that you don't have an argument either. You're just randomly implying that the sky is falling, and when people call you out on it, you're just saying "it's just my opinion" and "we'll see". Maybe you should reread some of my posts. I provided many different views on why I, and many others continually feel like the floor is bottoming out on the SC2 scene. Nice try though. Maybe you should reread my post. Your arguments are trying to extrapolate singular instances to an entire industry, while ignoring all the positive growth to accentuate the negative. When someone calls you out on it, you fall back on some vague excuses about how it's your opinion, or you were just considering the possibility. Your arguments were terrible. They are not singular instances if it's a growing trend, sorry.
As I said, you ignore all the positive growth to pretend that there is a trend.
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On February 24 2013 07:18 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2013 07:14 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 24 2013 07:11 WolfintheSheep wrote:On February 24 2013 06:14 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 24 2013 05:56 WolfintheSheep wrote:On February 24 2013 03:21 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 15:00 Doodsmack wrote:On February 23 2013 10:34 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 09:29 Doodsmack wrote:On February 23 2013 08:56 AnomalySC2 wrote:
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What about the word "possibly" do you not get? Reread my post.
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Well I hope you're right. We will see I guess. You know nothing about what's going to happen to IPL or SC2, because you don't have enough information at your disposal. The fact that you've blurted out such silly evidence in this thread ("IdrA got 20k viewers once herp derp", "IGN stream has 400 viewers right now") just makes it painfully obvious that you don't have enough information. Please stop speculating that IPL and SC2 might die, and wait until you have enough information to do more than throw guesses out. It's just my opinion, no need to get upset dude. Saying "its just my opinion" is not a response to an argument you know. But it IS a response to someone that wasn't even attempting to debate and instead was just raging. Problem is that you don't have an argument either. You're just randomly implying that the sky is falling, and when people call you out on it, you're just saying "it's just my opinion" and "we'll see". Maybe you should reread some of my posts. I provided many different views on why I, and many others continually feel like the floor is bottoming out on the SC2 scene. Nice try though. Maybe you should reread my post. Your arguments are trying to extrapolate singular instances to an entire industry, while ignoring all the positive growth to accentuate the negative. When someone calls you out on it, you fall back on some vague excuses about how it's your opinion, or you were just considering the possibility. Your arguments were terrible. They are not singular instances if it's a growing trend, sorry. As I said, you ignore all the positive growth to pretend that there is a trend.
Nice dodge.
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On February 24 2013 07:14 AnomalySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2013 07:11 WolfintheSheep wrote:On February 24 2013 06:14 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 24 2013 05:56 WolfintheSheep wrote:On February 24 2013 03:21 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 15:00 Doodsmack wrote:On February 23 2013 10:34 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 09:29 Doodsmack wrote:On February 23 2013 08:56 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:42 Wingblade wrote:
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IPL IS NOT SHUTTING DOWN. The OP of the thread implies it, and multiple well-known people within IPL explicitly say it. They are not closing. Get it through your head. What about the word "possibly" do you not get? Reread my post. On February 23 2013 08:38 Plansix wrote:
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But is has nothing to do with SC2 at all, in any way. I could say that video games are a whole are falling apart because of all the news about closing studios, Iphones and other stuff and find tons of "evidence" to back up my claim. But it is simply not true. Businesses close, things change, people get fired and every time it happens people do not need to act like the sky is falling. This has all happened before and it will all happen again. Well I hope you're right. We will see I guess. You know nothing about what's going to happen to IPL or SC2, because you don't have enough information at your disposal. The fact that you've blurted out such silly evidence in this thread ("IdrA got 20k viewers once herp derp", "IGN stream has 400 viewers right now") just makes it painfully obvious that you don't have enough information. Please stop speculating that IPL and SC2 might die, and wait until you have enough information to do more than throw guesses out. It's just my opinion, no need to get upset dude. Saying "its just my opinion" is not a response to an argument you know. But it IS a response to someone that wasn't even attempting to debate and instead was just raging. Problem is that you don't have an argument either. You're just randomly implying that the sky is falling, and when people call you out on it, you're just saying "it's just my opinion" and "we'll see". Maybe you should reread some of my posts. I provided many different views on why I, and many others continually feel like the floor is bottoming out on the SC2 scene. Nice try though. Maybe you should reread my post. Your arguments are trying to extrapolate singular instances to an entire industry, while ignoring all the positive growth to accentuate the negative. When someone calls you out on it, you fall back on some vague excuses about how it's your opinion, or you were just considering the possibility. Your arguments were terrible. They are not singular instances if it's a growing trend, sorry. When you see the viewer numbers dropping consistently across all players and tournaments, then you see many pro players retiring/switching to other games, then you see many teams shutting down or merging with other teams.... Come on now, use some common sense.... The only thing that has gone up is the prize pool from Gom and Blizzard, which is mostly thanks to WoW. That has nothing to do with SC2 being hugely successful at this point in time. They're trying to cover the wound with cash money, that's all that is.
I think you should stop posting in this thread
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