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On March 18 2011 12:01 teamsolid wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2011 10:16 C5Five wrote:On March 16 2011 01:18 Wegandi wrote:
I've been playing video games for nearly 19 years now, and quite extensively (For instance during my FFXI binge I played something ridiculous like 250 days in a 4 year time period). That's not even counting my Halo, RA95, AoK, etc. days.
Yes, my eyes have become more near-sighted over the years, but that will happen to anyone who works on a computer for any amount of protracted time (and let's face it -- lots and lots of people work on computers for 8+ hours a day.) Hell, I sit in front of a computer for 12 hours a day at my work (USCG), and then usually for another 6-8 when I get home and for 10+ hours on my days off. My computer is my entertainment system (Music, TV, Movies, Games, etc.). I hardly have any headaches, nausea, back pain (learn how to properly sit and or buy a good chair), tremors, etc.
I am sure being a construction worker or some other menial task-doer is vastly better for you.
If you don't think it's worth the price then say it -- each person has their own subjective values, but to objectively state that you incur loss due to medical expenses later in life because you played a video game is quite laughable. (CTS is quite rare)
As a Radioman it's even worse for me because in my line of work it isn't uncommon to have loss of hearing later in life -- and the military doesn't pay disability for that (And I make ~36k a year as an E-4 with 4 years). Yeah, at work, watching tabs or text. Everyone can read a screen for hours without problems. Remaining focused on a game like SC2 or even a shooter for instance for several hours WILL fuck you up. Try it one day. Play from like 4 pm to 2 am without interruption (maybe only for bio and eating). I'd love to hear how many painkillers you'll have to ingest to calm that intense brain ache. It also engraves patterns into your muscles. Ever noticed that little callus most people using computers have at the base of their hands ? Yeah, that. Why do you think moving your hand in the opposite direction feels so "weird" ? I've done an 8 hour session of SC2 before and I didn't feel any head aches after. Sure it was a bit tiring, but I don't think it was mentally damaging at all. Granted, I don't know how it would feel if you did that everyday, but still I don't see any of the Korean progamers on painkillers.
Big difference between 8 hours of work and play.
Not to mention you not 'seeing' Koreans on painkillers is indicative of absolutely nothing. lmao don't be silly.
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Misunderstanding, nevermind, sorry for post
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On March 14 2011 16:01 bokchoi wrote:
Definitely goes to show how weak SC2 is in Korea in comparison to BW. Hopefully other Korean teams will be able to pick up more sponsors and more sponsors will continue to get involved so SC2 can continue to grow. At this point, it definitely is much more worthwhile to be a foreign (outside of Korea) SC2 player.
I don't think Korean SC2 teams would get sponsor from giant corporations like BW teams do. Simply because of the fight between Blizzard and Korean esport agencies. Most esport organizations and the media in Korea are anti-Blizzard at the moment because of this case. They feel that Blizzard is a blood sucker and won't support the grow of SC2 in Korea. That's the reason the number of SC2 sold in Korea is so low compared to NA and EU.
To tell you the truth, foreign players don't make shit. I have a friend that is a pro and he said that his teammates make less than 2k/year from sponsors and team pay. just look at what shirt foreign players wear compared to Korean players' race-car style jacket with sponsor names (small sponsors) all over the jacket.
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On March 18 2011 14:32 nart wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2011 15:58 Cedstick wrote:SK has cheaper living costs than in North America -- I personally can't compare to the EU -- and they already have their room, board, and supposed food paid for, so 31k is actually pretty damn good. On March 14 2011 15:45 FXOpen wrote:I pay above average  Until you disclose specifics, stop trying to turn this in to your thread  Until you disclose the cost of living comparison between South Korea and the states, don't post assumptions. If you said rural SK, then it might be true; but Seoul and the surrounding region have one of the highest cost of living in the world according to most studies.
Bolded parts for irony. How can you ask someone not to post assumptions and then post an assumption right afterward? Can you provide links to the studies you are referring to, or are you assuming?
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On March 18 2011 14:32 nart wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2011 15:58 Cedstick wrote:SK has cheaper living costs than in North America -- I personally can't compare to the EU -- and they already have their room, board, and supposed food paid for, so 31k is actually pretty damn good. On March 14 2011 15:45 FXOpen wrote:I pay above average Until you disclose specifics, stop trying to turn this in to your thread Until you disclose the cost of living comparison between South Korea and the states, don't post assumptions. If you said rural SK, then it might be true; but Seoul and the surrounding region have one of the highest cost of living in the world according to most studies.
I've had plenty of people tell me that the living costs in Korea aren't actually that bad, and the numbers they've given me are under what it's costed me to live in Vancouver, BC. Isn't the average income in the low 20k USD range?
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On March 18 2011 10:19 WAAA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 12:52 chenchen wrote:
Hey guys, I just want to make this clear, because there's a lot of misconception regarding this.
South Korea is a highly highly developed country, easily one of the fifteen most developed countries in the world (actually widely considered to be ranked 10th-15th) along with nations like NA (no Mexico), Northern Europe, Japan, and Australia.
The cost and standard of living in Korea is very high and comparable to that of any other urban first world country. The Seoul area is especially notoriously expensive. South korea is ranked #33 in terms of GDP per capita according to the international monetary fund (2010) with $20165. US is $47,132 at 9th, Australia $54,869 at 6th. So yea, you are quite wrong..
South Korea is ranked 12th by Human Development Index, the measure of standard of living in a country according to the UN. It's above several countries notorious for high standards of living such as Denmark and Switzerland.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_HDI
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On March 14 2011 14:45 Sanguinarius wrote:
Thats excellent news. 31k is a very respectable sum.
Especially in korea. Prices can't be compared.
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On March 18 2011 15:12 Froadac wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2011 14:45 Sanguinarius wrote:
Thats excellent news. 31k is a very respectable sum. Especially in korea. Prices can't be compared.
See my post right above yours.
The Seoul area, where most progamers live in, has a cost of living far higher than most of the United States.
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On March 18 2011 15:16 chenchen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2011 15:12 Froadac wrote:On March 14 2011 14:45 Sanguinarius wrote:
Thats excellent news. 31k is a very respectable sum. Especially in korea. Prices can't be compared. See my post right above yours. The Seoul area, where most progamers live in, has a cost of living far higher than most of the United States.
Maybe. It said it jumepd 20 places in from 09-10. All my friends who have been there just talk about how cheap it all is.
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It is cheap if you live like a Korean
It is expensive if you live like a foreigner
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So how many of you would swap positions with them?
Sure we debate about cost of living, and 30k being reasonable, but there's no way i'd trade places with them.
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With my spending habits, I'd say I'd still be saving a minimum of $25k a year... doing what I love. It's not like 8-12 hours a day playing a game is terribly hard work.
Yea, I'd switch places.
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I'd switch places after I complete my education, which is still early enough to give me a solid 5, 6 years as a successful progamer.
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On March 18 2011 15:53 Cedstick wrote:
With my spending habits, I'd say I'd still be saving a minimum of $25k a year... doing what I love. It's not like 8-12 hours a day playing a game is terribly hard work.
Yea, I'd switch places.
It's more demanding than you think.
Your gonna be mental exhausting if you play at a very high level for 8 hours or more a day.
It's really really not easy to keep your focus up and trying to improve your play / find holes and keep your level.
I'm sure many high level players that play much everday would agree.
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hmm. not bad, but i was just listening to Root.Destiny's stream and apparently between lessons and the stream advertisements he makes around 50-60K a year. the amount of exposure those pros get is probably several times higher too
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Wow, holy shit!
I want to be a pro-gamer...!
Not.
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