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Moology
Italy144 Posts
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DrParnassus
Afghanistan565 Posts
On March 14 2013 10:31 Moology wrote: yeah however, I thought we were targeting different things - maybe not?. Regardless I only played with a town marv (and its not matching up well so far) Not sure how much that applies here. When the first yelling & screaming was happening; no one else was online (apparently). Also: Guys like Marv/Bugs cant afford to drop activity if scum. So they need some spotlight shed on them regardless of alignment. The guys I am aware who avoid the spotlight as scum = Snarfs, Oats, I assume jcarlsoniv. I think it is a perfect description of what's going on. Lets go back in time to when both of us hated each other. Imagine that both of us are townies. Now, enter scum player, stage left. He has to contribute... but how to contribute in such a hostile environment? The two of us were yelling at each other, if the scum player is to pick a side (me or you) he's going to come under a lot of pressure from the guy he didn't align himself with..... so he's going to say something that goes along with thread sentiment. Here is snarf's first post: On March 13 2013 16:29 Snarfs wrote: Don't like NewbieXXXI_ObsQT. He just points out random crap that "could be scummy" and waits for others to chime in on it. Also DrParnassus, why are CastingGolems scum? Can you not think of any town reason for doing what they are doing? - S-head. This comes directly after our argument, and directly after both myself and the OO account called out iamp. Notice that he goes along with the thread sentiment about iamp, and neglects to comment on the issue between you/me. That's like, textbook scumplay. He's avoiding conflict and going along with status quo. The only other contribution from the wittyname filter is this: On March 13 2013 20:11 WittyHydraName wrote: Oats/Thrawn, whoever threw down the vote on Golems My other head asked you a question at the top of this page: Otherwise, VE, you seem to be making sense. Is this the game we we're dreaming about in the Hero mafia scum QT where we both roll town? In that post you were asking if one hydra head was asking for an opinion from the other head, he wasnt. He was asking for your opinion on his case on mocsta (OE is you.) -buddies VE -takes a completely neutral stance about CastingGolem. He questions me for my vote, and asks if I can't "think of any town reason for doing what they are doing?" Seriously? That is scumhunting? | ||
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DrParnassus
Afghanistan565 Posts
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NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
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On March 14 2013 10:42 Moology wrote: Share thoughts on what I said above about Marv.. you know him better than me.. Is his attitude this game indicative of a scum marv? (moc) Looks like he is interested somewhat so leaning town for now too early to tell though on a good scum player here. | ||
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Moology
Italy144 Posts
On March 14 2013 11:10 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote: Looks like he is interested somewhat so leaning town for now too early to tell though on a good scum player here. OK, well he given some pointers on what is a scum marv i.e. shits up thread; happy to sit back.. so I will keep an eye out for that. Want to def see more from the castinggolems + WittyName | ||
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DrParnassus
Afghanistan565 Posts
On March 14 2013 11:12 Moology wrote: OK, well he given some pointers on what is a scum marv i.e. shits up thread; happy to sit back.. so I will keep an eye out for that. Want to def see more from the castinggolems + WittyName scum marv is marv that is still alive at mylo. no wifom, no exceptions. other than that, hapa has caught scum marv before so you should be asking him these questions | ||
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NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
183 Posts
On March 14 2013 11:10 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote: Looks like he is interested somewhat so leaning town for now too early to tell though on a good scum player here. ebwop sincerely, iamperfection | ||
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NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
183 Posts
On March 14 2013 11:16 DrParnassus wrote: scum marv is marv that is still alive at mylo. no wifom, no exceptions. other than that, hapa has caught scum marv before so you should be asking him these questions implying i dont know a lot about marv. he is not that hard to read if he cares about the lynch and is active he is likely town if he isnt he is scum. from, Iamperfection | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
First off, town marv is aggressive when he needs to be, or really believes that he is right. I can go look up games for specific examples if you want me to, but it seems pretty obvious to me that you're either just making bullshit up, or judging off of a VERY limited sample size. Meta doesn't work like that. Don't fucking use meta if you don't understand how to use it properly. Secondly, show me a game where scum marv was hyper-aggressive. Go on. I'll wait. | ||
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DrParnassus
Afghanistan565 Posts
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On March 14 2013 11:38 DrParnassus wrote: kier what are you talking about? mocsta is the only one doing something like what you're suggesting. are you trying to defend your other half here? or accuse someone? or what? Defending my other half (myself). But he's not the only person who has said something along of the lines of "I don't like marv so far". He was just the only person that gave any kind of reasoning, even if it was terrible reasoning. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
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DrParnassus
Afghanistan565 Posts
But whatever, I have a town read on marv and therefore on you as well so I'm not really interested in the conversation | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On March 14 2013 11:43 DrParnassus wrote: Eh well... there's not really very much pressure on marv at all, even though he is being talked about a lot. You just seem a bit too loud about the issue considering the circumstances. But whatever, I have a town read on marv and therefore on you as well so I'm not really interested in the conversation Mocsta has put a lot of effort into making sure people talk about us. And I just got back to the thread to comment on the stuff. | ||
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Moology
Italy144 Posts
On March 14 2013 11:28 FiveTouch wrote: So, I'm reading through all these posts soft-accusing (read: discrediting) marv, but I still can't find a real reason that is even discussable. Closest thing I see is marv is "being aggressive, which isn't like town marv". First off, town marv is aggressive when he needs to be, or really believes that he is right. I can go look up games for specific examples if you want me to, but it seems pretty obvious to me that you're either just making bullshit up, or judging off of a VERY limited sample size. Meta doesn't work like that. Don't fucking use meta if you don't understand how to use it properly. Secondly, show me a game where scum marv was hyper-aggressive. Go on. I'll wait. Firstly, please demonstrate how your early vote fostered a positive town environment that didnt let scum hide in the shadows? There were many ways to handle the Role PM comment, and throwing a vote was perhaps the most polarising tool that could be used. Second, in response to your comments belittling me about meta usage. I did not claim to have a meta-read on Marv - otherwise I would have built a case. Fact: I noticed peculiarities in his play (compared to recent town Marv games) and voiced my concerns - transparently. Whilst others were not as concerned as I, they had also noticed similar peculiarities/changes in mindset. Kei, nice over-reaction post btw. If you had cast a vote, Dare I say. OMGUS. + Show Spoiler + P.S. (Mafia LIX) I was one of the guys that had a very strong read on FiveTouch as town early Day1; enough to mason him and stand up for his leadership when others were still doubting him actively. Whilst not indicative of his town play every game; there are some specific things he does which gives me a positive read on him - and all the games I have read him in since, has had the same type of behaviour. So far, I have not seen any of that behaviour. You can say the sample-size is small.. and I dont care... I wasnt building a meta case on him on as scum. I am commenting I do not find him overtly townie as I have become accustomed to. (moc) | ||
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AMG
Australia298 Posts
Ill give you my thoughts in an hour or two. Adam. | ||
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Promato
92 Posts
On March 14 2013 11:54 WittyHydraName wrote: Im strugging to find the motivation to follow this game, between Heart of the Swarm and a pretty big burnout after Duel. Ill give you my thoughts in an hour or two. Adam. I really consider this a scum claim from Adam. Maybe he really is burnt out, but town Adam is almost always loud about the lynch and has opinions. Scum Adam does nothing. This looks like scum Adam. As Marv said, this hydra is insanely easy to catch and I'm not surprised their collective effort is so small. Palmar/Bugs are both trollish players as either alignment, but I agree with Marv's sentiment that a total troll bugs is a mafia one, because town Bugs does try, and can be a very positive influence on town, minus the insults and complaining. Palmar is known to give zero fucks as any alignment, so trying to read his head of the hydra is less meaningful than picking apart what Bugs is doing, which is not scumhunting. Also, I'm looking at Moology right now. Something I can't explain feels off about Mocsta. Too much text formatting or something. | ||
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Promato
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DrParnassus
Afghanistan565 Posts
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On March 14 2013 11:46 Moology wrote: Firstly, please demonstrate how your early vote fostered a positive town environment that didnt let scum hide in the shadows? There were many ways to handle the Role PM comment, and throwing a vote was perhaps the most polarising tool that could be used. Good. I can't speak for marv's specific motivations, but a polarized town is exactly what town should want. It force scum to pick a side, rather than staying off in the shadows. The more polar, the better. On March 14 2013 11:46 Moology wrote: Second, in response to your comments belittling me about meta usage. I did not claim to have a meta-read on Marv - otherwise I would have built a case. Fact: I noticed peculiarities in his play (compared to recent town Marv games) and voiced my concerns - transparently. Whilst others were not as concerned as I, they had also noticed similar peculiarities/changes in mindset. Kei, nice over-reaction post btw. If you had cast a vote, Dare I say. OMGUS. + Show Spoiler + P.S. (Mafia LIX) I was one of the guys that had a very strong read on FiveTouch as town early Day1; enough to mason him and stand up for his leadership when others were still doubting him actively. Whilst not indicative of his town play every game; there are some specific things he does which gives me a positive read on him - and all the games I have read him in since, has had the same type of behaviour. So far, I have not seen any of that behaviour. You can say the sample-size is small.. and I dont care... I wasnt building a meta case on him on as scum. I am commenting I do not find him overtly townie as I have become accustomed to. (moc) Here's a hint: behavioral differences/similarities = meta. As far as "I wasn't building a case on him as mafia", you've spent quite a lot of time talking about him. And made it quite clear you think we are mafia, or at least in your top 2 candidates: QUOTE]On March 14 2013 08:35 Moology wrote: Otherwise for today I am stuck between the trolling of hardpec and aggressiveness of Marv. Marv normally tries to exert himself as town leader, and is actively trying to walk through with people his thought process. (moc)[/QUOTE] On March 14 2013 10:31 Moology wrote: Regardless I only played with a town marv (and its not matching up well so far) But you never outright call us scum. Why is that? But hey, since you're playing ball: give me some specific examples of why you think we are scum. | ||
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