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NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
Profile Joined March 2013
183 Posts
March 14 2013 03:38 GMT
#321
Hm well nothing interesting has happened since I left.

Well here are my thoughts before I hit the sack:

WittyHydraName is still scummy. In addition to Adam's lack of interest, Snarf being AWOL is pretty damning. In Duel Mini, he was so excited early on that he didn't roll scum (he rolled Traitor lol). This guy should be estatic to be town after rolling scum like 5 times in a row. He is not, and he is probably mafia.

CastingGolem/Dirk are still useless. What's more depressing is that one of them is likely to be town.

Prom is 'aiight right now.
The two man power trip.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 14 2013 03:40 GMT
#322
On March 14 2013 12:22 FiveTouch wrote:
But you never outright call us scum. Why is that?

But hey, since you're playing ball: give me some specific examples of why you think we are scum.
I chose not to call you scum, because I haven't seen anything specific that makes me think you are scum.
My concern is exactly as I detailed. I expect a town Marv to be blindingly obvious (to me); and I am not getting that.

Your emphasis on interpreting matters that I have explained simply and explicitly is not improving my opinion on your hydra.

Everything I wrote has been clear and to the point: so I am struggling to ascertain where your over-reactions originate from.

==============

Regardless let us continue discourse please: so what if I want to talk about you.

Why is that of so much concern to you; that you need to interject and apply immediate counter-pressure?

(moc)
Moology
Profile Joined March 2013
Italy144 Posts
March 14 2013 03:41 GMT
#323
On March 14 2013 12:40 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 12:22 FiveTouch wrote:
But you never outright call us scum. Why is that?

But hey, since you're playing ball: give me some specific examples of why you think we are scum.
I chose not to call you scum, because I haven't seen anything specific that makes me think you are scum.
My concern is exactly as I detailed. I expect a town Marv to be blindingly obvious (to me); and I am not getting that.

Your emphasis on interpreting matters that I have explained simply and explicitly is not improving my opinion on your hydra.

Everything I wrote has been clear and to the point: so I am struggling to ascertain where your over-reactions originate from.

==============

Regardless let us continue discourse please: so what if I want to talk about you.

Why is that of so much concern to you; that you need to interject and apply immediate counter-pressure?

(moc)

Moology
Profile Joined March 2013
Italy144 Posts
March 14 2013 03:42 GMT
#324
On March 14 2013 12:38 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
What's more depressing is that one of them is likely to be town.

Please walk me through this comment
NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
Profile Joined March 2013
183 Posts
March 14 2013 03:44 GMT
#325
As for this FiveTouch/Moology stuff.... butts.

I'm not concerned with either of them right now. Marv is Aggressive, but that's normal for either allignment. As far as being "over-aggressive" = scum-marv, I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary for him. He seems to care, and he seems to want to find scum without regard to his image. That's good enough for now, and if he's not dead in a couple of days, lynch him. Problem solved.

As for Moology, he seems to be emotionally involved in the game, and has handled pressure well so far.

I'd much rather be going after the players who haven't been posting much. All the players in the post above this one (Witty/Casting/Dirk) should be our focus for tomorrow. And maybe Promato to a lesser extent.
The two man power trip.
NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
Profile Joined March 2013
183 Posts
March 14 2013 03:44 GMT
#326
On March 14 2013 12:42 Moology wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 12:38 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
What's more depressing is that one of them is likely to be town.

Please walk me through this comment


WittyHydra is likely scum, therefore given a 2-man scum-team, one of the other two is likely not-scum.
The two man power trip.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 14 2013 03:44 GMT
#327
On March 14 2013 12:41 Moology wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 12:40 Mocsta wrote:
On March 14 2013 12:22 FiveTouch wrote:
But you never outright call us scum. Why is that?

But hey, since you're playing ball: give me some specific examples of why you think we are scum.
I chose not to call you scum, because I haven't seen anything specific that makes me think you are scum.
My concern is exactly as I detailed. I expect a town Marv to be blindingly obvious (to me); and I am not getting that.

Your emphasis on interpreting matters that I have explained simply and explicitly is not improving my opinion on your hydra.

Everything I wrote has been clear and to the point: so I am struggling to ascertain where your over-reactions originate from.

==============

Regardless let us continue discourse please: so what if I want to talk about you.

Why is that of so much concern to you; that you need to interject and apply immediate counter-pressure?

(moc)


Because your accusations have been completely unfounded. You've just been saying stuff about marv's meta without backing any of it up. Basically you've been working super hard to discredit us by soft-accusing us repeatedly and blowing hot air up everyone's ass, but haven't done jack shit about it.
Artanis & marv
Moology
Profile Joined March 2013
Italy144 Posts
March 14 2013 04:05 GMT
#328
On March 14 2013 12:44 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 12:41 Moology wrote:
On March 14 2013 12:40 Mocsta wrote:
On March 14 2013 12:22 FiveTouch wrote:
But you never outright call us scum. Why is that?

But hey, since you're playing ball: give me some specific examples of why you think we are scum.
I chose not to call you scum, because I haven't seen anything specific that makes me think you are scum.
My concern is exactly as I detailed. I expect a town Marv to be blindingly obvious (to me); and I am not getting that.

Your emphasis on interpreting matters that I have explained simply and explicitly is not improving my opinion on your hydra.

Everything I wrote has been clear and to the point: so I am struggling to ascertain where your over-reactions originate from.

==============

Regardless let us continue discourse please: so what if I want to talk about you.

Why is that of so much concern to you; that you need to interject and apply immediate counter-pressure?

(moc)


Because your accusations have been completely unfounded. You've just been saying stuff about marv's meta without backing any of it up. Basically you've been working super hard to discredit us by soft-accusing us repeatedly and blowing hot air up everyone's ass, but haven't done jack shit about it.

Again: more over-reactions.
You are trying to intimidate/counter-pressure me from investigating any further. i.e. cut the hydra head off.

I am surprised you think what I am doing is working hard to discredit your team.
If I thought you were scum; trust me, you would know. I would be up yo' ass with my "ugly penis"


Fact is: I have never seen Marv handle the early game the way he has handled it (so far).
I have every entitlement to ask if people find that strange. Especially those that have played with a scum Marv before.

Guess what Keirathi: others that commented have also mentioned noticing the behavioural deviation as well.
They also admit they dont think its scummy. so i dont know what your problem is.

That you are actively trying to shut me down, is making me question whether I am onto something now.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 14 2013 04:13 GMT
#329
On March 14 2013 13:05 Moology wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 12:44 FiveTouch wrote:
On March 14 2013 12:41 Moology wrote:
On March 14 2013 12:40 Mocsta wrote:
On March 14 2013 12:22 FiveTouch wrote:
But you never outright call us scum. Why is that?

But hey, since you're playing ball: give me some specific examples of why you think we are scum.
I chose not to call you scum, because I haven't seen anything specific that makes me think you are scum.
My concern is exactly as I detailed. I expect a town Marv to be blindingly obvious (to me); and I am not getting that.

Your emphasis on interpreting matters that I have explained simply and explicitly is not improving my opinion on your hydra.

Everything I wrote has been clear and to the point: so I am struggling to ascertain where your over-reactions originate from.

==============

Regardless let us continue discourse please: so what if I want to talk about you.

Why is that of so much concern to you; that you need to interject and apply immediate counter-pressure?

(moc)


Because your accusations have been completely unfounded. You've just been saying stuff about marv's meta without backing any of it up. Basically you've been working super hard to discredit us by soft-accusing us repeatedly and blowing hot air up everyone's ass, but haven't done jack shit about it.

Again: more over-reactions.
You are trying to intimidate/counter-pressure me from investigating any further. i.e. cut the hydra head off.

I am surprised you think what I am doing is working hard to discredit your team.
If I thought you were scum; trust me, you would know. I would be up yo' ass with my "ugly penis"


Fact is: I have never seen Marv handle the early game the way he has handled it (so far).
I have every entitlement to ask if people find that strange. Especially those that have played with a scum Marv before.

Guess what Keirathi: others that commented have also mentioned noticing the behavioural deviation as well.
They also admit they dont think its scummy. so i dont know what your problem is.

That you are actively trying to shut me down, is making me question whether I am onto something now.

I think you're misunderstanding my intent here. If you have a good reason for continually calling-us-scum-without-actually-calling-us-scum, then fine. I'm totes down to discuss anything with someone who has a reasonable argument.

You've just been slinging shit without backing it up. THAT is my problem with how you've gone about this.
Artanis & marv
Promato
Profile Joined March 2013
92 Posts
March 14 2013 04:31 GMT
#330
On March 14 2013 12:44 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 12:41 Moology wrote:
On March 14 2013 12:40 Mocsta wrote:
On March 14 2013 12:22 FiveTouch wrote:
But you never outright call us scum. Why is that?

But hey, since you're playing ball: give me some specific examples of why you think we are scum.
I chose not to call you scum, because I haven't seen anything specific that makes me think you are scum.
My concern is exactly as I detailed. I expect a town Marv to be blindingly obvious (to me); and I am not getting that.

Your emphasis on interpreting matters that I have explained simply and explicitly is not improving my opinion on your hydra.

Everything I wrote has been clear and to the point: so I am struggling to ascertain where your over-reactions originate from.

==============

Regardless let us continue discourse please: so what if I want to talk about you.

Why is that of so much concern to you; that you need to interject and apply immediate counter-pressure?

(moc)


Because your accusations have been completely unfounded. You've just been saying stuff about marv's meta without backing any of it up. Basically you've been working super hard to discredit us by soft-accusing us repeatedly and blowing hot air up everyone's ass, but haven't done jack shit about it.


Keir, I love you and all but shut up. I don't care that you find your other head town. Can you do me a favour and look for scum. Your hard defense with no scum hunting is way scummier than marv's early game (not calling you scum, just a reminder to scum hunt)

I said earlier I had no problem with the golems and one of you mentioned that I was okay with trolling or something. That wasn't it at all, I just feel like in their role play I can genuinely follow their thoughts so I don't mind it. And as VE said its kinda cute.
Yamato + Prom hydra for Hydra Mini
Moology
Profile Joined March 2013
Italy144 Posts
March 14 2013 04:32 GMT
#331
On March 14 2013 13:13 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 13:05 Moology wrote:
On March 14 2013 12:44 FiveTouch wrote:
On March 14 2013 12:41 Moology wrote:
On March 14 2013 12:40 Mocsta wrote:
On March 14 2013 12:22 FiveTouch wrote:
But you never outright call us scum. Why is that?

But hey, since you're playing ball: give me some specific examples of why you think we are scum.
I chose not to call you scum, because I haven't seen anything specific that makes me think you are scum.
My concern is exactly as I detailed. I expect a town Marv to be blindingly obvious (to me); and I am not getting that.

Your emphasis on interpreting matters that I have explained simply and explicitly is not improving my opinion on your hydra.

Everything I wrote has been clear and to the point: so I am struggling to ascertain where your over-reactions originate from.

==============

Regardless let us continue discourse please: so what if I want to talk about you.

Why is that of so much concern to you; that you need to interject and apply immediate counter-pressure?

(moc)


Because your accusations have been completely unfounded. You've just been saying stuff about marv's meta without backing any of it up. Basically you've been working super hard to discredit us by soft-accusing us repeatedly and blowing hot air up everyone's ass, but haven't done jack shit about it.

Again: more over-reactions.
You are trying to intimidate/counter-pressure me from investigating any further. i.e. cut the hydra head off.

I am surprised you think what I am doing is working hard to discredit your team.
If I thought you were scum; trust me, you would know. I would be up yo' ass with my "ugly penis"


Fact is: I have never seen Marv handle the early game the way he has handled it (so far).
I have every entitlement to ask if people find that strange. Especially those that have played with a scum Marv before.

Guess what Keirathi: others that commented have also mentioned noticing the behavioural deviation as well.
They also admit they dont think its scummy. so i dont know what your problem is.

That you are actively trying to shut me down, is making me question whether I am onto something now.

I think you're misunderstanding my intent here. If you have a good reason for continually calling-us-scum-without-actually-calling-us-scum, then fine. I'm totes down to discuss anything with someone who has a reasonable argument.

You've just been slinging shit without backing it up. THAT is my problem with how you've gone about this.

I see. Well I still think you are over-reacting to any question of motive regarding your hydra.

However I think you are right, and we have a misinterpretation of motives. In fairness, I can understand why you would take it as slinging shit - I am questioning you to others. But, from my perspective I was transparent about my motives. I saw something out of the norm; and was asking others
(a) is it just me seeing it
&
(b) is it scummy (for those that know marv better than me)
&
(c) I even asked the question directly to Marv yesterday, who reciprocated by brushing it off and talking about his dick.
So yeah, I am going to follow it up.

If the motive still isnt clear for you: its a townie trying to figure this game out and engaging other players in the game.

Maybe I haven't supplied quotes.. but the fact that others acknowledgement the behaviour peculiarities suggests it is simply not relevant.

==========
Now, you have focused much of your attention on me today: Are you in agreement with Marv on scumspect = Hardpec?

(moc)
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 14 2013 04:40 GMT
#332
On March 14 2013 13:31 Promato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 12:44 FiveTouch wrote:
On March 14 2013 12:41 Moology wrote:
On March 14 2013 12:40 Mocsta wrote:
On March 14 2013 12:22 FiveTouch wrote:
But you never outright call us scum. Why is that?

But hey, since you're playing ball: give me some specific examples of why you think we are scum.
I chose not to call you scum, because I haven't seen anything specific that makes me think you are scum.
My concern is exactly as I detailed. I expect a town Marv to be blindingly obvious (to me); and I am not getting that.

Your emphasis on interpreting matters that I have explained simply and explicitly is not improving my opinion on your hydra.

Everything I wrote has been clear and to the point: so I am struggling to ascertain where your over-reactions originate from.

==============

Regardless let us continue discourse please: so what if I want to talk about you.

Why is that of so much concern to you; that you need to interject and apply immediate counter-pressure?

(moc)


Because your accusations have been completely unfounded. You've just been saying stuff about marv's meta without backing any of it up. Basically you've been working super hard to discredit us by soft-accusing us repeatedly and blowing hot air up everyone's ass, but haven't done jack shit about it.


[b]Keir, I love you and all but shut up.{/b] I don't care that you find your other head town. Can you do me a favour and look for scum. Your hard defense with no scum hunting is way scummier than marv's early game (not calling you scum, just a reminder to scum hunt)

I said earlier I had no problem with the golems and one of you mentioned that I was okay with trolling or something. That wasn't it at all, I just feel like in their role play I can genuinely follow their thoughts so I don't mind it. And as VE said its kinda cute.

No. Fuck that. I'll shut up when he's provided a satisfactory reason for me being scum, since he's spent so much time talking about it. He's "contributing" without actually doing anything. That's not gonna fly, and I'll keep pressuring him until he gives me a reason not to.

Of course I find my "other half" town because he shares my alignment. What a stupid statement. None of us in this game are separate entities. Yea, every individual player is accountable not only for his actions, but those of his partner too. I am marv, marv is me. Just like you == yamato.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 14 2013 04:42 GMT
#333
On March 14 2013 13:32 Moology wrote:
Now, you have focused much of your attention on me today: Are you in agreement with Marv on scumspect = Hardpec?

(moc)

Of course.


On March 14 2013 03:16 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 02:02 ObliviousEyes wrote:
I'm more interested in what comes out of FiveTouch/WillNeverReadVEsPostsEver(DirkHardpec). Presumably, that's 2 hydras with four players who should know better than they appear to.

Know better than we appear to? What does that even mean?

Bugs is just throwing names out with no reasoning and not actually doing anything. Lynch him.


On March 14 2013 03:22 FiveTouch wrote:
Yea oops. I meant to sign, I just forgot. That post was me.

~Keir
Artanis & marv
Promato
Profile Joined March 2013
92 Posts
March 14 2013 04:43 GMT
#334
On March 14 2013 13:40 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 13:31 Promato wrote:
On March 14 2013 12:44 FiveTouch wrote:
On March 14 2013 12:41 Moology wrote:
On March 14 2013 12:40 Mocsta wrote:
On March 14 2013 12:22 FiveTouch wrote:
But you never outright call us scum. Why is that?

But hey, since you're playing ball: give me some specific examples of why you think we are scum.
I chose not to call you scum, because I haven't seen anything specific that makes me think you are scum.
My concern is exactly as I detailed. I expect a town Marv to be blindingly obvious (to me); and I am not getting that.

Your emphasis on interpreting matters that I have explained simply and explicitly is not improving my opinion on your hydra.

Everything I wrote has been clear and to the point: so I am struggling to ascertain where your over-reactions originate from.

==============

Regardless let us continue discourse please: so what if I want to talk about you.

Why is that of so much concern to you; that you need to interject and apply immediate counter-pressure?

(moc)


Because your accusations have been completely unfounded. You've just been saying stuff about marv's meta without backing any of it up. Basically you've been working super hard to discredit us by soft-accusing us repeatedly and blowing hot air up everyone's ass, but haven't done jack shit about it.


Keir, I love you and all but shut up.{/b] I don't care that you find your other head town. Can you do me a favour and look for scum. Your hard defense with no scum hunting is way scummier than marv's early game (not calling you scum, just a reminder to scum hunt)

I said earlier I had no problem with the golems and one of you mentioned that I was okay with trolling or something. That wasn't it at all, I just feel like in their role play I can genuinely follow their thoughts so I don't mind it. And as VE said its kinda cute.

No. Fuck that. I'll shut up when he's provided a satisfactory reason for me being scum, since he's spent so much time talking about it. He's "contributing" without actually doing anything. That's not gonna fly, and I'll keep pressuring him until he gives me a reason not to.

[b]Of course I find my "other half" town because he shares my alignment. What a stupid statement. None of us in this game are separate entities. Yea, every individual player is accountable not only for his actions, but those of his partner too. I am marv, marv is me. Just like you == yamato.


that is my point. Stop giving us meta reads on yourself and hunt scum, if you think it is moc show me why.

goodnight.
Yamato + Prom hydra for Hydra Mini
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 14 2013 04:48 GMT
#335
On March 14 2013 13:43 Promato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 13:40 FiveTouch wrote:
On March 14 2013 13:31 Promato wrote:
On March 14 2013 12:44 FiveTouch wrote:
On March 14 2013 12:41 Moology wrote:
On March 14 2013 12:40 Mocsta wrote:
On March 14 2013 12:22 FiveTouch wrote:
But you never outright call us scum. Why is that?

But hey, since you're playing ball: give me some specific examples of why you think we are scum.
I chose not to call you scum, because I haven't seen anything specific that makes me think you are scum.
My concern is exactly as I detailed. I expect a town Marv to be blindingly obvious (to me); and I am not getting that.

Your emphasis on interpreting matters that I have explained simply and explicitly is not improving my opinion on your hydra.

Everything I wrote has been clear and to the point: so I am struggling to ascertain where your over-reactions originate from.

==============

Regardless let us continue discourse please: so what if I want to talk about you.

Why is that of so much concern to you; that you need to interject and apply immediate counter-pressure?

(moc)


Because your accusations have been completely unfounded. You've just been saying stuff about marv's meta without backing any of it up. Basically you've been working super hard to discredit us by soft-accusing us repeatedly and blowing hot air up everyone's ass, but haven't done jack shit about it.


Keir, I love you and all but shut up.{/b] I don't care that you find your other head town. Can you do me a favour and look for scum. Your hard defense with no scum hunting is way scummier than marv's early game (not calling you scum, just a reminder to scum hunt)

I said earlier I had no problem with the golems and one of you mentioned that I was okay with trolling or something. That wasn't it at all, I just feel like in their role play I can genuinely follow their thoughts so I don't mind it. And as VE said its kinda cute.

No. Fuck that. I'll shut up when he's provided a satisfactory reason for me being scum, since he's spent so much time talking about it. He's "contributing" without actually doing anything. That's not gonna fly, and I'll keep pressuring him until he gives me a reason not to.

[b]Of course I find my "other half" town because he shares my alignment. What a stupid statement. None of us in this game are separate entities. Yea, every individual player is accountable not only for his actions, but those of his partner too. I am marv, marv is me. Just like you == yamato.


that is my point. Stop giving us meta reads on yourself and hunt scum, if you think it is moc show me why.

goodnight.

What? Literally the only thing I've said about marv's meta was my very first post in response to Moology, because I wanted him to back up his stance on us.
Artanis & marv
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 14 2013 04:59 GMT
#336
"I even asked the question directly to Marv yesterday, who reciprocated by brushing it off and talking about his dick.
So yeah, I am going to follow it up."

hahahahahahahahaha
Promato
Profile Joined March 2013
92 Posts
March 14 2013 05:02 GMT
#337
Keir, don't take his meta read so seriously. Moc is bad at meta.

-Yam
Yamato + Prom hydra for Hydra Mini
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 14 2013 05:18 GMT
#338
On March 14 2013 14:02 Promato wrote:
Keir, don't take his meta read so seriously. Moc is bad at meta.

-Yam

LOL, it was very recently you were the guy who had the worst reads on TL and tunneled them into oblivion.

*Anyways*
On March 14 2013 01:58 Promato wrote:
I'm still Yamato-less ...

I'm parking a ##Vote: Dirk Hardpec down for now. Bugs stop trolling and play please. Yes this is a pressure vote and yes I am telling you how to get out of it. You aren't dumb so I don't feel a need to disguise my intentions.

What is your stance on the vote?
Moology
Profile Joined March 2013
Italy144 Posts
March 14 2013 05:18 GMT
#339
On March 14 2013 14:18 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 14:02 Promato wrote:
Keir, don't take his meta read so seriously. Moc is bad at meta.

-Yam

LOL, it was very recently you were the guy who had the worst reads on TL and tunneled them into oblivion.

*Anyways*
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 01:58 Promato wrote:
I'm still Yamato-less ...

I'm parking a ##Vote: Dirk Hardpec down for now. Bugs stop trolling and play please. Yes this is a pressure vote and yes I am telling you how to get out of it. You aren't dumb so I don't feel a need to disguise my intentions.

What is your stance on the vote?

Promato
Profile Joined March 2013
92 Posts
March 14 2013 05:41 GMT
#340
You can see my stance in my filter.
Yamato + Prom hydra for Hydra Mini
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