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TLCastingGolems
Profile Joined December 2012
160 Posts
March 13 2013 19:56 GMT
#261
Alright everyone, we have to head out until later this evening but we promise to give the crowd and the Newbies alike what they want. What kind of casters would we be, after all, if our purpose wasn't to provide entertaining information about people in a game?
WaveofShadow and jcarlsoniv - TL LoL Community Casters! | twitch.tv/tlcastinggolems | @TLCastingGolems | youtube.com/TLCastingGolems | Send us your replays! Follow us on FB! Support us in AHGL! ALL THE SOCIAL NETWORKING
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 13 2013 19:57 GMT
#262
On March 14 2013 04:55 DrParnassus wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [previous reasons] +

On March 14 2013 03:12 DrParnassus wrote:
also, the snarfs/adam combo is going by almost completely unnoticed. so, consider yourselves noticed


On March 14 2013 03:49 DrParnassus wrote:
hapa you have no idea how happy i am that you finally posted. i have like 3/4 scumreads but each of my scumreads somewhat contradicts the others. right now, I think something like a wittyhyrdaname + castinggolem combo makes a lot of sense. if those two are scum, everything else in the thread can be easily explained by townies being emotional and/or egotistical. i've already said why i think the castinggolem is red... i pick wittyhydraname because of how well they've managed to not get involved in any of the shit flinging thus far

-tom waits


more reasons:

As I've said before this game reminds me of LVIII. IN general scum will avoid the spotlight if possible, and this is even more true in games where people yell and scream at each other. I know this from first hand experience, lol. Wittyname fits that bill.

One of the only things in his filter his is focus on my page 1 vote for moology.... that's not something that any respectable scum hunter would choose to focus on.




I agree fully with this. Which is why I came into the thread whenever saying the arguments were boring and probably between townies. It's just a classic start to Day 1 in almost any game.
Artanis & marv
NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
Profile Joined March 2013
183 Posts
March 13 2013 20:03 GMT
#263
Where did you run off to VE? Need your thoughts on someone other than myself. If you think that cheerleading my own fight is scummy, then whatever. But I do want your thoughts on WittyHydra, and what you make of Bug's "trolly" start to the festivities. Throw in any other players you want.

Oh, and all of this recent posting has been all hapa.
The two man power trip.
ObliviousEyes
Profile Joined March 2013
United States57 Posts
March 13 2013 20:17 GMT
#264
I'm here man sorry, I'm at work. Give me like.....20.
From the shadows I come...
NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
Profile Joined March 2013
183 Posts
March 13 2013 20:23 GMT
#265
On March 14 2013 05:17 ObliviousEyes wrote:
I'm here man sorry, I'm at work. Give me like.....20.


You're voting me... why are you saying sorry to me?
The two man power trip.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 13 2013 20:26 GMT
#266
Because he was away and just got back? Don't read too much into it, just seems like common courtesy.
Artanis & marv
ObliviousEyes
Profile Joined March 2013
United States57 Posts
March 13 2013 20:30 GMT
#267
Ugh god damnit. Do you know how hard it is to type a post WHILE doing work that requires my clipboard?

Short Version
  • Your post fine, IamP post not. You responded, IamP didn't.
  • Agree Bugs just throwing around shit
  • Promise to look at Witty


##Unvote
##Vote DirkHardpec


I'll type up the long version but I don't want to lose it again trying to find a quote only to realize I had copied something from work -.-
From the shadows I come...
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 13 2013 20:53 GMT
#268
Vote count:

Dirk Hardpec (3): FiveTouch, Promato, ObliviousEyes
WittyHydraName (2): DrParnassus, NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
TLCastingGolems (1): Moology
FiveTouch (1): Dirk Hardpec
Moology (1): TLCastingGolems

Currently, Dirk Hardpec is set to be lynched!
~26 hours until deadline.


Extensive Edition:
+ Show Spoiler +
Dirk Hardpec (3): FiveTouch, ObliviousEyes, Promato, ObliviousEyes
WittyHydraName (2): DrParnassus, NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
TLCastingGolems (1): DrParnassus, FiveTouch, NewbieXXXI_ObsQT, Moology
FiveTouch (1): Dirk Hardpec
TLCastingGolems (1): NewbieXXXI_ObsQT, Moology
Moology (0): FiveTouch, DrParnassus
DrParnassus (0): Moology
NewbieXXXI_ObsQT (0): DrParnassus, DrParnassus, ObliviousEyes
Promato
Profile Joined March 2013
92 Posts
March 13 2013 20:55 GMT
#269
On March 14 2013 03:39 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
Hmmm looks like I missed a bit. Of note from the first few pages:

1) I read through that Moology/Parnassus fight earlier in the game and my eyes glazed over before I could finish it. Good discussion generator, but overall a silly fight over non-allignment indicative stuffs. Both seem townie based on how they handled it anyway.

2) "Casting Golem" or whoever is annoying, and not in a townie way. Summary stuff has been mentioned previously. However, a lot of his "analytical" posts are based around discrediting others rather than hunting for scum.

He has his vote parked on Moology...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=402039&currentpage=10#191

...then makes this giant post about how FiveTouch has a "vote first ask questions later policy"...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=402039&currentpage=11#205

However in that post on Fivetouch, there's no mention of suspicion, no mentions of reads, no mention of pretty much anything. It looks like simple criticism and is scummy.

Looks like my buddy iamp has our vote parked on him for now, and I have no objections.

3) Regarding "Promato" - one post caught my eye:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 02:05 Promato wrote:
On March 14 2013 02:02 ObliviousEyes wrote:
On March 13 2013 20:11 WittyHydraName wrote:
Oats/Thrawn, whoever threw down the vote on Golems

My other head asked you a question at the top of this page:

On March 13 2013 16:29 Snarfs wrote:
Also DrParnassus, why are CastingGolems scum? Can you not think of any town reason for doing what they are doing?

- S-head.


Otherwise, VE, you seem to be making sense. Is this the game we we're dreaming about in the Hero mafia scum QT where we both roll town? In that post you were asking if one hydra head was asking for an opinion from the other head, he wasnt. He was asking for your opinion on his case on mocsta (OE is you.)

I assumed OE was "OmniEulogy", the other head of Mocsta's hydra?

Ugh, I can't keep the names straight - I'd really like it if everyone just referred to everyone else by the name of the slot they're in. Anyway, his case on Moo seems driven by emotion - Mocsta/Oats have kinda a little history of going head to head as townies (Nomination, I thnk they did so in LX at one point?) so I wouldn't be surprised at all to find that's what's going on here.

I'm more interested in what comes out of FiveTouch/WillNeverReadVEsPostsEver(DirkHardpec). Presumably, that's 2 hydras with four players who should know better than they appear to.

TheCastingGolems are looking a little bit better - they're at least providing opinions now, which is better than before. I'll admit that the casting style is actually kinda endearing too.

For now, I'm also going to

##Vote: DirkHardpec

because his posts are basically begging for votes. So fuck it, why not oblige?

-VE


moc/oats goes back to their newbie games. I usually find just letting them yell at each other and ignoring their opinions of each other is safest.

Kier and palmar seem to be absent. I think this is just marv and bugs yelling at each other. I need my stupid other head here so i can talk some things over with him.

I'm gone until Yam comes back. Expect nothing from me until he shows he face.


Yamato coming back shoudl have nothing to do with how frequently Prome decides to post. Prome is never shy about posting as town, and this comment makes very little sense with his town mentality.



~Hapa


its a free time issue. Yam promised to carry and he hasn't shown up. I haven't heard from him in three days and I do not have the time for two games. As I said in pre.

Why shed doubt on me without calling me scum for it though? My activity is going to be shit this game espesially if its only me playing. So you better judge me on my posts.
Yamato + Prom hydra for Hydra Mini
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 13 2013 21:10 GMT
#270
prom the problem is that you have pretty much 0 reads so far. and if you'd've read the thread you would have realized that hapa had already gotten over that point to which you just referred. so what's up?
ObliviousEyes
Profile Joined March 2013
United States57 Posts
March 13 2013 21:22 GMT
#271
On March 14 2013 05:03 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
Where did you run off to VE? Need your thoughts on someone other than myself. If you think that cheerleading my own fight is scummy, then whatever. But I do want your thoughts on WittyHydra, and what you make of Bug's "trolly" start to the festivities. Throw in any other players you want.

Oh, and all of this recent posting has been all hapa.


Your post alone wasn't what I found scummy, but the fact is that iamp exhibited a similar mindset (trying to incite nonproductive argument in the thread) and then you came in and did almost the same thing. Call it me sensing a pattern in your slot's behavior and reacting to it.

I can buy "feeling silly" from Hapa, but iamp hasn't responded so it's meh…Hapa's posting makes me feel a bit better about the slot.

DirkFuckHerGentlyHardpec + Show Spoiler +
<3DougAdams/TenaciousD
however…the blatant aggression that leads nowhere is doing nothing to find scum that I can see. He seems to be sure that FT is scum, but is "willing to hammer that shit" on the Golems? It all reads fake as fuck…but don't worry - we're probably all bad for thinking he's scum.

There's not much to go on with regard to WittyName. He has a similar problem with (I presume) iamp's posting, but did not share my opinion on the Golems' cast-posting before it started to contain content. :/

I just want more from that slot honestly.

And I want more from the Moologists. I'm writing off his feud with Oats for now, but I'd like to know who he thinks is scum and why before completely ruling him out for today.
From the shadows I come...
ObliviousEyes
Profile Joined March 2013
United States57 Posts
March 13 2013 21:23 GMT
#272
EBWOP
-VE

-.-@OO I really don't even have to sign these shits.
From the shadows I come...
Promato
Profile Joined March 2013
92 Posts
March 13 2013 21:52 GMT
#273
On March 14 2013 06:10 DrParnassus wrote:
prom the problem is that you have pretty much 0 reads so far. and if you'd've read the thread you would have realized that hapa had already gotten over that point to which you just referred. so what's up?


replied to that as I was reading the thread but got called away (my girl is really sick, as much as I love you guys she still takes priority). I'm taking care of her pretty much 24/7 right now.
Yamato + Prom hydra for Hydra Mini
Promato
Profile Joined March 2013
92 Posts
March 13 2013 21:52 GMT
#274
On March 14 2013 04:52 FiveTouch wrote:
damnit, I was really hoping to get something out of Witty before you guys started voting him and forced his hand. Seeing if someone contributes without pressure is way more cool. I think I caught this idea off supersoft in... YANMM


lies! lies! I cuaght marv in a lie!

+ Show Spoiler +
it was actually normal IV, not YAN


On March 14 2013 04:09 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 04:01 FiveTouch wrote:
On March 14 2013 03:56 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
On March 14 2013 03:55 FiveTouch wrote:
On March 14 2013 03:51 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
On March 14 2013 03:49 FiveTouch wrote:
On March 14 2013 03:39 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
However in that post on Fivetouch, there's no mention of suspicion, no mentions of reads, no mention of pretty much anything. It looks like simple criticism and is scummy.


Then:

On March 14 2013 03:39 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
3) Regarding "Promato" - one post caught my eye:
On March 14 2013 02:05 Promato wrote:
On March 14 2013 02:02 ObliviousEyes wrote:
On March 13 2013 20:11 WittyHydraName wrote:
Oats/Thrawn, whoever threw down the vote on Golems

My other head asked you a question at the top of this page:

[quote]

Otherwise, VE, you seem to be making sense. Is this the game we we're dreaming about in the Hero mafia scum QT where we both roll town? In that post you were asking if one hydra head was asking for an opinion from the other head, he wasnt. He was asking for your opinion on his case on mocsta (OE is you.)

I assumed OE was "OmniEulogy", the other head of Mocsta's hydra?

Ugh, I can't keep the names straight - I'd really like it if everyone just referred to everyone else by the name of the slot they're in. Anyway, his case on Moo seems driven by emotion - Mocsta/Oats have kinda a little history of going head to head as townies (Nomination, I thnk they did so in LX at one point?) so I wouldn't be surprised at all to find that's what's going on here.

I'm more interested in what comes out of FiveTouch/WillNeverReadVEsPostsEver(DirkHardpec). Presumably, that's 2 hydras with four players who should know better than they appear to.

TheCastingGolems are looking a little bit better - they're at least providing opinions now, which is better than before. I'll admit that the casting style is actually kinda endearing too.

For now, I'm also going to

##Vote: DirkHardpec

because his posts are basically begging for votes. So fuck it, why not oblige?

-VE


moc/oats goes back to their newbie games. I usually find just letting them yell at each other and ignoring their opinions of each other is safest.

Kier and palmar seem to be absent. I think this is just marv and bugs yelling at each other. I need my stupid other head here so i can talk some things over with him.

I'm gone until Yam comes back. Expect nothing from me until he shows he face.


Yamato coming back shoudl have nothing to do with how frequently Prome decides to post. Prome is never shy about posting as town, and this comment makes very little sense with his town mentality.



~Hapa

Really Hapa? You literally called out Golems for doing that in the EXACT SAME POST THAT YOU DO IT.


Yes, I called out the golem for his comments on you.

Then I called Prome scummy ("makes very little sense with his town mentality") for his quote.

What is the problem here?

My reading comprehension fails.

Carry on.

~Keir


Poop I was expecting an EPIC BATTLE. Oh well.

Though I would like your thoughts on that Prome thing I quoted. Agree... disagree...?

Prom said before the game started that he was busy and would be relying on yamato to carry him. My assumption when reading that post was the "me" referred to the Promato account, meaning that Prom wouldn't be around to post for a while and there wouldn't be any posts from Promato until yamato showed up. Not that Prom was specifically avoiding posting until he could talk to yamato.


Ohhhh that makes more sense. So I'll wait for yamato do do his thing then.


that would make more sense but it isn't the case. I seriously don't have any time to devote to this game. I've read the thread once as it goes. I need Yamato to be here to carry me, my pregame plan was to not post and just sit in the qt with Yamato and make him do the leg work and I haven't had the chance.

Preliminary reads:
I like throats, this feels like a genuine attack on me from thrawn that I usuallyonly see with his town play. I was worried because of the moc/oats tunnel but being mature enough to let it go is points in my book. He is upgraded to an early green.

Five I'm worried about. marv's attacks on Dirk are a little weird, sure Dirk needs to stop trolling but that is why he should have votes. marv making an issue out of the contradiction was silly since bugs was clearly fucking around offering to hammer in a plurality deadline lynch game. marv is suspicious to me but, and I stress this, not enough to kill yet. I also hate people who defend me.

Golems are a little strange. While I like both soniv and WoS neither one strikes me as a power player. their decision to simply commentate with a few snide comments tossed in is actually a decent contribution for them. I don't have trouble following their thoughts although their posts do annoy the crap out of me.

The Dirk trolling remains the most suspicious thing in the thread on first read through(sadly enough). I don't like the other reasons marv has given for voting him but marv is telling the truth about Bugs scum meta (or has been setting up this ploy for months since I'm pretty sure he mentioned it during YAN)

Adarfs is probably my follow up if Dirk turns into a useful man beast. Both Adam and Snarfs are good and, well, I'm not seeing it. Intro post was lacking and follow up has been none-existent. Lurker lyncch, but one I'd be willing to say has decentish odds of flipping scum.

anyway, fuck Yamato. I'll try to be useful. Hopefully when he shows up eventually he'll play the game like he promised.
Yamato + Prom hydra for Hydra Mini
Dirk Hardpec
Profile Joined March 2012
United States73 Posts
March 13 2013 22:06 GMT
#275
You seem to be pretty adamant about getting upset this game marv. Right from the first post you made, you set yourself up to be angry at something. You've been trying to get into confrontations with just about everyone. Are you pretending to be annoyed at something in the game or is this genuine? Is your vote against us/Bugs an honest one? Do you think the way he posted makes us likely to be scum? What is your motivation with this?

/syllo
How this goes?
Dirk Hardpec
Profile Joined March 2012
United States73 Posts
March 13 2013 22:08 GMT
#276
sup neebs. I haven't checked my role PM nor do I plan on it. Fuck talking to wbg, he's just a liability.

/Palmar
How this goes?
ObliviousEyes
Profile Joined March 2013
United States57 Posts
March 13 2013 22:14 GMT
#277
Why did you sign that post above you /syllo? TRYING TO LEND CREDENCE TO YOUR POST BY ASSUMING A FALSE IDENTITY SCUM?!?!?!????!!!!!!

+ Show Spoiler +
Hi Palmar
From the shadows I come...
Promato
Profile Joined March 2013
92 Posts
March 13 2013 22:19 GMT
#278
I'm here

I will have some time to play tonight

Gonna give the thread a read and come out with some thoughts.
Yamato + Prom hydra for Hydra Mini
NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
Profile Joined March 2013
183 Posts
March 13 2013 22:46 GMT
#279
On March 14 2013 07:08 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
sup neebs. I haven't checked my role PM nor do I plan on it. Fuck talking to wbg, he's just a liability.

/Palmar


So will there be effort or reads coming from your half in the coming hours? We're 24 hours in and it doesn't look like you give half of a shit about this.
The two man power trip.
Moology
Profile Joined March 2013
Italy144 Posts
March 13 2013 23:35 GMT
#280
Guys Moc is back.

I pretty pissed Omni hasnt shown his face at all.

Considering Drik Hardpec might be 1 man up with Syllo; I am happy to take a replacement out of Palmar, Bugs, Syllo


==============
I really don't like this post from TLCastingGolems (but will oblige)
On March 14 2013 04:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well Soniv it's coming down to the halfway point of Day 1 and what have we got to show for it?

Honestly it doesn't seem much, Wave. The town has seemingly decided between voting for who annoys them the most; either us for 'casting style' and perceived inactivity and lack of giving them the precise analyses they want, or Dirk Hardpec for doing...well...nothing! I don't know about you, Wave, but this doesn't seem like a town who is keen to scumhunt to me, rather they're quick to jump on easy sheep targets for simple reasons.

Let 'em think what they want, Soniv. They'll come around eventually, I have faith in them. A few recent developments for those still catching up, DrParnassus is an angry guy, Promato's disappearance looking fishy, and ObliviousEyes coming to our defense somewhat.

Oh, but those aren't READS, Wave. We might make someone angry!

Too true. In that case, having a look at NewbieXXXI_Obs Cutie, despite the fact that he has aggressively been pushing for our lynch, actually looks pretty good right now. Gives analysis on major occurrences including the earlier Day 1 'fight' between Parnassus and Moology, and calls out his current scummy looking targets. Parnassus, on the other hand, accuses us of shit-flinging yet directly after this he flings his own at other members of the thread, including a post meaning to 'direct our attention' to WittyHydraName. No support, no real purpose. Fivetouch makes some comment which Parnassus immediately +1s. If I didn't know better I would think the earlier shit-flinging fight Parnassus had with Moology was specifically staged to make the both of them look town, which most people seem to suspect of them. Since our vote is still on Moology right now, I think it's time to hear from the experts' desk; we're going to pass it off to Moology.

Moology, any thoughts regarding your performance last night, or the current voting trends?

Current voting trends looks like everyone is feeling each other out.
Hardpec definitely comes across as trolling
And Prome is giving us early promises of low activity (I am in the same boat as him.. but still making an effort)
Snarfs/Adams have flown under the radar for me; if they dont contribute by closer to lynch will prob vote them. - Especially because they dont have multiple ongoing games to hide behind.

Otherwise for today I am stuck between the trolling of hardpec and aggressiveness of Marv.
Marv normally tries to exert himself as town leader, and is actively trying to walk through with people his thought process.
This marv is setting up a dictatorship of no tolerance.. and its a marv i havnt seen before. (Kei done fuck all from what I read)

##Unvote
I want to discuss the situation with my other head before issuing a vote with intent to lynch. If Omni is not present in the next 8-10hrs, I will make the decision for him.

====================

The reason I dont like the post above, is because ONCE AGAIN, the castingteam summarise the situation and when it comes to the meat and veg, they pass it off to someone else.

Yes, teh flavour is cute, but the strategy is preventing them from being accountable
I am actually surprised Promato was supportive of this (justifying them as newbies not expected to contribute).. thats bullshit.You sign up with the big boys, your contributions are just as expected.
I dont want to be stuck at LYLO with another "Grush57".

(moc)
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