Closed Casket Mafia - Page 16

Ace

United States16096 Posts

June 28 2011 12:18 GMT

#301

Day 1 Votes

With 16 alive it is 9 to lynch

Hessmyrr (1) - Kurumi
Radfield (1) - Palmar
deconduo (1) - Fishball
chaoser (3) - BloodyC0bbler, sandroba, Radfield

Not voting yet - Caller, Scamp, deconduo, ilovejohn, LSB, Amber[Light], RebirthofLegend, Chezinu, Jackal58, Chaoser

Day 1 ends on Wednesday June 29th @ 12AM ET/13:00 KST

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

June 28 2011 12:21 GMT

#302

FYI I unvoted fishball

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=235762&currentpage=13#249

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 28 2011 12:24 GMT

#303

On June 28 2011 20:37 deconduo wrote:

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Its no flip brah.

And what has that got to do with anything?

There is very likely a coroner role of some sorts anwyay.

That's not the problem, I want you to stop trying to hide behind "I think he's green, but he should be shot anyway" or "he's either mafia or bad town".

I want you to tell us who is scum. I think a wise man once said "If you can't convince yourself, how are you going to convince anyone else?".

Kurumi, start contributing.

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

June 28 2011 12:37 GMT

#304

I have two trains of thought going on at the moment:

-Fishball is mafia. Mafia are scared that I'm going to kill him so they are trying to get me lynched. I would put Fishball, BC, Kurumi as scum. Other possible suspects are Palmar, Jackal, Chezinu. Radfield, LSB are probably town.

-Fishball is town. Mafia are just lurking away happy at the fact that nothing is going on. Chaoser, ILJ, sandroba would be my biggest suspects. Radfield, BC, Caller (*sigh*), probably town.

If you put a gun to my head, given how the game has played out so far, my gut says option number 2 right now.

If you want me to say something like Fishball is 100% town or 100% mafia, don't be dumb. Its day 1, theres not exactly a lot to go on. I don't know anything for certain. I do know that Fishball has been pretty unhelpful so far. When he was asked nicely to step up his game he refused. When he was threatened to step up his game he refused. As such, unless a better target presents itself, I'm shooting him tonight.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 28 2011 12:41 GMT

#305

On June 28 2011 21:37 deconduo wrote:
I have two trains of thought going on at the moment:

-Fishball is mafia. Mafia are scared that I'm going to kill him so they are trying to get me lynched. I would put Fishball, BC, Kurumi as scum. Other possible suspects are Palmar, Jackal, Chezinu. Radfield, LSB are probably town.

-Fishball is town. Mafia are just lurking away happy at the fact that nothing is going on. Chaoser, ILJ, sandroba would be my biggest suspects. Radfield, BC, Caller (*sigh*), probably town.

If you put a gun to my head, given how the game has played out so far, my gut says option number 2 right now.

If you want me to say something like Fishball is 100% town or 100% mafia, don't be dumb. Its day 1, theres not exactly a lot to go on. I don't know anything for certain. I do know that Fishball has been pretty unhelpful so far. When he was asked nicely to step up his game he refused. When he was threatened to step up his game he refused. As such, unless a better target presents itself, I'm shooting him tonight.

Well, if you want to shoot someone, shoot him because you think he's scum. Everyone knows that there is a chance you're wrong, but being wrong isn't a crime, being afraid of being wrong is much worse.

And sure, if the town doesn't want to lynch you, then far be it from me to direct your shots. I just hope you're making educated decisions and not OMGUS shooting.

Kurumi

Poland6130 Posts

June 28 2011 12:43 GMT

#306

You were die hard on Fishball,now betting him as town.. Yeah.

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

June 28 2011 12:46 GMT

#307

If I was to shoot someone because I think they are scum, I'd probably shoot BC. However he has been contributing, playing well, and is useful. I just think he's scummy. However if he is town thats a much bigger loss than Fishball.

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

June 28 2011 12:46 GMT

#308

On June 28 2011 21:43 Kurumi wrote:

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You were die hard on Fishball,now betting him as town.. Yeah.

Please find one post of mine where I said Fishball is mafia. Useless is not the same as scummy, though ultimately both are anti-town.

Amber[LighT]

United States5078 Posts

June 28 2011 12:56 GMT

#309

On June 28 2011 21:37 deconduo wrote:
I have two trains of thought going on at the moment:

-Fishball is mafia. Mafia are scared that I'm going to kill him so they are trying to get me lynched. I would put Fishball, BC, Kurumi as scum. Other possible suspects are Palmar, Jackal, Chezinu. Radfield, LSB are probably town.

-Fishball is town. Mafia are just lurking away happy at the fact that nothing is going on. Chaoser, ILJ, sandroba would be my biggest suspects. Radfield, BC, Caller (*sigh*), probably town.

If you put a gun to my head, given how the game has played out so far, my gut says option number 2 right now.

If you want me to say something like Fishball is 100% town or 100% mafia, don't be dumb. Its day 1, theres not exactly a lot to go on. I don't know anything for certain. I do know that Fishball has been pretty unhelpful so far. When he was asked nicely to step up his game he refused. When he was threatened to step up his game he refused. As such, unless a better target presents itself, I'm shooting him tonight.

No you're not.

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Caller

Poland8075 Posts

June 28 2011 12:56 GMT

#310

vote ##LSB

you backstabbing traitorous scum
c'mere you

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 28 2011 12:56 GMT

#311

Hi, I want to write a little piece on the most helpful player in town. He thinks he's Ace, but he isn't. Also, he's bad. And he's scum.

On June 26 2011 07:23 Kurumi wrote:
Assuming we have Coroner type role should it target lynched people or night kills so we know how many blues or townies died ? Should vigi kills have the same priority as lynches ? Id like to avoid viging anyone though ,unless we are dead sure someone's scum .

No, you're bad. Vigis should absolutely be shooting.

On June 26 2011 08:05 Kurumi wrote:
It is just Fishball, just give him time to get running ! Either way I dont see a huge and strong case against him just yet,nothing crucial was told to be honest. It is just like lynching Chezinu based on meta.

I don't care if he's always like this. If he's that good at mafia as half of you seem to believe, it's his responsibility to step up and try to help lead the town to victory. There's nothing more annoying than townies who bask in their ignorance and believe they're somehow too good to try their best.

On June 27 2011 19:33 Kurumi wrote:
GGQ was killed because he is lucky when it comes to being mafia,gg vigilante.

Nice analysis, only someone like you could honestly think such bullshit, but no worries, you can just hide behind the fact that "you're trolling".

Oh wait, that's bad for town too.

On June 27 2011 19:55 Kurumi wrote:
RoL,Ace stated that Mafia with 2KP would be too strong in this setup so I think it is either real Vigilante or Third Party Planar Dragon.

Thanks for telling us the rules

On June 27 2011 22:00 Kurumi wrote:
##Vote Hesmyrr

Good pressure

On June 27 2011 22:57 Kurumi wrote:
LSB,why the heck are You discussing night hits when we don't know shit,why do You suspect Caller killing GGQ? I know there are people with motive to kill GGQ,but betting it on Caller just because is dumb. I think we should leave Night hits for now.

If you know something that the town doesnt, care to share?

On June 27 2011 23:46 Kurumi wrote:

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come at me bro

Feed other trolls, nice.

On June 28 2011 02:53 Kurumi wrote:
I will continue herping derping till something worth a while comes or two men in black come to my house.

ok, so you're not only being deliberately bad, but you're also refusing to try to help. There's nothing to it but scum.

Can we just shoot him yet?

Kurumi

Poland6130 Posts

June 28 2011 13:02 GMT

#312

Palmar,call a hit on Caller then I will start caring about Your worthless post-by-post "analysis". Trying to get rid of "weak" townie? Caller is bigger fish,too big for Your scummy mouth to swallow. I won't get lynched myself Day 1 like in XXXIX,in this game I will defend myself and bring town scum to lynch.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 28 2011 13:07 GMT

#313

On June 28 2011 22:02 Kurumi wrote:
Palmar,call a hit on Caller then I will start caring about Your worthless post-by-post "analysis". Trying to get rid of "weak" townie? Caller is bigger fish,too big for Your scummy mouth to swallow. I won't get lynched myself Day 1 like in XXXIX,in this game I will defend myself and bring town scum to lynch.

How about you start doing that then.

Cool, go write me something on caller, he's a troll.

But honestly, is your town play "nah it's fine that I don't contribute and troll, cause someone else is doing it too/more".

Is that it?

Cause y'know, your goal isn't being "not the worst townie" but rather being "the best townie you can be".

Kurumi

Poland6130 Posts

June 28 2011 13:09 GMT

#314

Palmar,You were the guy who said mass shooting is acceptable in this game. It is not.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 28 2011 13:11 GMT

#315

On June 28 2011 22:09 Kurumi wrote:
Palmar,You were the guy who said mass shooting is acceptable in this game. It is not.

It is.

Kurumi

Poland6130 Posts

June 28 2011 13:13 GMT

#316

On June 28 2011 22:11 Palmar wrote:

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It is.

I forgot for a while You're scum,sorry.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 28 2011 13:20 GMT

#317

On June 28 2011 22:13 Kurumi wrote:

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I forgot for a while You're scum,sorry.

I probably shouldn't bother trying to explain this to you, but some of the vigs might read this and actually get the idea.

assume a hypothetical situation, 7town vs 2mafia.

assume worst case scenario, town mislynches every time. there is a vigi in game.

cycle 1 7v2

lynch (can hit town or mafia)
maf kill (can only hit town

cycle 2 5v2

lynch (can hit town or mafia)
maf kill (can only hit town)

cycle 3 3v2

lynch (can hit town or mafia)

Game over.

In this scenario, three out of the 5 kills it takes to end the game, were town sided kills. Now let's assume we have a batshit insane compulsive vigilante.

cycle 1 7v2

lynch (can hit town or mafia)
vig shot (can hit town or mafia, but not vigilante)
maf kill (can only hit town)

cycle 2 4v2

lync (can hit town or mafia)
vig shot (can hit town or mafia, but not vigilante)

Game over.

In this scenario, the town gets 4 of the 5 kills it takes to end the game.

Vigilantes should be shooting the first night, and every night there after, especially in a game where we don't know the role-setup and the flips don't mean anything, so any clever mafia is just going to keep random distance between all it's members.