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from our op
Framer
Once per night, you may send in a PM detailing a person you would like framed. When framing somebody, you can make them show up as any role that you would like to Detective checks. You may not frame the same person twice. You cannot frame yourself.
So the framer is not changing red / green but changing roles this game. Makes sense I guess.
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On January 21 2012 10:11 jaj22 wrote:
Hmm. That wouldn't be the first mistake in the OP.
Does the detective get the role, the alignment or both in this game?
It comes with a role and a colour.
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On January 21 2012 10:15 Toadesstern wrote:
ok I take everything back. The problem is framers and millers
millers. yes. framers, pretty unlikely. would be a hero framer...
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WBG I want to lynch you bro! You wanna fight about it?
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On January 21 2012 10:17 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 10:11 jaj22 wrote:
Hmm. That wouldn't be the first mistake in the OP.
Does the detective get the role, the alignment or both in this game?
It comes with a role and a colour.
So what he said is possible because a mafia framer could make a mafia goon show up as a VT instead for example right? And a miller would show up as a mafia goon as well I guess?
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what's sandrobas role, hiro?
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Let's wait for flamewheel to confirm. Nice catch toad. If that's true that's a damn baller move of scum.
My stance on mad hatter getting elected. Spoilered because I don't want to debate it "right now".
+ Show Spoiler +No, I will under no circumstances accept that it is good for a mad hatter to get elected. Optimally as a mad hatter you would want to plant your bombs one 2 people (with some regard to veterans) whos flips will provide the most information and then preferably get killed by the mafia night 2/3 so the town can get more information and nail the lynches.
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Indeed, what is Sandrobas role Hiro?
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who else have you checked hiro?
I'm going out, I'll be back in an hour or so.
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On January 21 2012 10:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
WBG I want to lynch you bro! You wanna fight about it?
Nah, waste of my time.
I'm willing to lynch sandro, if he comes up anything but red we lynch hiro right after, especially because hiro has been playing quite out of his normal character. Of course, I doubt he'd have the balls to claim like this as scum, but it's still worth something.
##unvote Toadesstern
##vote Sandroba
As for the other one, someone needs to explain why we are not killing BM and who we are killing instead. Otherwise, my vote is going to stay on him. I don't just like keeping people around because they blue claimed.
Also, the blue claim didn't make much sense for me because a mad hatter wouldn't want to be in office unless he intended on getting himself lynched. A mad hatter is one of the hardest roles to play; you play to get yourself shot by scum, and if you're in office that's impossible.
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United States13896 Posts
On January 21 2012 10:16 Toadesstern wrote:from our op Show nested quote +Framer
Once per night, you may send in a PM detailing a person you would like framed. When framing somebody, you can make them show up as any role that you would like to Detective checks. You may not frame the same person twice. You cannot frame yourself. So the framer is not changing red / green but changing roles this game. Makes sense I guess.
I just played a game with the same rules where I was dt. Framer can alter both the role and the alignment of his target. He can make a green townie look like a Mafia Roleblocker and vice versa.
Millers just make the person show up as a Mafia Goon.
Hiro you've been a very green read for me all game and I trust what you are saying but I am still wary of miller/framer possibilities. Information on what his exact role was would be helpful.
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On January 21 2012 10:26 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 10:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
WBG I want to lynch you bro! You wanna fight about it? Nah, waste of my time. I'm willing to lynch sandro, if he comes up anything but red we lynch hiro right after, especially because hiro has been playing quite out of his normal character. Of course, I doubt he'd have the balls to claim like this as scum, but it's still worth something. ##unvote Toadesstern
##vote SandrobaAs for the other one, someone needs to explain why we are not killing BM and who we are killing instead. Otherwise, my vote is going to stay on him. I don't just like keeping people around because they blue claimed. Also, the blue claim didn't make much sense for me because a mad hatter wouldn't want to be in office unless he intended on getting himself lynched. A mad hatter is one of the hardest roles to play; you play to get yourself shot by scum, and if you're in office that's impossible.
BM claimed hatter and has a bomb on protact. This actually makes some sense because according to a list BM did day1 protact was first on his "DIEDIEDIE" list.
We don't want to risk loosing protact, give him 1 or 2 days to replace bombs and rethink everything by then.
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So we are ok with lynching sandroba the townie and not meapak the scum? And we are jumping off BM? Not if I can help it. BM and kingjames are extremely reasonable lynch choices, but sandroba instead of BM sounds like scum work. I'm especially surprised at Protact. It seems like extremely selfish to just stop lynching someone because they say they have a bomb on you. I would like an actually good reason to take my vote off of BM aside from the off chance that you would die. I have had very little doubt that BM was scum this game even after all the votes piled on to him. But protact's stunt has me guessing. I'd like thoughts on this, because I'm not sure if it's better to actual lynch BM and call him out on this, or to not lynch him because he has a strong likelyhood of being town. DO NOT LYNCH SANDROBA.
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Also nothing BM does makes any damn sense, so while it's true by normal playing standards that he shouldn't have been campaigning for mayor, it's not a strong argument here.
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United States13896 Posts
Yeah bum I think you missed a recent development.
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On January 21 2012 10:18 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 10:17 flamewheel wrote:On January 21 2012 10:11 jaj22 wrote:
Hmm. That wouldn't be the first mistake in the OP.
Does the detective get the role, the alignment or both in this game?
It comes with a role and a colour. So what he said is possible because a mafia framer could make a mafia goon show up as a VT instead for example right? And a miller would show up as a mafia goon as well I guess?
Yes to both.
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Yeah I just saw that :/ well I can't really argue against that. If sandroba's scum well then good, but if he's town I TOLD YOU SO.
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Alright, so if we're wrong about BM we lose two townies. I can understand the sentiment now I suppose. However, if any of these people flip town we need to kill BM tomorrow at all costs.
##unvote Bill Murray
##vote kingjames01
Let's see what kingjames flips, since there isn't enough time for a new case. I'd like to see sandro flip as well.
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every time pretty much caught up something gets in the way oh what fun.
On January 21 2012 09:12 Toadesstern wrote:
you are allowed to posts vote lists outside the vote thread. So what you did is np even if it's wrong p4N (did not check).
Also BM you said early on that you trust me to be town right? I won't say I trust risk to be town but I don't think he's scum.
What about a bomb on evantrees?
Waste of a bomb, but I find it hilarious. Then I would have to try and defend BM's nonsense if I think he's town.
Is one more reason to finally get around to going through toads filter again though, there's one damned comment in there somewhere that was bugging me.
On January 21 2012 09:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ok we're not going to lynch BM. The risk of him being hatter is way to high. Protact is probably the most valuable asset town has at the moment, there's no point putting that in jeoprody. Here's what's going to happen. BM moves him bomb tonight to Bum or BrownBear. we vote DL tomorrow and tomorrow night BM puts his other bomb on whichever person he hadn't previously. Then we lynch BM. This utilizes BM's role properly, and it also gives a set date for BM to die so he won't just get away from this if he's scum.
People seriously need to get off BM now.
I rather like this plan, targets and exact time maybe up for debate however.
On January 21 2012 10:09 Toadesstern wrote:wat? Show nested quote +Detective
You have the ability to make night investigations. Once per night phase, you may PM me to ask for the role of one player. you get the ROLE according to our op oO
nothing new there OP has had a few problems, mostly just been ignored. I assume supposed to give alignment otherwise would be close to as weak as the masons no?
Ok Hiro.
##vote Sandroba
##vote kingjames01
If KJ flips town lets consider lynching BC at some point. Till then sorry and I don't want to see a BM lynch today, not completely convinced on GGQ case.
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United States13896 Posts
I really think it is far fetched that hiro is mafia. If he is they have been keeping this as a back up from the very beginning and I find that unlikely. He voted and made very firm posts against sandroba starting the night after he investigated him. He wasted absolutely no time today to put his vote on him today. Very unlikely they foresaw this scenario imo.
fuuuu why did he have to run to work without saying his role though T-T
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