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On January 21 2012 10:57 p4NDemik wrote:
Toad it seems pretty clear to me he had just missed reading the new post. He reference's Protact's gambit but has nothing about this dt news. Mafia wouldn't ignore this.
I am very well aware of that fact. Still if sandroba flips red there's bound to be a couple of mafias that are not willing to lynch sandroba. But there's no good in discussing this right now. I should not have brought it up at all, I just wanted to make sure you guys all look at stuff like that and try to take notes of who is and especially WAS voting who. That's going to be crucial information after the flip.
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come on VE. We're VET-buddies, aren't we? I stopped taking notes d2 and only read the thread instead of actively analyzing myself because I was quite pissed that I got ignored like that, but that's what vet's thend to do with us noobies because they don't trust us.
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VE you still had 24 hours left to do something with that, and aw logs are amusing.
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On January 21 2012 11:15 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 10:57 p4NDemik wrote:
Toad it seems pretty clear to me he had just missed reading the new post. He reference's Protact's gambit but has nothing about this dt news. Mafia wouldn't ignore this. I am very well aware of that fact. Still if sandroba flips red there's bound to be a couple of mafias that are not willing to lynch sandroba. But there's no good in discussing this right now. I should not have brought it up at all, I just wanted to make sure you guys all look at stuff like that and try to take notes of who is and especially WAS voting who. That's going to be crucial information after the flip.
Meh I think it's worth saying, I really think sandroba would have been a much more serious mafia. If he's mafia, I'll take whatever FoS comes with that. I just think jumping on to him from BM speaks volumes about our town.
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VE sorry that you are getting lost in the shuffle but you have to keep it in check you aren't building credibility by going nuclear here, just look at kingjames for an example of what that kind of posting gets you.
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On January 21 2012 11:23 p4NDemik wrote:
VE sorry that you are getting lost in the shuffle but you have to keep it in check you aren't building credibility by going nuclear here, just look at kingjames for an example of what that kind of posting gets you.
Mhmm... /stinkeye
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if sandroba doesn't vote today is he a mod-kill? I just noticed he hasn't voted =/
i really hope he a) isn't somehow town, and b) town that was going to be mod-killed anyways
fuck me this sucks i wanna know already
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Oh yeah, I was going to get ignored about that too - but Sandroba is today's lynch in spite of the fact that he's going to get modkilled anyway - effectively rendering our double-lynch today completely worthless...the vets kinda didn't mention that.
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Whatever I'm exhausted I don't want to think about the possible negative ramifications T-T there has been a lot of good stuff to come out of today even if he isn't red we aren't empty handed
if kingjames isn't red I really am going to have a wtf moment though
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that's actually a valid point.
However I don't think we got an alternative. We can't lynch BM with what happened, can we? If sandroba gets modkilled we still get a lot of information, about hiro, about all the 3 vets that got us on sandroba and he if we're going to unvite he might last minute vote. Of course we could still just lynch him the next day but I don't really see something we could change.
If we unvote sandroba BM get's lynched.
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i think our window is passed to get bm out. there is too little time and this isn't a game where we have stuff like irc at our disposal to rally quick support and switch votes. its sandroba through and through now unfortunately. fuck.
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Change back to BM. Sandro being modkilled makes it an easy decision.
Short of that, Chaosquo?
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On January 21 2012 11:45 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Change back to BM. Sandro being modkilled makes it an easy decision.
Short of that, Chaosquo?
Oh derp. Suggests a modkill victim to replace another...
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GGQ/Kingjames seems like your option if you dont want BM/Sandro lynched
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Yeah this is all too pointless. I'm putting my vote back on Bill Murray. I still think his defense is bs. The claim changes nothing if sandro is going to be a mod kill.
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Yeah, I'm beyond caring. I'm not unvoting because I think Sandroba is scum, and I'm not unvoting BM because I think BM is scum. Period. I couldn't care less that he claimed MH, because I think he's scum, I think he's lying. Anyone who isn't voting BM because he claimed MH with a bomb on Protact needs to check their priorities. We're not in the business of keeping townies alive, we're in the business of killing scum.
No one finds it strange that Protact chose TODAY to push Sandroba? Why not yesterday? Sandroba is an actual threat if he's scum, and if Protact really thought he was scum based on his D1 posting, his D2 posting should have made him even more suspicious. Why would Macpo need to die BEFORE Sandroba? WHY? That doesn't make any sense.
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On January 21 2012 11:08 p4NDemik wrote:
Is using my mod ability to open "All" pages of this thread something that I can't do? Regular users don't have the ability but I don't think this is anything abusive
All you need is autopager and some lines.
I noticed sandroba came up red. He's dead though, so i'll leave my votes where they are.
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Anybody that's on Sandroba is helping to waste our lynches 
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Don't waste your double vote guys. In the back and forth arguments we have lost sight that this entire witch hunt is pointless atm.
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So, this time, I'm going to vote for sandroba, and bill murray.
Here's why BM
On January 18 2012 19:02 Bill Murray wrote:
GG scum
we lynch Protactinium and BC tomorrow and we are guaranteed 1 scum, bringing their KP down
starting after my last analysis of him, we have this post.
not much analysis here, I just think it's pretty funny.
It's a point that he keeps asserting that one of the candidates had to be scum, but he never mentions that it's actually him.
He's just getting greedy trying to get them both lynched.
On January 19 2012 14:11 Bill Murray wrote:
I didn't get to send in anything last night, and I'm like 80 pages behind on reading
I don't mind being lynched
I've failed you all as a Sheriff
good to know, And I agree with you, you HAVE failed us.
On January 19 2012 14:20 Bill Murray wrote:
sorry to spam, guys, but my GF is here so I won't be able to be back on any more tonight
I wish you all the best if you lynch me, GG, and I hope you all lynch the right one between BC and Protactinium, unless mafia didn't run for election, and something weird is going on like Foolishness pushing on the best scumhunters at random intervals like I did in Hesmyrr's mini theme.
again, he seems convinced here that he's going to die, and doesn't mind it. The situation doesn't look good for mafia, and he's very resigned in his posting after last night when GF died, and only 2 mafia shots hit.
On January 19 2012 14:33 Bill Murray wrote:
I agree with KingJames
The mafia are making moves on scumhunters. This is either BC, Foolishness, or Incognito's handywork. I am not going to sit by and watch this happen. I know 4 people who I believe to be town due to role related information. Take that as you will. I really don't need to be dying today.
I don't think mafia subbed BGs, or I'd be dead, and they wouldn't be wasting their time lynching me. I'm a jailkeeper to them at the least, and dangerous, as I am a protown power role even if I don't have another role.
However, I actually HAVE another role.
I am a Mad Hatter, but I only have one bomb out. You all need to allow me at least tonight so that I can get maximum utility out of my role. Thanks. I'll be on tomorrow.
This is just sad. He's so desperate, he doesn't know what to do. It took him this long to think of an idea that might not get him lynched, and just said it. No crumbing or anything. Pleading isn't going to make me believe, especially after his previous posts when he was so resigned.
On January 20 2012 10:48 Bill Murray wrote:
I've got to vote kingjames, even if I have a townslip from him;
I KNOW I'm a mad hatter, he could be a townie
sandroba needs rope really badly
My one bomb is on Protactinium, so when I'm lynched, I guess he's coming with me
My Night 1 was jailing Lanaia, and then I was going to fake that I "derped" on the next 2 nights
Why else would I jailkeep N1? It was a bad idea in retrospect, but I thought I would either die N1 if BC was mafia, or I would have until BrownBear and Kitaman were alive.
Cwave masoned me yesterday
Jitsu masoned me yesterday
one of BC or OpZ are probably mafia
GG guys I'm dead in an hour if you all don't unvote and there goes the sheriff
As stated before, protac seems like the most town to me, and even BM says he thinks BC is scum, so even if he is hatter (which he's not) He's not trying to kill scum, he's doing the most scummy thing imaginable: he's taking hostages so we don't lynch him. Well no he's not, there's no way he's actually a hatter, he just saw a chance at surviving and is taking it.
On January 20 2012 18:14 Bill Murray wrote:
I am going to be reading after GSL, and I live in the Eastern time zone. This should prove to you all how much I want the Teamliquid town to improve. It takes individual growth for us to grow as a team.
I'm not 100% sure what to make of this... Aparently, GSL fan = townie? Somehow, I imagine that the mafia can be a fan of StarCraft 2 also...
Or is he claiming he's town because he plans on eventually reading the thread? Does that help his individual growth?
I'm probably looking into this too much, and he was just drunk or something, but it genuinely confuses me what he meant.
On January 21 2012 07:17 Bill Murray wrote:
First off, I'm going to throw out a disclaimer that self meta is generally worthless. However, I am the king of self meta, for what it is worth. As the mafia GF, when Incognito (he is playing on the name Protactinium) was on my team, I really slipped into obscurity, but I was actually VERY active out of the thread. It's the same when I was an assassin and killed BloodyC0bbler as he killed me, causing no assassins to win whatsoever, and I was out of the thread entirely. I have been posting in the thread on d2 and d3, though. When I'm mafia, if I'm going into lurking mode, I post way less frequently than I'm posting - sorry for the WIFOM - but it's true.
I know people change, trust me on that, but how can we grow as a town unless you all let me help you? I have not one, but TWO abilities for the town, and you all are thinking of canning me? Why'd you elect me?
I'll tell you why I don't want to lynch kingjames. The game I was looking into the other day where he was endgamed and Jackal was scum is very similar to this one, and he was a townie in that one.
I know this is a big topic, but changing styles from game to game is very easy, especially when you define posting style as how often you post. I'm guessing this has been discussed tons of times before, but especially in this case, where he's pointing out the difference.
Also, I'm confused as to why he's voting kingjames if he keeps saying he's town.
Then he has a bunch of posts about his plans as hatter. It really is convienent, It's a roly that makes him sound not worthless, yet is inconfirmable be everyone. Kudos to him for thinking of it, and shame on anyone for believing it.
Doing sandroba next.
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