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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 07 2013 21:46 GMT
#3021
Wait a tic. Is any part of that quoted post YOUR defense? Seems like it's you who's talking although the footer and header suggest it's all Vivax. I wouldn't mind reading it again with some proper formatting.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 07 2013 21:46 GMT
#3022
On January 08 2013 06:44 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 06:42 yamato77 wrote:
On January 08 2013 06:39 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Debears I think all your hatred of Vivax is reactionary

To expand upon this, the reason I wanted to lynch him in YANMM where he flipped SK was because he was playing a very OMGUSy game. This, again, does not look like town debears.


Yamato, you still do not know my meta at all. Please stop acting like you do. Do you want me to point out all the times I've OMGUS'd in my town games?

Last game you played like this you flipped SK bro.

Lynch the scum, don't OMGUS people who are townies. Neither Vivax or LM looks scummy to me.
Writer@WriterYamato
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 07 2013 21:46 GMT
#3023
On January 08 2013 06:36 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 06:32 Djodref wrote:
On January 08 2013 06:27 debears wrote:
Djo

The strongest part of your Hiro case is the fact that he hasn't contributed. The rest is eh and can be done by town or mafia

However, his recent list of reads is intriguing


@ debears

Why did you sheep Palmar's case on marv over your case on Tunkeg D1 ?
What do you think of Prom right now ?


I was shut down hard by multiple vets including marv and WBG. Marv's reaction to my case on Tunkeg was not what I expected of town Marv either. Palmar's thoughts reflected those of my own

Prom is more active than Tun, but he hasn't done much. I'd rather keep him alive for now and see what he does


So, you somehow trusted marv's judgement on Tunkeg, while his reaction was not supposed to be town marv's reaction.
What was your read on wbg at that time and why ?
What did they say exactly that made you 'shut down our case' ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 07 2013 21:47 GMT
#3024
@ Prox

If you are around, I would like to know what you think of debears
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 07 2013 21:48 GMT
#3025
On January 08 2013 06:45 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 06:37 debears wrote:
On January 08 2013 06:36 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 08 2013 06:19 debears wrote:
So, to rehash why Vivax may be scum in short terms

1) his unexplained town read of tun/prom
2) Taking my quotes out of context
3) misrepresenting me with those quotes
4) Being unreasonable
Point 2 and 3 are not alignment indicative. Point 4 is just... Lol. Point 1 is plain wrong btw.
The Tunkeg wagon is stupid.
You should read him in Hero Mini Mafia, he got mislynched as veteran, dropping a retarded battle poem before his death. I highly doubt a mafia Tunkeg would be THIS identical to his town meta in another game.

The analogies live up again. He comes in with a huge, scummy post of rather summarizing nature, to start fighting against everyone and anyone finding him scummy for it, just to disappear again when shit hits the fan. Shortly before lynch he comes in with some martyr post, trying to look epic while being lynched and fed to the pigs for being a dicks.


Saying someone is town because they look scummy is a fucking retarded defense and reasoning for a strong townread
It might be the case but.
1. You claimed there was no reason for him to have said that Tunkeg was town when it is in fact not true.
2. He may be retarded : ). And that is not alignment indicative.

I obviously cannot speak for Vivax on this. I just find your reasons for thinking he is scum is flawed.


That is not a reason in my book. His play is too bad to be town
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 07 2013 21:50 GMT
#3026
On January 08 2013 06:46 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 06:44 debears wrote:
On January 08 2013 06:42 yamato77 wrote:
On January 08 2013 06:39 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Debears I think all your hatred of Vivax is reactionary

To expand upon this, the reason I wanted to lynch him in YANMM where he flipped SK was because he was playing a very OMGUSy game. This, again, does not look like town debears.


Yamato, you still do not know my meta at all. Please stop acting like you do. Do you want me to point out all the times I've OMGUS'd in my town games?

Last game you played like this you flipped SK bro.

Lynch the scum, don't OMGUS people who are townies. Neither Vivax or LM looks scummy to me.


Why
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 07 2013 21:50 GMT
#3027
On January 08 2013 06:48 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 06:45 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 08 2013 06:37 debears wrote:
On January 08 2013 06:36 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 08 2013 06:19 debears wrote:
So, to rehash why Vivax may be scum in short terms

1) his unexplained town read of tun/prom
2) Taking my quotes out of context
3) misrepresenting me with those quotes
4) Being unreasonable
Point 2 and 3 are not alignment indicative. Point 4 is just... Lol. Point 1 is plain wrong btw.
The Tunkeg wagon is stupid.
You should read him in Hero Mini Mafia, he got mislynched as veteran, dropping a retarded battle poem before his death. I highly doubt a mafia Tunkeg would be THIS identical to his town meta in another game.

The analogies live up again. He comes in with a huge, scummy post of rather summarizing nature, to start fighting against everyone and anyone finding him scummy for it, just to disappear again when shit hits the fan. Shortly before lynch he comes in with some martyr post, trying to look epic while being lynched and fed to the pigs for being a dicks.


Saying someone is town because they look scummy is a fucking retarded defense and reasoning for a strong townread
It might be the case but.
1. You claimed there was no reason for him to have said that Tunkeg was town when it is in fact not true.
2. He may be retarded : ). And that is not alignment indicative.

I obviously cannot speak for Vivax on this. I just find your reasons for thinking he is scum is flawed.


That is not a reason in my book. His play is too bad to be town

WORST
REASON
EVER
LOL
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 07 2013 21:52 GMT
#3028
On January 08 2013 06:50 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 06:46 yamato77 wrote:
On January 08 2013 06:44 debears wrote:
On January 08 2013 06:42 yamato77 wrote:
On January 08 2013 06:39 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Debears I think all your hatred of Vivax is reactionary

To expand upon this, the reason I wanted to lynch him in YANMM where he flipped SK was because he was playing a very OMGUSy game. This, again, does not look like town debears.


Yamato, you still do not know my meta at all. Please stop acting like you do. Do you want me to point out all the times I've OMGUS'd in my town games?

Last game you played like this you flipped SK bro.

Lynch the scum, don't OMGUS people who are townies. Neither Vivax or LM looks scummy to me.


Why

Both of them are active and invested in figuring the game out. The fact that they land upon you as a scum read just as I do is not surprising debears.
Writer@WriterYamato
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 07 2013 22:00 GMT
#3029
Night 2


So today we had two of the students die while trying to fulfil their basic needs, one of them bringing incriminating evidence concerning one of their colleagues - Jackal58. So guess who needed to kill himself today? Well, it was Jackal58. Was wherebugsgo right? Well yeah.
I don't sound enthusiastic enough, do I?
Well, that's because I'd like to pee.
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Jackal58 the Barble Bapkins was chosen as the least truthful.
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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 07 2013 22:03 GMT
#3030
Thank you Bugs <3

Meapak, logs immediately.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 07 2013 22:03 GMT
#3031
On January 08 2013 06:39 debears wrote:
Laser read the big wall of text I wrote and show me how he is reasonable

Taking quotes out of context and misrepresenting someone with them is more likely scum than town, since if you assume they are town, you assume that person is just flat fucking bad
There are bad parts of the case. But you basically haven't been scum hunting much at all. You don't really push your suspects hard. You seemed very uninterested in the lynch, which evev according to yourself is a scum trait.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 07 2013 22:03 GMT
#3032
Or Meapak's mason-partner could provide them, I don't care.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 07 2013 22:06 GMT
#3033


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fuck yeaaaaaa
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 07 2013 22:07 GMT
#3034
WBG, you so silly ; )
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 22:09:11
January 07 2013 22:09 GMT
#3035
On January 08 2013 07:06 wherebugsgo wrote:


+ Show Spoiler +
fuck yeaaaaaa

NO POPCORN!!!!!!!!!
Please
We get things like people commenting on those
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 07 2013 22:10 GMT
#3036
^^
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22064 Posts
January 07 2013 22:12 GMT
#3037
On January 08 2013 03:52 iamperfection wrote:
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On January 08 2013 03:21 Vivax wrote:
On January 07 2013 23:36 iamperfection wrote:
does anyone agree with me on foolishness?


First of all, I think it's too early for you to make a connection cases between CC and him. I wouldn't expect CCs flip to be alignment indicative of the people attacking him.
I don't agree with Foolishs' read on CC, Palmar said that town Foolishness posts very good reads. He posted a read that doesn't include CCs scum game, instead just two town games, although the posting frequency argument holds.
But I would expect someone renowned like Foolish to double check his reads better and include CCs scum game like I did.
2 pages of filter is pretty sad for such a renowned town player, but according to Palmar that's the vets' style.
Until we see more, Fool is null for me.

Now, Palmar agrees with him on CC without noticing that he didn't post all of meta.
I actually can't trust Palmar on anything he says anymore since he's playing on his own and trolling the shit out of us, and giving him cred for posting that list is shit cause mafia know who's town anyway, so he's always going to step onto the right feet.

Palmar is currently among the bad boys for me, although he would have fooled us like a boss with his irc chat. He looks quite sincere in his interactions with iamp.

I believe that we should pull Toad out of his comfort zone and let him know that we're going to stalk his posts. Such a talkative player shouldn't be silent in this phase.
Same for grush, Djo, thrawn, froggy, MZ, Sentinel.
Djo started singing like a rockstar when he had enough votes poking his ass in Hero MM

@Iamp

Did Palmar invite you first to his irc domain or did you ask for a live chat system?

I think you need to reread my point on foolishness i said the opposite with regards to him and CC.

I messaged palmar on irc because why not


Yeah I misread your stuff about Foolish <_< . I remember to have read something from you like "If CC flips scum Foolish is scum", but I'm a bit jumpy and distracted today , maybe someone else wrote that.

@ debears

Debears, I know that you want me to spout town reads (about Tunkeg/Prom), but I'd prefer if you actually brought up reasons why you think that Tunkeg/Prom is scum if you think that my read isn't correct.

After all you forgot to mention my last line in my post against you, where I point out that your interest into them dropped to 0 quickly since the replacement, but the player behind it should still be scum for you. That is another point in your disfavour in regard to your pursuit of a Tunkeg lynch.

I will look with more detail into your defence however.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
January 07 2013 22:13 GMT
#3038
I was masoned to foolishness for a day although my guess is intelligent people already knew that. You'll get logs after I discuss things with supersoft.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 07 2013 22:14 GMT
#3039
On January 08 2013 06:46 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 06:36 debears wrote:
On January 08 2013 06:32 Djodref wrote:
On January 08 2013 06:27 debears wrote:
Djo

The strongest part of your Hiro case is the fact that he hasn't contributed. The rest is eh and can be done by town or mafia

However, his recent list of reads is intriguing


@ debears

Why did you sheep Palmar's case on marv over your case on Tunkeg D1 ?
What do you think of Prom right now ?


I was shut down hard by multiple vets including marv and WBG. Marv's reaction to my case on Tunkeg was not what I expected of town Marv either. Palmar's thoughts reflected those of my own

Prom is more active than Tun, but he hasn't done much. I'd rather keep him alive for now and see what he does


So, you somehow trusted marv's judgement on Tunkeg, while his reaction was not supposed to be town marv's reaction.
What was your read on wbg at that time and why ?
What did they say exactly that made you 'shut down our case' ?


@ debears

In addition to the following questions, could you tell me what you think about thrawn ?
What do you think about the fact that he posted a case against me directly after you started to cast suspicion upon me ?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 07 2013 22:15 GMT
#3040
On January 08 2013 07:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I was masoned to foolishness for a day although my guess is intelligent people already knew that. You'll get logs after I discuss things with supersoft.
Now this is interesting...
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