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On January 08 2013 06:15 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 05:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On January 08 2013 05:45 Lazermonkey wrote:
How is Prom town Hiro? He hasn't done shit this game but calling everyone retarded for no reason. This. I've still got him labelled as scum because ever since I called him out he hasn't made a concrete case on anyone. Maybe one paragraph in any direction and nothing to say "this person is 100% scum and you should all lynch him at your earliest convenience" If I had a gun to my head right now and was told to pick three lynch targets I would get Jackal, Prom and probably Palmar since in the end everyone he builds a case against flips blue.Time to get my spreadsheet going. Even if Palmar is scum, there would be no way for him to know that they are blue. they couldn't have used day cop because of KP limit. TBH, I think its crazy that people are willing to lynch Palmar just because he was pushing BC and Marv. Unless someone actually shows me that Palmar have a 100% scum hit ratio as town, I will treat this ''Palmar is never wrong as town, thus he is scum'' as total BS. 25/30 players in the game did vote for BC or Palmar and a handfull of those thought both were scum. Yet you only call Palmar scum...
Not the fact that he was gunning for blues but maybe educated guesses at discussion leaders.
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On January 08 2013 06:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
That is the most unreadable mess I've ever seen.
Blame the man who made the poorly formatted case
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Or in the case of BC a good scapegoat
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@ Clarity
What do you think of Hiro after my case and his list of reads plus him heading out for 48 hours ?
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On January 08 2013 06:24 Djodref wrote:
@ Clarity
What do you think of Hiro after my case and his list of reads plus him heading out for 48 hours ?
The leaving is null, as it should be, and leaving reads before leaving is not alignment indicative either.
As I said though, all his reads are basically things I've read in the thread already with few exceptions, and the exceptions are all on null reads. He could very well be scum, but I don't think lynching him tomorrow is the way to go, because he won't be able to defend himself against anything.
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Djo
The strongest part of your Hiro case is the fact that he hasn't contributed. The rest is eh and can be done by town or mafia
However, his recent list of reads is intriguing
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His recent list of reads somehow includes me.
The next time I get included in a scum read list with zero justification I am lynching that person.
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On January 08 2013 06:29 yamato77 wrote:
His recent list of reads somehow includes me.
The next time I get included in a scum read list with zero justification I am lynching that person. Did he not say you were town Lol?
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On January 08 2013 06:27 debears wrote:
Djo
The strongest part of your Hiro case is the fact that he hasn't contributed. The rest is eh and can be done by town or mafia
However, his recent list of reads is intriguing
@ debears
Why did you sheep Palmar's case on marv over your case on Tunkeg D1 ?
What do you think of Prom right now ?
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On January 08 2013 06:30 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 06:29 yamato77 wrote:
His recent list of reads somehow includes me.
The next time I get included in a scum read list with zero justification I am lynching that person. Did he not say you were town Lol?
I didn't read the quote hah. Never mind
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On January 08 2013 06:19 debears wrote:
So, to rehash why Vivax may be scum in short terms
1) his unexplained town read of tun/prom
2) Taking my quotes out of context
3) misrepresenting me with those quotes
4) Being unreasonable Point 2 and 3 are not alignment indicative. Point 4 is just... Lol. Point 1 is plain wrong btw. The Tunkeg wagon is stupid.
You should read him in Hero Mini Mafia, he got mislynched as veteran, dropping a retarded battle poem before his death. I highly doubt a mafia Tunkeg would be THIS identical to his town meta in another game.
The analogies live up again. He comes in with a huge, scummy post of rather summarizing nature, to start fighting against everyone and anyone finding him scummy for it, just to disappear again when shit hits the fan. Shortly before lynch he comes in with some martyr post, trying to look epic while being lynched and fed to the pigs for being a dicks.
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On January 08 2013 06:32 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 06:27 debears wrote:
Djo
The strongest part of your Hiro case is the fact that he hasn't contributed. The rest is eh and can be done by town or mafia
However, his recent list of reads is intriguing @ debearsWhy did you sheep Palmar's case on marv over your case on Tunkeg D1 ? What do you think of Prom right now ?
I was shut down hard by multiple vets including marv and WBG. Marv's reaction to my case on Tunkeg was not what I expected of town Marv either. Palmar's thoughts reflected those of my own
Prom is more active than Tun, but he hasn't done much. I'd rather keep him alive for now and see what he does
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On January 08 2013 06:36 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 06:19 debears wrote:
So, to rehash why Vivax may be scum in short terms
1) his unexplained town read of tun/prom
2) Taking my quotes out of context
3) misrepresenting me with those quotes
4) Being unreasonable Point 2 and 3 are not alignment indicative. Point 4 is just... Lol. Point 1 is plain wrong btw. Show nested quote + The Tunkeg wagon is stupid.
You should read him in Hero Mini Mafia, he got mislynched as veteran, dropping a retarded battle poem before his death. I highly doubt a mafia Tunkeg would be THIS identical to his town meta in another game.
The analogies live up again. He comes in with a huge, scummy post of rather summarizing nature, to start fighting against everyone and anyone finding him scummy for it, just to disappear again when shit hits the fan. Shortly before lynch he comes in with some martyr post, trying to look epic while being lynched and fed to the pigs for being a dicks.
Saying someone is town because they look scummy is a fucking retarded defense and reasoning for a strong townread
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Laser read the big wall of text I wrote and show me how he is reasonable
Taking quotes out of context and misrepresenting someone with them is more likely scum than town, since if you assume they are town, you assume that person is just flat fucking bad
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Debears I think all your hatred of Vivax is reactionary
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List of people that should be lynched, in order of importance after Jackal
1) CC
2) MZ
3) Hiro
4) Vivax/Laser
6) Palmar
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On January 08 2013 06:39 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Debears I think all your hatred of Vivax is reactionary
To expand upon this, the reason I wanted to lynch him in YANMM where he flipped SK was because he was playing a very OMGUSy game. This, again, does not look like town debears.
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On January 08 2013 06:39 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Debears I think all your hatred of Vivax is reactionary
he may be bad, but the case is so bad that I don't see it from a townie motivation
He takes multiple posts out of context and misrepresents me with them. It's not just one
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On January 08 2013 06:42 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 06:39 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Debears I think all your hatred of Vivax is reactionary To expand upon this, the reason I wanted to lynch him in YANMM where he flipped SK was because he was playing a very OMGUSy game. This, again, does not look like town debears.
Yamato, you still do not know my meta at all. Please stop acting like you do. Do you want me to point out all the times I've OMGUS'd in my town games?
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On January 08 2013 06:37 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 06:36 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 08 2013 06:19 debears wrote:
So, to rehash why Vivax may be scum in short terms
1) his unexplained town read of tun/prom
2) Taking my quotes out of context
3) misrepresenting me with those quotes
4) Being unreasonable Point 2 and 3 are not alignment indicative. Point 4 is just... Lol. Point 1 is plain wrong btw. The Tunkeg wagon is stupid.
You should read him in Hero Mini Mafia, he got mislynched as veteran, dropping a retarded battle poem before his death. I highly doubt a mafia Tunkeg would be THIS identical to his town meta in another game.
The analogies live up again. He comes in with a huge, scummy post of rather summarizing nature, to start fighting against everyone and anyone finding him scummy for it, just to disappear again when shit hits the fan. Shortly before lynch he comes in with some martyr post, trying to look epic while being lynched and fed to the pigs for being a dicks. Saying someone is town because they look scummy is a fucking retarded defense and reasoning for a strong townread It might be the case but.
1. You claimed there was no reason for him to have said that Tunkeg was town when it is in fact not true.
2. He may be retarded : ). And that is not alignment indicative.
I obviously cannot speak for Vivax on this. I just find your reasons for thinking he is scum is flawed.
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