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Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
January 07 2012 18:10 GMT
#2701
"gorapedong" LOLWHAT MKP
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
January 07 2012 18:10 GMT
#2702
lol why u went up terra n?
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
January 07 2012 18:10 GMT
#2703
MKP Mechin it happen, that seemed ridiculously 1 sided wow >.> if only it were that easy
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
January 07 2012 18:10 GMT
#2704
If Naama had just retreated after that Nexus-kill....
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
Vadrigar
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria2379 Posts
January 07 2012 18:10 GMT
#2705
On January 08 2012 03:07 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 03:05 Qaatar wrote:
On January 08 2012 02:58 Exarl25 wrote:
On January 08 2012 02:57 Demonaz wrote:
On January 08 2012 02:56 Exarl25 wrote:
Just tuned in to stream 2, battlecruisers in TvP? Can someone explain wtf is going on?


The result is meaningless, since they both are already through. So they are just messing around.


Didn't that get naniwa into a lot of trouble?


Like others are saying, there's a difference between petulantly a-moving probes and taking his hands off the keyboard, and MKP/MC putting on a fun showmatch.

Sure, both are "throwing" the match, but there are different degrees, and one is a much more acceptable form of behavior than the other.

Think of it in real sports terms. Two football teams are forced to play meaningless matches (not against each other). One football team decides to "throw" its last meaningless match by sitting out and pouting. The other team decides to take 30 meter shots on the goal every chance it gets, and tries to do a lot of fancy footwork and tricks. Which team do you think will be lambasted by the media?


There's also something to be said for NaNi's method of not wasting the audiences time. Most people want to see players try their absolute best or just not play at all.


I agree. I don't want to see players just fucking around (ingame) for 30 minutes. I actually turned off this MC vs. MKP travesty. Korean are always professional... hypocrites.
Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
January 07 2012 18:10 GMT
#2706
Why didn't Naama go home after killing nexus?
Bro_Stone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States510 Posts
January 07 2012 18:11 GMT
#2707
Sexy timing push
Stim Go Go GO!
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
January 07 2012 18:11 GMT
#2708
On January 08 2012 03:10 Vadrigar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 03:07 Fragile51 wrote:
On January 08 2012 03:05 Qaatar wrote:
On January 08 2012 02:58 Exarl25 wrote:
On January 08 2012 02:57 Demonaz wrote:
On January 08 2012 02:56 Exarl25 wrote:
Just tuned in to stream 2, battlecruisers in TvP? Can someone explain wtf is going on?


The result is meaningless, since they both are already through. So they are just messing around.


Didn't that get naniwa into a lot of trouble?


Like others are saying, there's a difference between petulantly a-moving probes and taking his hands off the keyboard, and MKP/MC putting on a fun showmatch.

Sure, both are "throwing" the match, but there are different degrees, and one is a much more acceptable form of behavior than the other.

Think of it in real sports terms. Two football teams are forced to play meaningless matches (not against each other). One football team decides to "throw" its last meaningless match by sitting out and pouting. The other team decides to take 30 meter shots on the goal every chance it gets, and tries to do a lot of fancy footwork and tricks. Which team do you think will be lambasted by the media?


There's also something to be said for NaNi's method of not wasting the audiences time. Most people want to see players try their absolute best or just not play at all.


I agree. I don't want to see players just fucking around (ingame) for 30 minutes. I actually turned off this MC vs. MKP travesty. Korean are always professional... hypocrites.


I'm sure a lot of people enjoyed that game
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 07 2012 18:11 GMT
#2709
yay hero!
vasculaR
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia791 Posts
January 07 2012 18:11 GMT
#2710
attero would make a fantastic caster
Song Ji Hyo hwaiting!
WhurreOdu
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1739 Posts
January 07 2012 18:12 GMT
#2711
gg wp by HerO
Fut am Bam
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
January 07 2012 18:12 GMT
#2712
Aww Naama bad decision..
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
January 07 2012 18:12 GMT
#2713
On January 08 2012 03:08 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 03:06 Megabuster123 wrote:
On January 08 2012 03:04 discobaas wrote:
On January 08 2012 03:03 Linwelin wrote:
On January 08 2012 03:01 Mohdoo wrote:
On January 08 2012 02:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 08 2012 02:58 Exarl25 wrote:
On January 08 2012 02:57 Demonaz wrote:
On January 08 2012 02:56 Exarl25 wrote:
Just tuned in to stream 2, battlecruisers in TvP? Can someone explain wtf is going on?


The result is meaningless, since they both are already through. So they are just messing around.


Didn't that get naniwa into a lot of trouble?

I think HSC is less serious than Blizzard cup

Prize

1st $7500
2nd $3500
3rd $2000
4th $1000
5-6th $300
7-8th $200

Still pretty damn serious.


Prize pool doesn't determine whether a tournament is serious or not

There's a big difference between disrespectfully throwing a game and playing an awesome long game, albeit a little unconventional one.

That's such fucking bullshit. You can't control the quality of games, all you can do is create circumstances that will lead to the best games. MC and MKP playing a fake game is the exact same as Naniwa pulling 6 probes and saying fuck it. Just because you like one, doesn't make it better. If you're going to be a stickler, at least be consistent.


Sorry, not true. If naniwa 4 gated nestea in his thrown game, there would have been no controversy. It's how you do it that matters.

The basis of the controversy is bullshit though. That's the point. People who complain about Naniwa pulling probes should be complaing to GOM for allowing stupid games like that to be played. No one wants to waste their time seeing pro's not play their best. Seeing MKP and MC screw around with stupid builds isn't entertaining because you know they're not playing their best. It's a waste of time, yet no one complains. It's inconsistent.
awha
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1358 Posts
January 07 2012 18:12 GMT
#2714
all korean top X incomming
labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
January 07 2012 18:12 GMT
#2715
TT Naama, why u not retreat after nexus kill?
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
January 07 2012 18:12 GMT
#2716
On January 08 2012 03:10 Vadrigar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 03:07 Fragile51 wrote:
On January 08 2012 03:05 Qaatar wrote:
On January 08 2012 02:58 Exarl25 wrote:
On January 08 2012 02:57 Demonaz wrote:
On January 08 2012 02:56 Exarl25 wrote:
Just tuned in to stream 2, battlecruisers in TvP? Can someone explain wtf is going on?


The result is meaningless, since they both are already through. So they are just messing around.


Didn't that get naniwa into a lot of trouble?


Like others are saying, there's a difference between petulantly a-moving probes and taking his hands off the keyboard, and MKP/MC putting on a fun showmatch.

Sure, both are "throwing" the match, but there are different degrees, and one is a much more acceptable form of behavior than the other.

Think of it in real sports terms. Two football teams are forced to play meaningless matches (not against each other). One football team decides to "throw" its last meaningless match by sitting out and pouting. The other team decides to take 30 meter shots on the goal every chance it gets, and tries to do a lot of fancy footwork and tricks. Which team do you think will be lambasted by the media?


There's also something to be said for NaNi's method of not wasting the audiences time. Most people want to see players try their absolute best or just not play at all.


I agree. I don't want to see players just fucking around (ingame) for 30 minutes. I actually turned off this MC vs. MKP travesty. Korean are always professional... hypocrites.


I don't mind it in this situation because HSC is meant to be fun above all, but you would never see that kind of game in MLG or GSL.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
January 07 2012 18:12 GMT
#2717
Hell yes Hero <3
Revolutionist fan
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 18:12:41
January 07 2012 18:12 GMT
#2718
Based on that game I now consider Naama to be extremely low-tier. He can't even pull off an unscouted SCV-Marine all in.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
January 07 2012 18:12 GMT
#2719
Naama threw that away.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
January 07 2012 18:12 GMT
#2720
On January 08 2012 03:06 Megabuster123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 03:04 discobaas wrote:
On January 08 2012 03:03 Linwelin wrote:
On January 08 2012 03:01 Mohdoo wrote:
On January 08 2012 02:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 08 2012 02:58 Exarl25 wrote:
On January 08 2012 02:57 Demonaz wrote:
On January 08 2012 02:56 Exarl25 wrote:
Just tuned in to stream 2, battlecruisers in TvP? Can someone explain wtf is going on?


The result is meaningless, since they both are already through. So they are just messing around.


Didn't that get naniwa into a lot of trouble?

I think HSC is less serious than Blizzard cup

Prize

1st $7500
2nd $3500
3rd $2000
4th $1000
5-6th $300
7-8th $200

Still pretty damn serious.


Prize pool doesn't determine whether a tournament is serious or not

There's a big difference between disrespectfully throwing a game and playing an awesome long game, albeit a little unconventional one.

That's such fucking bullshit. You can't control the quality of games, all you can do is create circumstances that will lead to the best games. MC and MKP playing a fake game is the exact same as Naniwa pulling 6 probes and saying fuck it. Just because you like one, doesn't make it better. If you're going to be a stickler, at least be consistent.


Like everything in life, there are different degrees to which one thing is acceptable, and one is not. Not everything is black and white. Let's take lying to someone. When you lie to your grandma on her deathbed about something just to make her happy before she passes away, is that the same thing as lying to your boss about not going to work? Both are lies.
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