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On January 08 2012 03:12 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 03:08 Canucklehead wrote:On January 08 2012 03:06 Megabuster123 wrote:On January 08 2012 03:04 discobaas wrote:On January 08 2012 03:03 Linwelin wrote:On January 08 2012 03:01 Mohdoo wrote:On January 08 2012 02:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:On January 08 2012 02:58 Exarl25 wrote:On January 08 2012 02:57 Demonaz wrote:On January 08 2012 02:56 Exarl25 wrote:
Just tuned in to stream 2, battlecruisers in TvP? Can someone explain wtf is going on? The result is meaningless, since they both are already through. So they are just messing around.  Didn't that get naniwa into a lot of trouble? I think HSC is less serious than Blizzard cup Prize 1st $7500 2nd $3500 3rd $2000 4th $1000 5-6th $300 7-8th $200 Still pretty damn serious. Prize pool doesn't determine whether a tournament is serious or not There's a big difference between disrespectfully throwing a game and playing an awesome long game, albeit a little unconventional one. That's such fucking bullshit. You can't control the quality of games, all you can do is create circumstances that will lead to the best games. MC and MKP playing a fake game is the exact same as Naniwa pulling 6 probes and saying fuck it. Just because you like one, doesn't make it better. If you're going to be a stickler, at least be consistent. Sorry, not true. If naniwa 4 gated nestea in his thrown game, there would have been no controversy. It's how you do it that matters. The basis of the controversy is bullshit though. That's the point. People who complain about Naniwa pulling probes should be complaing to GOM for allowing stupid games like that to be played. No one wants to waste their time seeing pro's not play their best. Seeing MKP and MC screw around with stupid builds isn't entertaining because you know they're not playing their best. It's a waste of time, yet no one complains. It's inconsistent.
I was entertained. Those two worked for the money.
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if hero had blink he'd probably chase naama's army back and kill alot of stuff. i dont think the build works that well
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On January 08 2012 03:11 Linwelin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 03:10 Vadrigar wrote:On January 08 2012 03:07 Fragile51 wrote:On January 08 2012 03:05 Qaatar wrote:On January 08 2012 02:58 Exarl25 wrote:On January 08 2012 02:57 Demonaz wrote:On January 08 2012 02:56 Exarl25 wrote:
Just tuned in to stream 2, battlecruisers in TvP? Can someone explain wtf is going on? The result is meaningless, since they both are already through. So they are just messing around. Didn't that get naniwa into a lot of trouble? Like others are saying, there's a difference between petulantly a-moving probes and taking his hands off the keyboard, and MKP/MC putting on a fun showmatch. Sure, both are "throwing" the match, but there are different degrees, and one is a much more acceptable form of behavior than the other. Think of it in real sports terms. Two football teams are forced to play meaningless matches (not against each other). One football team decides to "throw" its last meaningless match by sitting out and pouting. The other team decides to take 30 meter shots on the goal every chance it gets, and tries to do a lot of fancy footwork and tricks. Which team do you think will be lambasted by the media? There's also something to be said for NaNi's method of not wasting the audiences time. Most people want to see players try their absolute best or just not play at all. I agree. I don't want to see players just fucking around (ingame) for 30 minutes. I actually turned off this MC vs. MKP travesty. Korean are always professional... hypocrites. I'm sure a lot of people enjoyed that game
No one even cares, Homestory cup is a very different Tournament than GSL. Pretty sure if you showed up drunk casting a GSL match you would get fired.
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Yeah HerO! You're a fucking beast!
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On January 08 2012 03:12 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 03:08 Canucklehead wrote:On January 08 2012 03:06 Megabuster123 wrote:On January 08 2012 03:04 discobaas wrote:On January 08 2012 03:03 Linwelin wrote:On January 08 2012 03:01 Mohdoo wrote:On January 08 2012 02:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:On January 08 2012 02:58 Exarl25 wrote:On January 08 2012 02:57 Demonaz wrote:On January 08 2012 02:56 Exarl25 wrote:
Just tuned in to stream 2, battlecruisers in TvP? Can someone explain wtf is going on? The result is meaningless, since they both are already through. So they are just messing around. Didn't that get naniwa into a lot of trouble? I think HSC is less serious than Blizzard cup Prize 1st $7500 2nd $3500 3rd $2000 4th $1000 5-6th $300 7-8th $200 Still pretty damn serious. Prize pool doesn't determine whether a tournament is serious or not There's a big difference between disrespectfully throwing a game and playing an awesome long game, albeit a little unconventional one. That's such fucking bullshit. You can't control the quality of games, all you can do is create circumstances that will lead to the best games. MC and MKP playing a fake game is the exact same as Naniwa pulling 6 probes and saying fuck it. Just because you like one, doesn't make it better. If you're going to be a stickler, at least be consistent. Sorry, not true. If naniwa 4 gated nestea in his thrown game, there would have been no controversy. It's how you do it that matters. The basis of the controversy is bullshit though. That's the point. People who complain about Naniwa pulling probes should be complaing to GOM for allowing stupid games like that to be played. No one wants to waste their time seeing pro's not play their best. Seeing MKP and MC screw around with stupid builds isn't entertaining because you know they're not playing their best. It's a waste of time, yet no one complains. It's inconsistent.
For the love of god can there be a thread where we don't have to talk about Nani's moronic antics? It's been discussed to death.
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On January 08 2012 03:12 Megabuster123 wrote:The basis of the controversy is bullshit though. That's the point. People who complain about Naniwa pulling probes should be complaing to GOM for allowing stupid games like that to be played. No one wants to waste their time seeing pro's not play their best. Seeing MKP and MC screw around with stupid builds isn't entertaining because you know they're not playing their best. It's a waste of time, yet no one complains. It's inconsistent.
wrong thread
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On January 08 2012 03:11 Linwelin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 03:10 Vadrigar wrote:On January 08 2012 03:07 Fragile51 wrote:On January 08 2012 03:05 Qaatar wrote:On January 08 2012 02:58 Exarl25 wrote:On January 08 2012 02:57 Demonaz wrote:On January 08 2012 02:56 Exarl25 wrote:
Just tuned in to stream 2, battlecruisers in TvP? Can someone explain wtf is going on? The result is meaningless, since they both are already through. So they are just messing around. Didn't that get naniwa into a lot of trouble? Like others are saying, there's a difference between petulantly a-moving probes and taking his hands off the keyboard, and MKP/MC putting on a fun showmatch. Sure, both are "throwing" the match, but there are different degrees, and one is a much more acceptable form of behavior than the other. Think of it in real sports terms. Two football teams are forced to play meaningless matches (not against each other). One football team decides to "throw" its last meaningless match by sitting out and pouting. The other team decides to take 30 meter shots on the goal every chance it gets, and tries to do a lot of fancy footwork and tricks. Which team do you think will be lambasted by the media? There's also something to be said for NaNi's method of not wasting the audiences time. Most people want to see players try their absolute best or just not play at all. I agree. I don't want to see players just fucking around (ingame) for 30 minutes. I actually turned off this MC vs. MKP travesty. Korean are always professional... hypocrites. I'm sure a lot of people enjoyed that game
Second game was totally legit, 2 base mech allins are not only doable vs protoss, they are actually quite strong.
Gorapadong.
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I just love the pro-player analysis of the games, no one knows the game better, I learn a lot
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On January 08 2012 03:09 ninjamyst wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 03:06 Megabuster123 wrote:On January 08 2012 03:04 discobaas wrote:On January 08 2012 03:03 Linwelin wrote:On January 08 2012 03:01 Mohdoo wrote:On January 08 2012 02:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:On January 08 2012 02:58 Exarl25 wrote:On January 08 2012 02:57 Demonaz wrote:On January 08 2012 02:56 Exarl25 wrote:
Just tuned in to stream 2, battlecruisers in TvP? Can someone explain wtf is going on? The result is meaningless, since they both are already through. So they are just messing around. Didn't that get naniwa into a lot of trouble? I think HSC is less serious than Blizzard cup Prize 1st $7500 2nd $3500 3rd $2000 4th $1000 5-6th $300 7-8th $200 Still pretty damn serious. Prize pool doesn't determine whether a tournament is serious or not There's a big difference between disrespectfully throwing a game and playing an awesome long game, albeit a little unconventional one. That's such fucking bullshit. You can't control the quality of games, all you can do is create circumstances that will lead to the best games. MC and MKP playing a fake game is the exact same as Naniwa pulling 6 probes and saying fuck it. Just because you like one, doesn't make it better. If you're going to be a stickler, at least be consistent. wow. you sound like a whining little kid trying to justify all the wrongs in the world. stop trying to defend Naniwa. he admitted himself that he was wrong and disrespectful. let it go.
I really hate bringing it back up again, but how is he wrong exactly?
There's just the fact that more people hated to see the probe rush, but there are definitely some guys who hate to see a fake game between MC & MKP as well, so it's the same boat in some people's eyes.
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Bad attack there from Naama. Don't know why he let all his Marines die and low ground...
And let's not turn this thread into a Naniwa discussion. On topic!
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On January 08 2012 03:13 R!! wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 03:11 Linwelin wrote:On January 08 2012 03:10 Vadrigar wrote:On January 08 2012 03:07 Fragile51 wrote:On January 08 2012 03:05 Qaatar wrote:On January 08 2012 02:58 Exarl25 wrote:On January 08 2012 02:57 Demonaz wrote:On January 08 2012 02:56 Exarl25 wrote:
Just tuned in to stream 2, battlecruisers in TvP? Can someone explain wtf is going on? The result is meaningless, since they both are already through. So they are just messing around. Didn't that get naniwa into a lot of trouble? Like others are saying, there's a difference between petulantly a-moving probes and taking his hands off the keyboard, and MKP/MC putting on a fun showmatch. Sure, both are "throwing" the match, but there are different degrees, and one is a much more acceptable form of behavior than the other. Think of it in real sports terms. Two football teams are forced to play meaningless matches (not against each other). One football team decides to "throw" its last meaningless match by sitting out and pouting. The other team decides to take 30 meter shots on the goal every chance it gets, and tries to do a lot of fancy footwork and tricks. Which team do you think will be lambasted by the media? There's also something to be said for NaNi's method of not wasting the audiences time. Most people want to see players try their absolute best or just not play at all. I agree. I don't want to see players just fucking around (ingame) for 30 minutes. I actually turned off this MC vs. MKP travesty. Korean are always professional... hypocrites. I'm sure a lot of people enjoyed that game Second game was totally legit, 2 base mech allins are not only doable vs protoss, they are actually quite strong. Gorapadong.
Somewhere in Korea Artosis is smiling.
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I wish that they would get atleast one terran on the couch when a terran is playing. That goes for the other races as well ofcourse.
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On January 08 2012 03:09 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Marineking troll builds > MC
haha... Trollrineking
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On January 08 2012 03:12 JinDesu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 03:12 Megabuster123 wrote:On January 08 2012 03:08 Canucklehead wrote:On January 08 2012 03:06 Megabuster123 wrote:On January 08 2012 03:04 discobaas wrote:On January 08 2012 03:03 Linwelin wrote:On January 08 2012 03:01 Mohdoo wrote:On January 08 2012 02:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:On January 08 2012 02:58 Exarl25 wrote:On January 08 2012 02:57 Demonaz wrote:[quote] The result is meaningless, since they both are already through. So they are just messing around. Didn't that get naniwa into a lot of trouble? I think HSC is less serious than Blizzard cup Prize 1st $7500 2nd $3500 3rd $2000 4th $1000 5-6th $300 7-8th $200 Still pretty damn serious. Prize pool doesn't determine whether a tournament is serious or not There's a big difference between disrespectfully throwing a game and playing an awesome long game, albeit a little unconventional one. That's such fucking bullshit. You can't control the quality of games, all you can do is create circumstances that will lead to the best games. MC and MKP playing a fake game is the exact same as Naniwa pulling 6 probes and saying fuck it. Just because you like one, doesn't make it better. If you're going to be a stickler, at least be consistent. Sorry, not true. If naniwa 4 gated nestea in his thrown game, there would have been no controversy. It's how you do it that matters. The basis of the controversy is bullshit though. That's the point. People who complain about Naniwa pulling probes should be complaing to GOM for allowing stupid games like that to be played. No one wants to waste their time seeing pro's not play their best. Seeing MKP and MC screw around with stupid builds isn't entertaining because you know they're not playing their best. It's a waste of time, yet no one complains. It's inconsistent. I was entertained. Those two worked for the money.
They're job isn't to entertain you. They're competing in a tournament to win money. They're job is to win. Once that objective is achieve or unreachable, they gain nothing from playing additional games.
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does anyone know why they started group D before finishing group A?
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EPT
