EPTTL Mafia LXII: TL Noir - Page 129
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marvellosity
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WaveofShadow
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On September 24 2013 09:20 marvellosity wrote: Well. meh. Firstly he made a comment about VA being likely dead with the daypost. So, um, mm. Secondly his attack on me kinda came from left-field. Saying I don't make filler as town is kinda so hilariously wrong, pulling that as mafia... I dunno, it's ballsy? I'm not generally suspicious at all (just based on how other players are viewing me) so it's not like he's pouring fuel on the fire or anything. So I at least have reasons for him living through the night so I can see more of him tomorrow. How many vig claims have we had now? I remember someone saying earlier that they have believed exactly ZERO of the, what, 5 claims or something we've seen so far? And for good reason imo. The issue becomes, how do you know you're GOING to be seeing more of him tomorrow? I am wary of giving too many players free passes to 'see' what they will do because that will often bite one in the ass (ie Kush). I'm not even sure I agree that his out-of-left field attack on you is ballsy at all. I don't know if scum have a reason to fear you atm. You've done a lot of decent posting, but not a lot of pushing/accusing, let's say? TBH I don't know who scum are afraid of atm. I can't really think of the major active posters who has done a great deal of pushing aside from maybe yamato. | ||
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geript
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marvellosity
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If scum let me live tomorrow in a situation where I'm not fighting with my back to the wall like I often am it seems these days, then I'll be quite happy. | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
On September 24 2013 08:08 marvellosity wrote: Risen is on really hard drugs if he's town. Anyway, Cephiro, unlike Chairman ray, has been around a long time and should definitely know better: This never happens. He does a vote on LoneMeow and then peaces out. very much not what the bolded suggests. And, unlike Ray, this happened within a considerably shorter timespan Here's some kind of explanation for it: I don't buy this at all. He's pissed at the situation, except he's been too busy to play the game because he's been playing too much dota? How pissed can you be at the situation when you've basically stuck your middle finger up at the game already? It feels really unnatural. I think Cephiro has a pretty decent chance of being mafia. As I mentioned even at pre-game, I would be very busy at least during the first few cycles of the game. I really wanted to participate in another large-scale game ( a normal one for a change), but the fact is that I like to contribute but I haven't been able to do that as much as I would have wanted. There has been more activity than I was expecting to be able to handle properly. I'd rather read 50 pages properly and try to catch up than skim through 100 and post some bullshit. I still have multiple tens of pages to read through. Why exactly have I stuck my middle finger up at the game already? Am I that much of a jerk for having a real life, and wanting to play some dota? Yes, I can admit this game has not been my #1 priority. Does that make me scum? No. As scum, there is nothing that I enjoy more than coming up with the most devious plan to bend town over again and again and fuck them in every hole possible without them even knowing I did. Lurking would be very sub-optimal to do that. Anyway, I won't delve further into that but continue catching up instead. Here are some short notices that I have made (I have properly read through up to page 80.) kushm4sta: Terrible play, doesn't give a shit and openly admits it. But constantly pops in every once a while to say something, why? Coagulation: Seems too confident for someone who doesn't contribute at all. [UoN]Sentinel: A lot of useless posts and bad reasoning in general. VayneAuthority: This is more what I'd call giving the middle finger to the game, doing nothing but posting some rp shit? justanothertownie: Seems to be easily swayed in his opinions, the way he posts gives me the feeling that he wants his presence to be acknowledge but not really noticed. I will not be able to catch up the whole thread until deadline, but if I live on I am catching up and being of better use for the town. | ||
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marvellosity
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On September 24 2013 09:30 Cephiro wrote: As I mentioned even at pre-game, I would be very busy at least during the first few cycles of the game. I really wanted to participate in another large-scale game ( a normal one for a change), but the fact is that I like to contribute but I haven't been able to do that as much as I would have wanted. There has been more activity than I was expecting to be able to handle properly. I'd rather read 50 pages properly and try to catch up than skim through 100 and post some bullshit. I still have multiple tens of pages to read through. Why exactly have I stuck my middle finger up at the game already? Am I that much of a jerk for having a real life, and wanting to play some dota? Yes, I can admit this game has not been my #1 priority. Does that make me scum? No. As scum, there is nothing that I enjoy more than coming up with the most devious plan to bend town over again and again and fuck them in every hole possible without them even knowing I did. Lurking would be very sub-optimal to do that. Anyway, I won't delve further into that but continue catching up instead. Here are some short notices that I have made (I have properly read through up to page 80.) kushm4sta: Terrible play, doesn't give a shit and openly admits it. But constantly pops in every once a while to say something, why? Coagulation: Seems too confident for someone who doesn't contribute at all. [UoN]Sentinel: A lot of useless posts and bad reasoning in general. VayneAuthority: This is more what I'd call giving the middle finger to the game, doing nothing but posting some rp shit? justanothertownie: Seems to be easily swayed in his opinions, the way he posts gives me the feeling that he wants his presence to be acknowledge but not really noticed. I will not be able to catch up the whole thread until deadline, but if I live on I am catching up and being of better use for the town. I sense a pattern here. Why is it when people make list posts they tend to outline the 'easy' reads? Sorry Ceph, you're still a vig for me---this post tells us absolutely dick all and you haven't helped out this game in the slightest. It would be a shame if you're town, but honestly this bare modicum of effort makes me actually think scum. Good vig shot here ladies and gents. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On September 24 2013 09:30 Cephiro wrote: As I mentioned even at pre-game, I would be very busy at least during the first few cycles of the game. I really wanted to participate in another large-scale game ( a normal one for a change), but the fact is that I like to contribute but I haven't been able to do that as much as I would have wanted. There has been more activity than I was expecting to be able to handle properly. I'd rather read 50 pages properly and try to catch up than skim through 100 and post some bullshit. I still have multiple tens of pages to read through. Why exactly have I stuck my middle finger up at the game already? Am I that much of a jerk for having a real life, and wanting to play some dota? Yes, I can admit this game has not been my #1 priority. Does that make me scum? No. As scum, there is nothing that I enjoy more than coming up with the most devious plan to bend town over again and again and fuck them in every hole possible without them even knowing I did. Lurking would be very sub-optimal to do that. Anyway, I won't delve further into that but continue catching up instead. Here are some short notices that I have made (I have properly read through up to page 80.) kushm4sta: Terrible play, doesn't give a shit and openly admits it. But constantly pops in every once a while to say something, why? Coagulation: Seems too confident for someone who doesn't contribute at all. [UoN]Sentinel: A lot of useless posts and bad reasoning in general. VayneAuthority: This is more what I'd call giving the middle finger to the game, doing nothing but posting some rp shit? justanothertownie: Seems to be easily swayed in his opinions, the way he posts gives me the feeling that he wants his presence to be acknowledge but not really noticed. I will not be able to catch up the whole thread until deadline, but if I live on I am catching up and being of better use for the town. I sense a pattern here. Why is it when people make list posts they tend to outline the 'easy' reads? Sorry Ceph, you're still a vig for me---this post tells us absolutely dick all and you haven't helped out this game in the slightest. It would be a shame if you're town, but honestly this bare modicum of effort makes me actually think scum. Good vig shot here ladies and gents. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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marvellosity
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People I have coloured in town in my spreadsheet (anywhere from a strong read to a weakish one). I guess in some kind of order: yamato DP Wave coag geript Mattchew VE Koshi People without a colour. Either null, slight lean either way, or conflicting reasons: rayn BH kush decon malongo Vayne Risen Zaragon jat umasi mocsta All of this lot above could be mafia, some maybe more likely than others. Most of it is just that I need to see more from them (for heavy posters like rayn and moc, that just means i can't get a solid lean yet) People I'm suspicious of: FT Pandain Cephiro Stutters Sentinel LM Probably there'll be movement between the bottom two lists the most if I live. It's possible some of the townreads will move down, but that's less likely. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On September 24 2013 09:39 VisceraEyes wrote: Is Cephiro a better vig shot than BH Wave? In my opinion, yes, though it might be due to personal bias. I can follow BH pretty damn well whereas Ceph I have only played in one game with him and was particularly invested in what he had to say. BH has an excuse for not posting a great deal thus far since he wasn't actually IN the game and I ACTUALLY expect him to follow up. Ceph I have no idea whether he will or not. Why do you ask, my dear? | ||
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marvellosity
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Coagulation
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marvellosity
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geript
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marvellosity
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VisceraEyes
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On September 24 2013 09:43 WaveofShadow wrote: In my opinion, yes, though it might be due to personal bias. I can follow BH pretty damn well whereas Ceph I have only played in one game with him and was particularly invested in what he had to say. BH has an excuse for not posting a great deal thus far since he wasn't actually IN the game and I ACTUALLY expect him to follow up. Ceph I have no idea whether he will or not. Why do you ask, my dear? Because BH posted an even more useless list and has done far less than Cephiro. Yes, he's had less time, but I find it hard to believe that an entire night cycle passes in which he says nothing as town when he's known as a decent player. :/ I mean, I guess maybe my expectations could be too high for the guy, but I just have a hard time seeing town in BH's play so far. That being said I agree with you: between the two I'd say Ceph is a better Vig target, but ONLY because BH is replacing in and I love to hear the opinions of external viewpoints when trying to figure out the game. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On September 24 2013 09:49 VisceraEyes wrote: Because BH posted an even more useless list and has done far less than Cephiro. Yes, he's had less time, but I find it hard to believe that an entire night cycle passes in which he says nothing as town when he's known as a decent player. :/ I mean, I guess maybe my expectations could be too high for the guy, but I just have a hard time seeing town in BH's play so far. That being said I agree with you: between the two I'd say Ceph is a better Vig target, but ONLY because BH is replacing in and I love to hear the opinions of external viewpoints when trying to figure out the game. BH doesn't always do what is expected of him as town. Look at Aperture. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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