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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 24 2013 01:01 GMT
#2601
On September 24 2013 08:32 Pandain wrote:
I'll be back later tonight.

In case I (somehow) get shot before I come back, here is my last good read(and advice).


Emotion makes people towns

Basically read any analysis. Scum are the ones who are inherently afraid to post, while town doesn't have that limitation. Because of this, any scum post, unless they're on the verge of being lynched(or a scum mate is), is going to be forced post rather than a genuine one.

I think it's very hard to fake an emotion resulting from feeling bad this game. Mafia you don't even really feel bad, because you have a team to rest it on. You weren't playing bad, you were playing "well", simply as mafia. They didn't know.

But if you're town and others criticize you, that hurts.

Gertript is known for pulling off crazy tricks. Or at least, he did it in Aperture.
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 01:41 geript wrote:
On September 24 2013 01:26 Mocsta wrote:
Geript, mav/me still waiting.

I really wonder where the Geript I nk'd night1 in his first TL game disappeared to. I miss that guy R.I.P

I'm as good as how much time I put in. Just is what it is. IDK like I really don't feel great about my reads as I was pre-aperature. That said, everyone else who played and voted for me in aperature and was town were idiotic. I'm just not feeling this game and I think a large majority of scum are inactive.


This post is too genuine for me. First, scum don't say they don't feel the game as an excuse. Actually to be fair they definitely can, but I have never seen a scum use an excuse like that. Because scum actually do feel for the game, it is hard to post posts which go against directly what you believe.

To clarify further, being interested in the game(having a feel for it), and being interested in solving it are the two distinctions between emotion in mafia.

Is this clear?

Gertrip if you're reading this, I know how you feel. I felt exactly the same way in a weird Caller Japenese themed game. I was sure that Ace was scum but no one believed me. Eventually I was convinced I had no idea what to believe. And I hated it because I was confused.

Keep at it man, and look at Palmar. He improved so much despite people constantly shit-talking him. Don't give up, and look at other people besides DP. I don't think shooting him is a good idea, even if you think he's mafia, because he is so strong later on.


My gameplay from every game I've ever played in invalidates this.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 24 2013 01:02 GMT
#2602
On September 24 2013 10:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 09:57 geript wrote:
Since we're narrowing down on the deadline... I think. I just wanted to be up front for realz. I'm not shooting DP. or FT. or Onegu. It's not for lack of desire. It's for lack of bullets; I mean I personally am not shooting blanks, but in the game I have neither a gun nor blanks. I just figured that it gives a quite good alternate way to read/medic people if appropriate and I hope DP comes back and shit. All that said, I would hope that DP would've had much more faith in me but after aperature I guess not. I'm still not happy with his replacing out and I still feel like he's getting a freebie town pass from most people inexplicably.

Surprise

But see here's the thing.
I'm NOT surprised.
At all.
I am MORE surprised that DP let something as miniscule as your threats get to him.


This. It's why I was totally uninterested in the whole vig situation that DP was getting upset at me for not blowing my lid at geript. It's just... yeah.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
September 24 2013 01:02 GMT
#2603
On September 24 2013 10:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 09:57 geript wrote:
Since we're narrowing down on the deadline... I think. I just wanted to be up front for realz. I'm not shooting DP. or FT. or Onegu. It's not for lack of desire. It's for lack of bullets; I mean I personally am not shooting blanks, but in the game I have neither a gun nor blanks. I just figured that it gives a quite good alternate way to read/medic people if appropriate and I hope DP comes back and shit. All that said, I would hope that DP would've had much more faith in me but after aperature I guess not. I'm still not happy with his replacing out and I still feel like he's getting a freebie town pass from most people inexplicably.

Surprise

But see here's the thing.
I'm NOT surprised.
At all.
I am MORE surprised that DP let something as miniscule as your threats get to him.

I would agree, but given what I've seen of DP late, I'm not really surprised at that either. He gettin fed up with stupids regardless of his alignment.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 24 2013 01:02 GMT
#2604
Marv I just realized something.
Dick move analysis on DP?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 24 2013 01:03 GMT
#2605
On September 24 2013 10:01 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah yeah yeah man ok do i have 1 hour to the deadline or 2 hours


not really expecting you to post in any timeframe, I just want you to play the game with us dear.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
September 24 2013 01:03 GMT
#2606
On September 24 2013 10:01 geript wrote:
Deadline?


yeah, deadline. when the night ends? it's night right
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 24 2013 01:03 GMT
#2607
On September 24 2013 10:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
Marv I just realized something.
Dick move analysis on DP?


well, he's in my town column ^_^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
September 24 2013 01:03 GMT
#2608
On September 24 2013 10:03 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 10:01 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah yeah yeah man ok do i have 1 hour to the deadline or 2 hours


not really expecting you to post in any timeframe, I just want you to play the game with us dear.


i'm just thinking I should post before the day post since scum might shoot me for replacing in
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
September 24 2013 01:04 GMT
#2609
On September 24 2013 10:01 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 09:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
Kush:

Full read on Coag in 50 words or less. Go.


looks town actually. I don't expect that much effort from scumcoag.

This is interesting. Which "effort" are you referring to here sir?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 24 2013 01:04 GMT
#2610
On September 24 2013 10:03 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 10:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
Marv I just realized something.
Dick move analysis on DP?


well, he's in my town column ^_^

Which means I'm gonna be real sad if he legit quits mafia. I think I phrased it earlier but if you're getting angry at parts of the game which are legitimately going to be parts of any game (ie rolling 3P, getting accused) then it really is time to quit.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 24 2013 01:04 GMT
#2611
So we should stop posting right?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 24 2013 01:05 GMT
#2612
Yeah, pretty much what I said too Wave.

Gotta stop agreeing with you really.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 24 2013 01:06 GMT
#2613
Did I misjudge the actual deadline. Dammit
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 24 2013 01:06 GMT
#2614
On September 24 2013 10:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 10:01 kushm4sta wrote:
On September 24 2013 09:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
Kush:

Full read on Coag in 50 words or less. Go.


looks town actually. I don't expect that much effort from scumcoag.

This is interesting. Which "effort" are you referring to here sir?

u want me to pull the quotes?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
September 24 2013 01:07 GMT
#2615
On September 24 2013 10:06 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 10:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
On September 24 2013 10:01 kushm4sta wrote:
On September 24 2013 09:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
Kush:

Full read on Coag in 50 words or less. Go.


looks town actually. I don't expect that much effort from scumcoag.

This is interesting. Which "effort" are you referring to here sir?

u want me to pull the quotes?

It could help, but if you can generalize I'd take that too. I haven't seen any "effort" on the part of Coag this game.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 24 2013 01:08 GMT
#2616
On September 24 2013 10:01 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 08:32 Pandain wrote:
I'll be back later tonight.

In case I (somehow) get shot before I come back, here is my last good read(and advice).


Emotion makes people towns

Basically read any analysis. Scum are the ones who are inherently afraid to post, while town doesn't have that limitation. Because of this, any scum post, unless they're on the verge of being lynched(or a scum mate is), is going to be forced post rather than a genuine one.

I think it's very hard to fake an emotion resulting from feeling bad this game. Mafia you don't even really feel bad, because you have a team to rest it on. You weren't playing bad, you were playing "well", simply as mafia. They didn't know.

But if you're town and others criticize you, that hurts.

Gertript is known for pulling off crazy tricks. Or at least, he did it in Aperture.
On September 24 2013 01:41 geript wrote:
On September 24 2013 01:26 Mocsta wrote:
Geript, mav/me still waiting.

I really wonder where the Geript I nk'd night1 in his first TL game disappeared to. I miss that guy R.I.P

I'm as good as how much time I put in. Just is what it is. IDK like I really don't feel great about my reads as I was pre-aperature. That said, everyone else who played and voted for me in aperature and was town were idiotic. I'm just not feeling this game and I think a large majority of scum are inactive.


This post is too genuine for me. First, scum don't say they don't feel the game as an excuse. Actually to be fair they definitely can, but I have never seen a scum use an excuse like that. Because scum actually do feel for the game, it is hard to post posts which go against directly what you believe.

To clarify further, being interested in the game(having a feel for it), and being interested in solving it are the two distinctions between emotion in mafia.

Is this clear?

Gertrip if you're reading this, I know how you feel. I felt exactly the same way in a weird Caller Japenese themed game. I was sure that Ace was scum but no one believed me. Eventually I was convinced I had no idea what to believe. And I hated it because I was confused.

Keep at it man, and look at Palmar. He improved so much despite people constantly shit-talking him. Don't give up, and look at other people besides DP. I don't think shooting him is a good idea, even if you think he's mafia, because he is so strong later on.


My gameplay from every game I've ever played in invalidates this.

Hmm....

Risen with a very good point.
Marv is Pandain scum?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 24 2013 01:09 GMT
#2617
he is reading and thinking about the game as indicated by many posts.
he had that prolonged conversation with you guys about the vig shot.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 24 2013 01:09 GMT
#2618
On September 24 2013 09:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 09:20 marvellosity wrote:
On September 24 2013 09:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
Marv I would like to know why you think Risen doesn't deserve to be shot.
As far as I know I don't think my shot list has changed in the past few hours.
I will do a list of reads before daypost as well just in case....once upon a time I would say there's no point because I never get killed N1 but in recent games....


Well. meh. Firstly he made a comment about VA being likely dead with the daypost. So, um, mm.

Secondly his attack on me kinda came from left-field. Saying I don't make filler as town is kinda so hilariously wrong, pulling that as mafia... I dunno, it's ballsy? I'm not generally suspicious at all (just based on how other players are viewing me) so it's not like he's pouring fuel on the fire or anything.

So I at least have reasons for him living through the night so I can see more of him tomorrow.

How many vig claims have we had now? I remember someone saying earlier that they have believed exactly ZERO of the, what, 5 claims or something we've seen so far? And for good reason imo.

The issue becomes, how do you know you're GOING to be seeing more of him tomorrow? I am wary of giving too many players free passes to 'see' what they will do because that will often bite one in the ass (ie Kush). I'm not even sure I agree that his out-of-left field attack on you is ballsy at all. I don't know if scum have a reason to fear you atm. You've done a lot of decent posting, but not a lot of pushing/accusing, let's say? TBH I don't know who scum are afraid of atm. I can't really think of the major active posters who has done a great deal of pushing aside from maybe yamato.

I'm not a vig. I didn't claim vig, either.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 24 2013 01:10 GMT
#2619
Are we going to have modkills/replacments with the daypost? I'm not sure how fair it is to keep these slots going.... (DP/Onegu)
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
September 24 2013 01:11 GMT
#2620
heres how i feel
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