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On June 08 2011 02:45 GMarshal wrote: Again, those who believe scumatlarge's laughable claim, why has he not been shooting? Perhaps because he *can't*?
Then tell us, since you think bum's role claim is fake, what do you think his real role is?
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I hope people would read the thread. The sequence of events regarding sinani (check pages 62-75) for details
Sinani asks town to kill him Mig asks whether lynching Sinani would work (raises a ?) Sinani claims only a night kill will do so. Discussion goes on during the night on whether to kill him or nor.
In Day, Mig suddenly claims that he had not read the role for sinani properly and didn't see that his role only worked at night (raised a ?). He later reveals the role.
Sinani lurks since that point apart from fist-pounding Palmar and defending him. I hoped to make him slip-up by asking to reveal his role (and check the exact description between Sinani and Mig's claims) when he was on but he disappeared after my post and only replied after 7 hours.
That pretty much covers entirety of Sinani's play apart from jumping on once a day crying ' Why didn't you kill me town?'
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I am tired of trying to read the thread and doing analysis while it is near clear that no one cares to do. I will do my role-claim (great job making such a dumb role whoever it was) sometime later in the night.
As to people still wondering whether Batman and Joker were inserted by the host in the game, I created the Batman role and I am 60-70% sure that Joker's role was created by Varpulis (at a certain point after decon got my role idea). Check the initial part of the thread where varp initially made a role which he said was boring and then later said that he has made a new role which is much more interesting.
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Also, if Palmar flips scum, I am quite sure redFF is scum. Why? He knew of 2 DTs in the game (Chaos13 and Varp) and both of them died in the first night after red knew. Read his fist-pound shenanigans at the start of the day 3 as well. He started with accusing Palmar and asking no one to fistpounds to Palmar. But instantly after Palmar claimed his new role, he made a u-turn and gave him a fist-pound. There are multiple inconsistencies in his posting but no one gives a damn since no one reads the thread. He mason's Rean in D3 after being totally against him on D2 and N2.
Sinani is directly associated with Palmar also due to the fist-pounds which made absolute no sense considering there were given to a 'vigi' who had shot a DT so obviously outed the night before. Compound, Sinani's defense for Palmar (which was prolly his only contribution today), Sinani is most likely scum. If a townie had sinani's role where he was near immune to mafia hits and was green confirmed by town, he would probably do a lot analysis and make his role count. But, once Sinani was sure that we wont be lynched, he just lurked since then. Also, his roleblock claim and asking no one to shoot him much later during D3 seems suspicious since he would have seen and claimed that earlier.
Mataza is also likely scum based on his D3 behavior. When the bomb was set to explode at 24 hr mark, he was hardcore attacking Palmar and trying to bus him. Just after the deadline was changed, his posting changed a lot and also he made a post he was regretting his actions he did assuming a 24 hr bomb. Again, no one noticed since no one gives a damn apart from deciding who to shoot on next day. He and hiro were the only ones who defended Mr. Wiggles as well. I am giving 70-30 odds of him flipping scum.
Also, people missed Kurumi's 6 KP claim in N2. It is rather unlikely to be any assassins in the game since it would need atleast three assassins in the game to make it balanced for them. 3 KP (Palmar included) + 1 Kurumi + 1 GM + 1 Mafia + 1 Karshe - doesn't add up. Also, this assumes Bum has 0 KP and is lying about his powers and/or role.
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Also, I have yet to see a strong case against Torte apart from the weak suspicion based on the fact that he passively RB'd GM (which is outside his control and was confirmed by Meapak a confirmed townie). But, if you repeat someone is scum often enough, you have enough people on the bandwagon.
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And finally here is why lynching bum is a bad idea. What information that lynching bum reveal? Absolutely zilch,nada, nil. He is not even associated with anyone at this point since he was revealed N1). On the other, flipping Palmar provides a plethora of information to go on which can analyzed. I got bread-crumbed information that there is a possible vote-checker in town (don't ask where I got it) and since Palmar voted for VisceraEyes (whose list was possibly checked), his flip will again provide some interesting flip here.
Combining the fact Palmar has been anti-town, killed townies, and lied out of his ass with the point that his flip actually reveals a lot for late-game, and that he still has a KP, makes him an excellent lynch target.
Here's my case against him. And the rest of my suspect lists and analysis. Take it or leave it. I am not going to bother posting anymore till night-time. I know this a rather badly constructed post and I don't care since half the people wont bother to read it anyways.
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On June 08 2011 02:50 Cthsazsa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 02:49 Palmar wrote:On June 08 2011 02:40 redFF wrote: Here is what we do. Scumatlarge is the lynch Palmar shoot torte de lini Karshe bomb Torte De lini Medics on Karshe If torte de lini is not dead in the morning we lynch Palmar We might lynch Palmar even if Torte De Lini is dead in the morning Then Torte De Lini and Palmar are dead. ^.^ I agree with this plan. Well no shit, that plan means you'll get to live past tonight. Horrible plan.
Oh, yah, I didn't read that we were double stacking torte.
Anyway, if I live past the lynch, I will be shooting torte. No lists, no plans to avoid roleblocks or anything.
If the mafia protects him somehow, I will accept my fate and let you lynch me the next day, or even just eat the bomb that Karshe will likely stick on me.
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On June 08 2011 02:52 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 02:50 Cthsazsa wrote:On June 08 2011 02:49 Palmar wrote:On June 08 2011 02:40 redFF wrote: Here is what we do. Scumatlarge is the lynch Palmar shoot torte de lini Karshe bomb Torte De lini Medics on Karshe If torte de lini is not dead in the morning we lynch Palmar We might lynch Palmar even if Torte De Lini is dead in the morning Then Torte De Lini and Palmar are dead. ^.^ I agree with this plan. Well no shit, that plan means you'll get to live past tonight. Horrible plan. We control Palmar's shot, he shoots scum.
That's the problem. We can't "control" Palmar's shot.
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On June 08 2011 02:51 Karshe wrote: If we lynch Bum, mafia loses a member.
If we lynch Palmar, mafia loses a KP.
Why are you people voting Bum still...
You're wrong.
I'm not mafia.
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+ Show Spoiler +On June 08 2011 02:54 GMarshal wrote:![[image loading]](http://th05.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/118/d/7/death__the_grim_rider_by_scarypet-d1yrld6.jpg) Is me now. I'm pissed.
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you, after I don't flip scum.
Also, thanks for the compliment about SNMMII, but I have played this game terribly.
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On June 08 2011 02:53 Cthsazsa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 02:45 GMarshal wrote: Again, those who believe scumatlarge's laughable claim, why has he not been shooting? Perhaps because he *can't*? Then tell us, since you think bum's role claim is fake, what do you think his real role is? Hell if I know, maybe he lost his powers when batman died, perhaps he is a roleblocker, he could be a one shot vote rigger, or maybe a time traveling clown. That is fruitless speculation, what I do know is he has no kp, as he hasn't used them.
1.) he is mafia 2.) mafia need to use kp asap especially if they are going to die 3.) there are no unaccounted for kp 4.) therefore HE HAS NO KP.
End of that particular discussion
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Okay... This is coolbeans.
##Vote Palmar
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On June 08 2011 02:53 Eternalmisfit wrote: I hope people would read the thread. The sequence of events regarding sinani (check pages 62-75) for details
Sinani asks town to kill him Mig asks whether lynching Sinani would work (raises a ?) Sinani claims only a night kill will do so. Discussion goes on during the night on whether to kill him or nor.
In Day, Mig suddenly claims that he had not read the role for sinani properly and didn't see that his role only worked at night (raised a ?). He later reveals the role.
Sinani lurks since that point apart from fist-pounding Palmar and defending him. I hoped to make him slip-up by asking to reveal his role (and check the exact description between Sinani and Mig's claims) when he was on but he disappeared after my post and only replied after 7 hours.
That pretty much covers entirety of Sinani's play apart from jumping on once a day crying ' Why didn't you kill me town?'
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I am tired of trying to read the thread and doing analysis while it is near clear that no one cares to do. I will do my role-claim (great job making such a dumb role whoever it was) sometime later in the night.
As to people still wondering whether Batman and Joker were inserted by the host in the game, I created the Batman role and I am 60-70% sure that Joker's role was created by Varpulis (at a certain point after decon got my role idea). Check the initial part of the thread where varp initially made a role which he said was boring and then later said that he has made a new role which is much more interesting.
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Also, if Palmar flips scum, I am quite sure redFF is scum. Why? He knew of 2 DTs in the game (Chaos13 and Varp) and both of them died in the first night after red knew. Read his fist-pound shenanigans at the start of the day 3 as well. He started with accusing Palmar and asking no one to fistpounds to Palmar. But instantly after Palmar claimed his new role, he made a u-turn and gave him a fist-pound. There are multiple inconsistencies in his posting but no one gives a damn since no one reads the thread. He mason's Rean in D3 after being totally against him on D2 and N2.
Sinani is directly associated with Palmar also due to the fist-pounds which made absolute no sense considering there were given to a 'vigi' who had shot a DT so obviously outed the night before. Compound, Sinani's defense for Palmar (which was prolly his only contribution today), Sinani is most likely scum. If a townie had sinani's role where he was near immune to mafia hits and was green confirmed by town, he would probably do a lot analysis and make his role count. But, once Sinani was sure that we wont be lynched, he just lurked since then. Also, his roleblock claim and asking no one to shoot him much later during D3 seems suspicious since he would have seen and claimed that earlier.
Mataza is also likely scum based on his D3 behavior. When the bomb was set to explode at 24 hr mark, he was hardcore attacking Palmar and trying to bus him. Just after the deadline was changed, his posting changed a lot and also he made a post he was regretting his actions he did assuming a 24 hr bomb. Again, no one noticed since no one gives a damn apart from deciding who to shoot on next day. He and hiro were the only ones who defended Mr. Wiggles as well. I am giving 70-30 odds of him flipping scum.
Also, people missed Kurumi's 6 KP claim in N2. It is rather unlikely to be any assassins in the game since it would need atleast three assassins in the game to make it balanced for them. 3 KP (Palmar included) + 1 Kurumi + 1 GM + 1 Mafia + 1 Karshe - doesn't add up. Also, this assumes Bum has 0 KP and is lying about his powers and/or role.
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Also, I have yet to see a strong case against Torte apart from the weak suspicion based on the fact that he passively RB'd GM (which is outside his control and was confirmed by Meapak a confirmed townie). But, if you repeat someone is scum often enough, you have enough people on the bandwagon.
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And finally here is why lynching bum is a bad idea. What information that lynching bum reveal? Absolutely zilch,nada, nil. He is not even associated with anyone at this point since he was revealed N1). On the other, flipping Palmar provides a plethora of information to go on which can analyzed. I got bread-crumbed information that there is a possible vote-checker in town (don't ask where I got it) and since Palmar voted for VisceraEyes (whose list was possibly checked), his flip will again provide some interesting flip here.
Combining the fact Palmar has been anti-town, killed townies, and lied out of his ass with the point that his flip actually reveals a lot for late-game, and that he still has a KP, makes him an excellent lynch target.
Here's my case against him. And the rest of my suspect lists and analysis. Take it or leave it. I am not going to bother posting anymore till night-time. I know this a rather badly constructed post and I don't care since half the people wont bother to read it anyways.
On June 08 2011 02:52 GMarshal wrote:Why? Why do you want to lynch the guy who may or may not have a kp and is anti town over the guy who is anti-town and has a kp? dsjdsakdsjkdsfjk Why do you people have difficulty grasping this? I've explained it in small words. Ok, you know what? Fine, if the town is going to play crappy as hell so can I. I am declaring GM's unilateral martial law. I am going to begin inducting people who are playing notably crappy into my circle and executing them. This measure is to encourage people to think. I'm done persuading people of things, I talk with my guns now.
*sniff sniff* *wiggles his tail*
##vote: Palmer
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On June 08 2011 02:58 GMarshal wrote: 3.) there are no unaccounted for kp
The mafia one?
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I don't know why people are treating Palmar like confirmed mafia. Scumatlarge is more scummy. Yes they could both be scum, and neither of them are town, but bum is the better lynch. And then we follow my plan and Torte De lini is dead either by bomb or by night kill. We still lynch palmar there.
That said, if we lynch Palmar and he flips scum I can clear a bunch of people, I just don't think he will flip scum.
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On June 08 2011 02:59 redFF wrote: I don't know why people are treating Palmar like confirmed mafia. Scumatlarge is more scummy. Yes they could both be scum, and neither of them are town, but bum is the better lynch. And then we follow my plan and Torte De lini is dead either by bomb or by night kill. We still lynch palmar there.
That said, if we lynch Palmar and he flips scum I can clear a bunch of people, I just don't think he will flip scum.
RedFF stop fucking ignoring me. Where the hell's the proof that TDL is scum? Besides mildly lurking. But so has Sinani, and almost everyone seems to be ignoring that.
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Good game town,unless mafia pulls a miracle we just won. Bumatlarge Palmar Torte de Lini RedFF Varpulis sinani206 There can be more based on Mataza's flip,but I think he is rather town.
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Holy shit why am i scum???? Please explain somebody, please. Everything I have done and continue to do has towns best interests at heart.
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Also if anyone has a multilynch ability, please get around to use it. Everyday we get more confirmed anti town players and none of them die at night.
 
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On June 08 2011 03:05 redFF wrote: Holy shit why am i scum???? Please explain somebody, please. Everything I have done and continue to do has towns best interests at heart.
Because everytime someone questions you about you're FoS you avoid them, even though you're 100% sure they're scum.
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Hey lol i'm a mason i know shit because i can pm people derp. Maybe i don't want to out people to the thread. If you don't trust and see me as town yet then i dunno what to say.
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On June 08 2011 03:13 redFF wrote: Hey lol i'm a mason i know shit because i can pm people derp. Maybe i don't want to out people to the thread. If you don't trust and see me as town yet then i dunno what to say. Yeah because You out people in Your Mafia quicktopic/irc chat
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On June 08 2011 03:13 redFF wrote: Hey lol i'm a mason i know shit because i can pm people derp. Maybe i don't want to out people to the thread. If you don't trust and see me as town yet then i dunno what to say.
LMAO!!!
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