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Pink2
Profile Joined April 2011
23 Posts
April 29 2011 03:13 GMT
#221
We have to or risk it being useless. Thats the issue at hand.

//Pink2
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yellow1
Profile Joined April 2011
26 Posts
April 29 2011 03:25 GMT
#222
On April 29 2011 12:01 Protoss1 wrote:
Ok I'm awake and reviewing posts. We only have an hour to decide on using power, and I haven't really seen an agreement yet either way. Are we using it or not?


Look at the power and how it works. Do you think it should be used tonight? If so, then vote for it. Don't sheep, sheeping makes you bad mafia or bad town.
Protoss1
Profile Joined April 2011
47 Posts
April 29 2011 03:49 GMT
#223
Thanks for that super helpful post, Yellow. My vote means nothing without a majority decision.
Protoss1
Profile Joined April 2011
47 Posts
April 29 2011 03:51 GMT
#224
##: Use Power
Protoss1
Profile Joined April 2011
47 Posts
April 29 2011 03:51 GMT
#225
Oops, forgot to say Vote...

##Vote: Use Power
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 29 2011 04:12 GMT
#226
Sorry day post incoming. You can't use the power yet, it can be activated tomorrow night.
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purple2
Profile Joined April 2011
56 Posts
April 29 2011 04:17 GMT
#227
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 04:21:13
April 29 2011 04:20 GMT
#228
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Day 2

It was almost time for the lights to come back in the experiment chamber when the sounds of a scuffle broke out, then there were two thuds, and a crunching sound. The voice of meapak came into the chamber. "Day in 30 seconds." said meapak. As the lights flickered back on and the the room came back into the focus the body of Random4 lay on the ground. The crane descended and removed Random4 from the room. "Voting for Day 2 begins now." said meapak as the room took their last glimpses of Random4 before he faded into oblivion.

Random4 has died.


Day 2 begins now. 48 hours remain. The day will end at 05:00 GMT (+00:00)
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yellow1
Profile Joined April 2011
26 Posts
April 29 2011 04:22 GMT
#229
On April 29 2011 12:49 Protoss1 wrote:
Thanks for that super helpful post, Yellow. My vote means nothing without a majority decision.


Not gonna get far with that attitude. My post was extremely helpful. Ignore it at your peril.
Blue1
Profile Joined April 2011
71 Posts
April 29 2011 04:57 GMT
#230
Gratz to the medic for doing a great job tonight. Looking at the kill tonight, I have to ask myself who the second target was. After pink's analysis, I think it's very likely that it was me, so assuming me and random were the targets tonight, I wonder who would benefit from this the most. Me and random were on purples list, but he seems to be a vet and wouldn't hit us because that would pretty much make him very suspicious. That makes purple very likely to be town. So the question is, who would benefit from making purple very suspicious?
The best answer I can come up with is newbie mafia protoss. It's a very linear way of thinking. I was tuneling him hard in the begining so it makes sense for him to get rid of me and at the same trying to make purple look suspicious because both me and random were in his list. I'll post a more detailed analysis of his posts tomorrow, because right now I'm going to bed.
Random4
Profile Joined April 2011
24 Posts
April 29 2011 05:57 GMT
#231
GO TOWN WOOOO SHAKE YOUR

Groove thang.
Orange2
Profile Joined April 2011
103 Posts
April 29 2011 08:06 GMT
#232
On April 29 2011 13:57 Blue1 wrote:
Gratz to the medic for doing a great job tonight. Looking at the kill tonight, I have to ask myself who the second target was. After pink's analysis, I think it's very likely that it was me, so assuming me and random were the targets tonight, I wonder who would benefit from this the most. Me and random were on purples list, but he seems to be a vet and wouldn't hit us because that would pretty much make him very suspicious. That makes purple very likely to be town. So the question is, who would benefit from making purple very suspicious?
The best answer I can come up with is newbie mafia protoss. It's a very linear way of thinking. I was tuneling him hard in the begining so it makes sense for him to get rid of me and at the same trying to make purple look suspicious because both me and random were in his list. I'll post a more detailed analysis of his posts tomorrow, because right now I'm going to bed.


I don't like this post for a bunch of reasons

1.) Gratz to the medic for doing a great job tonight.
congratulating the medic is the oldest scum tell in the book, its old so its obviously not as valuable now that it is well known, but seeing it still sets off alarms.

2.) Assumptions about the kills
If playing mafia has taught me anything is to not try to outguess mafia, when you don't who they are it is useless to try to guess their motives or actions since we don't have as much information as they do. Unless you are a veteran and were notified that you were hit (and I dont know if they are, the OP is unclear) then saying it was probably you is basically pulling it out of your ass, it could have easily been aimed at pink or myself as well, coming up with assumptions based on that and using them to try determine the motives of the mafia is bad play at best, scummy at worst.

3.) Based on point 2, its a content less post, as everything from "assuming me and random were the targets tonight" is utterly worthless.

4.) It draws up a clear relationship between blue and purple based on nothing.
what is interesting is that this post tries to bring credit to both blue and purple, suggesting a possible relationship there. Take note of it, it may be relevant later.

If you are going to draw conclusions based on kills, do them on the ones you know happened, not on the ones you think might have been attempted, to do otherwise is not only foolish, but suspicious.

Looking over Randoms posts in a bit.
Orange2
Profile Joined April 2011
103 Posts
April 29 2011 08:19 GMT
#233
Two major points from random's posts stick out to me at the moment
1.) He too thinks green is scum, and tries to push his lynch at the last minute
2.) He was not sold on pink being town and wanted to reevaluate him, although he agreed blue was probably town

This is interesting as it leads me on to two different trains of thought

1.) green may be scum and is trying to shoot those who accused him, or the mafia is trying to make green look even worse. I personally am sold on green being scum. I await his defense of himself of course, and it may change my mind, but for now I think he is scum #1.

2.) Pink may not be as pro-town as his first post indicates and wants to avoid scrutiny, so he shot Random in the hope of people missing that association. That dosn't auto make pink scum, or even necessarily implicate him, but I will be keeping my eye on him based on that alone.

oh and in the previous post I forgot the blue is trying to give himself town cred by painting himself as a target of the mafia.

If anyone thinks I missed anything in random's posts please point it out, the # 1 mistake TL towns make is not seeing what dead people said, people usually die for a reason
Orange2
Profile Joined April 2011
103 Posts
April 29 2011 08:25 GMT
#234
All that said I think its time to turn up the fire under green.

Hi scum! You have all of 48 hours to convince me you don't belong in the incinerator, which is were I put mafia normally. I hope your defense/contributions are of epic proportions

##Vote:Green
Pink2
Profile Joined April 2011
23 Posts
April 29 2011 08:49 GMT
#235
Fellow subjects, I have some more math for you. After the realization that we couldn't use the town power today, we absolutely MUST use it tomorrow night. We also have to bank on blocking another shot, unfortunately.

Here's the rundown on how we must act:

No more blocks, no scum lynched d1/2:
D1: 11, N1: 10, D2: 9, N2: 8, [Activate] D3: 6 MYLO.

No more blocks, one scum lynched d1/2:
D1: 11, N1: 10, D2: 9, N2: 8, [Activate] D3: 6, N3:5, D4: 4 MYLO.

One more block, no scum lynched d1/2:
D1: 11, N1: 10, D2: 9, N2: 8, [Activate] D3: 7, N3: 6, D4: 5 LYLO.

One more block, one scum lynched d1/2:
D1: 11, N1: 10, D2: 9, N2: 8, [Activate] D3: 7, N3: 6, D4: 5, N4: 4, D5: 3 LYLO.


At MYLO, we must no-lynch unless we are certain of scum. In my first post, I touched on why DT reads are less-than useful. There are too many false-read roles in this game to lynch based off a DT check. Barring substantial scum-reads, D3 we have to mass claim. no lynch, take the hit, and vote correctly D:4 (as well as firing any vig shots remaining). If you are a vig, its ok to lie.


Orange, can you explain this a little more?
2.) Pink may not be as pro-town as his first post indicates and wants to avoid scrutiny, so he shot Random in the hope of people missing that association. That dosn't auto make pink scum, or even necessarily implicate him, but I will be keeping my eye on him based on that alone.

What association?

//Pink2
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Orange2
Profile Joined April 2011
103 Posts
April 29 2011 08:53 GMT
#236
On April 29 2011 01:47 Random4 wrote:
but I'm not putting pink in the townie circle.


Its small, perhaps an single insignificant phrase, but the devil is in the details.
Basically Random4 was the only one to cast even a bit of doubt on you pink, was that why he died? I can't know, but its an interesting thing to consider.
Pink2
Profile Joined April 2011
23 Posts
April 29 2011 09:02 GMT
#237
He supported my plan, but also found a big flaw: Here. If I were scum, why would I hit someone who was agreeing with me? I would think that you would focus more of your attention on yellow's immediate response.

//Pink2
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Orange2
Profile Joined April 2011
103 Posts
April 29 2011 09:03 GMT
#238
While we are at it pink, who do you think is scum, and why? So far the bulk of your posts have been math, its good that we've figured out how to best use the reveal power, but we need to scumhunt if we want to stand a chance at victory.

Pink2
Profile Joined April 2011
23 Posts
April 29 2011 09:12 GMT
#239
I'm a very math-oriented person, and I've always been much more interested in the game theory ^^. But lets see...

I think Yellow deserves more attention. Most of his posts have been one-liners, but he keeps up enough activity to seem... active lol.

Zerg is also a suspect who has completely dropped off the map. Not sure what to read into that.

And if there is a traitor in this game, I suspect that its you, Orange, which worries me slightly, as it is the goal of the traitor to encourage LYLO as quickly as possible.

//Pink2
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Pink2
Profile Joined April 2011
23 Posts
April 29 2011 09:15 GMT
#240
Also, whatsup with this night vote?

On April 28 2011 21:45 green2 wrote:
##Vote Zerg1


//Pink2
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