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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 18 2011 22:40 GMT
#221
We can not play this like a regular mafia game and only use suicide if we are almost certain.

11player, 1 medic, 3 mafia. This setup is imbalance and mafia will win most of the time.

Giving vanilla townie the ability to bomb is the balancer to the game. If town hesitate to do anything, mafia holds the advantage.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 18 2011 22:44 GMT
#222
No fucking point discussing it further, chaoser and LunarDestiny is dead, and while I agree with GMarshal, nothing seems able to convince LD otherwise.

LD and chaoser, if you want to help out atleast give us your thoughts on people.
Bartundar
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 18 2011 22:46 GMT
#223
well, unless you or chaoser are red then the setup just tilted more in the mafias favor, notice how I said it should only be used if we are almost certain? That means that much like a vigi shot we should save it for when we know we are going to get something out of it.
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GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
February 18 2011 22:47 GMT
#224
Ace's advice was that when town picked two top suspects, one should suicide the other removing both top suspects and almost certainly killing a mafia. That's not what happened here, which is why this wasn't a good situation. Forcing chaoser to explode was premature, and we probably just lost two fanatics.

If so, we have to look at our options. we lynch today and hit lylo tomorrow, or we no lynch today and hit mylo tomorrow. Either way, if we misbomb or mislynch tomorrow, we lose. We can no lynch two days in a row, which would give us the most discussion time, but then we get no kills and mafia get two kills. I suggest lynching today, which gives us the power to choose one of the two kills before we hit lylo. Also I'd like to point out that lylo isn't quite so scary in this game, since, if we are about to lynch a fanatic he can always explode and hopefully give us another chance.

Of course, if either chaoser or LunarDestiny is mafia, then we still have a mislynch before lylo.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 18 2011 22:49 GMT
#225
Lurkers: This setup makes lurkers want to lurk more. They ARE afraid of being called out and ARE very afraid to be forced to shoot.

Those who promote Lynch over Suicide scummy.

Also, suicide is not like vig shot. Every vanilla townie can suicide, mafia can not. Use this point to hunt mafia and those who say suicide is bad are scummy.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 18 2011 22:51 GMT
#226
What the heck happened. Why Lunar? if you are going to do that do it closer to the deadline at least, but threatening someone to go boom just makes you into a into a target. Do we know if they are both green or are we still waiting for the host to post?
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 18 2011 22:52 GMT
#227
I'm done arguing with you LD, just look where your "logic" has put us.

Anyway the day is extended by 24 hours so we should discuss lynch options

just a list of people I want to hear from

1 Coagulation
2 Original Name
3 Amber[LighT]
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 18 2011 22:52 GMT
#228
On February 19 2011 07:49 LunarDestiny wrote:
Lurkers: This setup makes lurkers want to lurk more. They ARE afraid of being called out and ARE very afraid to be forced to shoot.

Those who promote Lynch over Suicide scummy.

Also, suicide is not like vig shot. Every vanilla townie can suicide, mafia can not. Use this point to hunt mafia and those who say suicide is bad are scummy.


Or everyone contributes but mafia just would contribute in an unhelpful way. And by that logic shouldn't you have blown up a lurker and not me? Coag hasn't posted a single useful thing but can get by with a "that's just the way he is" while me playing my normal game makes it mean "he's mafia"? Retarded...
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 18 2011 22:53 GMT
#229
On February 19 2011 07:51 darmousseh wrote:
What the heck happened. Why Lunar? if you are going to do that do it closer to the deadline at least, but threatening someone to go boom just makes you into a into a target. Do we know if they are both green or are we still waiting for the host to post?


we are waiting on the host, but they are almost certainly both green
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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 18 2011 22:56 GMT
#230
On February 19 2011 07:52 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2011 07:49 LunarDestiny wrote:
Lurkers: This setup makes lurkers want to lurk more. They ARE afraid of being called out and ARE very afraid to be forced to shoot.

Those who promote Lynch over Suicide scummy.

Also, suicide is not like vig shot. Every vanilla townie can suicide, mafia can not. Use this point to hunt mafia and those who say suicide is bad are scummy.


Or everyone contributes but mafia just would contribute in an unhelpful way. And by that logic shouldn't you have blown up a lurker and not me? Coag hasn't posted a single useful thing but can get by with a "that's just the way he is" while me playing my normal game makes it mean "he's mafia"? Retarded...

I was forcing you to blow up someone who you think is mafia. Not me. You blew me.

If I am mafia, why did I expose myself. I could have easily post something not in favor of you and vote you. There's 4 votes right there.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 18 2011 22:57 GMT
#231
Actually some really nice posts being written now, seems like this actually woke up town. I agree with LD's criterium, and I agree with GGQ's plan suggestion... and I agree with GMarshals list.
Bartundar
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 18 2011 22:58 GMT
#232
On February 19 2011 07:49 LunarDestiny wrote:
Lurkers: This setup makes lurkers want to lurk more. They ARE afraid of being called out and ARE very afraid to be forced to shoot.

Those who promote Lynch over Suicide scummy.

Also, suicide is not like vig shot. Every vanilla townie can suicide, mafia can not. Use this point to hunt mafia and those who say suicide is bad are scummy.


Statistcally speaking wouldn't the mafia want people to use their suicide ability since in a simple RNG, they would be more likely to hit a townie? You gotta think of the suicide ability as a tool to pressure people and as a last resort to kill mafia, otherwise we are just shortening the game. Maybe what you did was fine (if chaoser is red), but otherwise I think you did it way too early. One thing though is that you are right about using our suicide ability to pressure people to see if they are mafia, but you did it too soon and it's harder to get any information from it.

##Unvote
##Vote: No lynch
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 18 2011 23:01 GMT
#233
On February 19 2011 07:56 LunarDestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2011 07:52 chaoser wrote:
On February 19 2011 07:49 LunarDestiny wrote:
Lurkers: This setup makes lurkers want to lurk more. They ARE afraid of being called out and ARE very afraid to be forced to shoot.

Those who promote Lynch over Suicide scummy.

Also, suicide is not like vig shot. Every vanilla townie can suicide, mafia can not. Use this point to hunt mafia and those who say suicide is bad are scummy.


Or everyone contributes but mafia just would contribute in an unhelpful way. And by that logic shouldn't you have blown up a lurker and not me? Coag hasn't posted a single useful thing but can get by with a "that's just the way he is" while me playing my normal game makes it mean "he's mafia"? Retarded...

I was forcing you to blow up someone who you think is mafia. Not me. You blew me.

If I am mafia, why did I expose myself. I could have easily post something not in favor of you and vote you. There's 4 votes right there.


Cause i wasn't SURE who was mafia. I didn't want to go about blowing people up that weren't mafia not to mention I barely had any time to think about the situation, I had like half an hour from reading your post to the deadline you posted. Also why the fuck would you do it this early, at least do it when we only have 2 hours left or something. We had 5 hours dude. It was 3 votes on me with 4 people yet to vote. That's not deep shit at all.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 18 2011 23:03 GMT
#234
Reference game right here: Link

As Mafia:
-NightKill is King. Use it every night to take town out.
-Never volunteered to shoot.
-Mafia without gun lurked like HELL.
-Survival is key.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 18 2011 23:08 GMT
#235
On February 19 2011 08:03 LunarDestiny wrote:
Reference game right here: Link

As Mafia:
-NightKill is King. Use it every night to take town out.
-Never volunteered to shoot.
-Mafia without gun lurked like HELL.
-Survival is key.


so you blow up the guy who was the FIRST to say he'd blow someone up...
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-18 23:27:38
February 18 2011 23:26 GMT
#236
On February 19 2011 06:49 chaoser wrote:
tock =O

##Kill: LunarDestiny

let's go on an adventure


Oops

Lunar Destiny the Fanatic has died
Chaoser the Fanatic died


Day has been extended 24 hours to 11:00 KST Tomorrow / 15:00 GMT (+00:00)

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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 18 2011 23:28 GMT
#237
ok, so can we all agree to keep our hands well away from our detonators unless we are sure we are going to hit scum?
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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 18 2011 23:35 GMT
#238
Fantastic job folks.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 18 2011 23:45 GMT
#239
On February 19 2011 08:35 Coagulation wrote:
Fantastic job folks.


Thanks for the awesome contribution, so who do you think is most likely to be scum coag, what is your opinion on using suicide bombings to get mafia targets? Should we not lynch today since we already lost two townies or should we go for the lynch hoping we have enough information to hit scum?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 19 2011 00:18 GMT
#240
A couple of sacrificial bambs right there. That made no sense whatsoever.

If I am about to be lynched I will take somebody with me. But I won't boom until a minute before deadline. And I wont turn it into a two page pissing contest.

GGQ and Amber Light are high on my list. One is awol and the other posts volumes of nothing.
Life can only kill you once.
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