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GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
February 19 2011 00:32 GMT
#241
I highly recommend that we lynch today, or we will be on mylo tomorrow, which is just lylo with an extra person to consider. I realised that we can't even expect to no lynch tomorrow, since we can only opt for a no lynch by tying the vote, which would allow mafia to switch the vote at the last second tomorrow. If you aren't following me, that just means that we are definitely best off lynching today. We still have more than 24 hours to consider, so let's start working on our choice.

My suspicion is on Coagulation and OriginalName, who have spoken the least. Speak up.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 19 2011 00:36 GMT
#242
ON MY 4000th POST SOMEONE WILL DIE.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 19 2011 00:38 GMT
#243
On February 19 2011 09:32 GGQ wrote:
I highly recommend that we lynch today, or we will be on mylo tomorrow, which is just lylo with an extra person to consider. I realised that we can't even expect to no lynch tomorrow, since we can only opt for a no lynch by tying the vote, which would allow mafia to switch the vote at the last second tomorrow. If you aren't following me, that just means that we are definitely best off lynching today. We still have more than 24 hours to consider, so let's start working on our choice.

My suspicion is on Coagulation and OriginalName, who have spoken the least. Speak up.

Scum would.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 19 2011 01:03 GMT
#244
Oh and before I forget
##Unvote
##Vote: No lynch
Life can only kill you once.
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
February 19 2011 01:10 GMT
#245
Lol.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
February 19 2011 01:14 GMT
#246
On February 19 2011 09:38 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2011 09:32 GGQ wrote:
I highly recommend that we lynch today, or we will be on mylo tomorrow, which is just lylo with an extra person to consider. I realised that we can't even expect to no lynch tomorrow, since we can only opt for a no lynch by tying the vote, which would allow mafia to switch the vote at the last second tomorrow. If you aren't following me, that just means that we are definitely best off lynching today. We still have more than 24 hours to consider, so let's start working on our choice.

My suspicion is on Coagulation and OriginalName, who have spoken the least. Speak up.

Scum would.


Did you not read my post at all? What justification do you have for saying that? Logic, please.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 19 2011 01:16 GMT
#247
On February 19 2011 10:14 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2011 09:38 Jackal58 wrote:
On February 19 2011 09:32 GGQ wrote:
I highly recommend that we lynch today, or we will be on mylo tomorrow, which is just lylo with an extra person to consider. I realised that we can't even expect to no lynch tomorrow, since we can only opt for a no lynch by tying the vote, which would allow mafia to switch the vote at the last second tomorrow. If you aren't following me, that just means that we are definitely best off lynching today. We still have more than 24 hours to consider, so let's start working on our choice.

My suspicion is on Coagulation and OriginalName, who have spoken the least. Speak up.

Scum would.


Did you not read my post at all? What justification do you have for saying that? Logic, please.

Yes please.
Life can only kill you once.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
February 19 2011 01:19 GMT
#248
On February 19 2011 10:16 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2011 10:14 GGQ wrote:
On February 19 2011 09:38 Jackal58 wrote:
On February 19 2011 09:32 GGQ wrote:
I highly recommend that we lynch today, or we will be on mylo tomorrow, which is just lylo with an extra person to consider. I realised that we can't even expect to no lynch tomorrow, since we can only opt for a no lynch by tying the vote, which would allow mafia to switch the vote at the last second tomorrow. If you aren't following me, that just means that we are definitely best off lynching today. We still have more than 24 hours to consider, so let's start working on our choice.

My suspicion is on Coagulation and OriginalName, who have spoken the least. Speak up.

Scum would.


Did you not read my post at all? What justification do you have for saying that? Logic, please.

Yes please.


the fuck?
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
February 19 2011 01:22 GMT
#249
On February 19 2011 09:36 Coagulation wrote:
ON MY 4000th POST SOMEONE WILL DIE.

Are you saying that you are going to use your 4000th post to blow someone up, so you are restricting yourself to using only one post to help us before that? You've been perhaps the least pro-town player in this game, btw.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 19 2011 01:22 GMT
#250
Everybody in the game has a basic grasp of arithmetic. Revisit your logic.
Life can only kill you once.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
February 19 2011 01:42 GMT
#251
On February 19 2011 10:22 Jackal58 wrote:
Everybody in the game has a basic grasp of arithmetic. Revisit your logic.


Alright, I'll go over it again, slower for you.

If we lynch today, it will be 4v3. If we don't, it will be 5v3. Either way, we will have to lynch tomorrow and we will have to get that lynch correct or we lose (we can't safely 'no lynch' tomorrow, even if it's 5v3, because of the way the lynch mechanics work in this game). That means that if we lynch tonight, it is a free extra kill in the hands of town. We are not in a mathematically worse position if we mislynch tonight because we will be looking at a game-ending lynch tomorrow whether we mislynch or 'no lynch'. If we 'no lynch' tonight, we are simply depriving town of an opportunity to try to lynch scum first. I can't see how taking a killing power away from town benefits us.

Not only does lynching make sense mathematically, it also provides town with an opportunity for discussion. If we no lynch tonight, then that's all that's going to happen. We get no more information until the mafia picks their kill tonight. By deciding on a lynch, we will get arguments, debates, and analysis, all of which will help us scumhunt. For both of these reasons, lynching tonight is far superior to not lynching.

Now, please, show me the problems in my logic.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 19 2011 01:58 GMT
#252
In any event we need to use the lynch possibility to pressure people.

OriginalName earlier argued against a no lynch sollution, but now he seems to have changed his mind.

Coagulation has not shown any intent of helping the town. This is unlike his play in mafia xxxvi, where he actually contributed. He has so far only threatened to blow up people that questioned him.

##Unvote
##Vote Coagulation
Bartundar
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 19 2011 02:11 GMT
#253
On February 19 2011 10:42 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2011 10:22 Jackal58 wrote:
Everybody in the game has a basic grasp of arithmetic. Revisit your logic.


Alright, I'll go over it again, slower for you.

If we lynch today, it will be 4v3. If we don't, it will be 5v3. Either way, we will have to lynch tomorrow and we will have to get that lynch correct or we lose (we can't safely 'no lynch' tomorrow, even if it's 5v3, because of the way the lynch mechanics work in this game). That means that if we lynch tonight, it is a free extra kill in the hands of town. We are not in a mathematically worse position if we mislynch tonight because we will be looking at a game-ending lynch tomorrow whether we mislynch or 'no lynch'. If we 'no lynch' tonight, we are simply depriving town of an opportunity to try to lynch scum first. I can't see how taking a killing power away from town benefits us.

Not only does lynching make sense mathematically, it also provides town with an opportunity for discussion. If we no lynch tonight, then that's all that's going to happen. We get no more information until the mafia picks their kill tonight. By deciding on a lynch, we will get arguments, debates, and analysis, all of which will help us scumhunt. For both of these reasons, lynching tonight is far superior to not lynching.

Now, please, show me the problems in my logic.

You're doing scummy math.
Life can only kill you once.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 19 2011 02:14 GMT
#254
I'll go for the pressure vote as well
##Unvote
##Vote Original Name


now contribute something! what are your thoughts on the whole situation?
Moderator
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 19 2011 02:16 GMT
#255
On February 19 2011 11:11 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2011 10:42 GGQ wrote:
On February 19 2011 10:22 Jackal58 wrote:
Everybody in the game has a basic grasp of arithmetic. Revisit your logic.


Alright, I'll go over it again, slower for you.

If we lynch today, it will be 4v3. If we don't, it will be 5v3. Either way, we will have to lynch tomorrow and we will have to get that lynch correct or we lose (we can't safely 'no lynch' tomorrow, even if it's 5v3, because of the way the lynch mechanics work in this game). That means that if we lynch tonight, it is a free extra kill in the hands of town. We are not in a mathematically worse position if we mislynch tonight because we will be looking at a game-ending lynch tomorrow whether we mislynch or 'no lynch'. If we 'no lynch' tonight, we are simply depriving town of an opportunity to try to lynch scum first. I can't see how taking a killing power away from town benefits us.

Not only does lynching make sense mathematically, it also provides town with an opportunity for discussion. If we no lynch tonight, then that's all that's going to happen. We get no more information until the mafia picks their kill tonight. By deciding on a lynch, we will get arguments, debates, and analysis, all of which will help us scumhunt. For both of these reasons, lynching tonight is far superior to not lynching.

Now, please, show me the problems in my logic.

You're doing scummy math.

Show me the non-scummy math then jackal! you insist on keeping your suspicion on people with actually supporting it at all, please show me your pro-town mathematical ability
Moderator
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
February 19 2011 03:00 GMT
#256
On February 19 2011 11:14 GMarshal wrote:
I'll go for the pressure vote as well
##Unvote
##Vote Original Name


now contribute something! what are your thoughts on the whole situation?


Hey I said I was going to be inactive for the next while so give me a break.

On our current situation-

Right now Town is at a clear disadvantage and the popular targets seem to be:

GGQ
Amber[light]
Coagulation

And for some people very possibly myself due to my weird schedule and just when I find time to post.

Coag is just odd in his playstyle right now he's probably my biggest fear for town so I really don't know what to think about him. Amber I believe is town and GGQ inreally need to look over more If something of his catches my eye I'll make another post soon

We need to solidfy a lynch target now or not at all.

Remember, they are coming.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 19 2011 03:05 GMT
#257
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 19 2011 12:00 OriginalName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2011 11:14 GMarshal wrote:
I'll go for the pressure vote as well
##Unvote
##Vote Original Name


now contribute something! what are your thoughts on the whole situation?


Hey I said I was going to be inactive for the next while so give me a break.

On our current situation-

Right now Town is at a clear disadvantage and the popular targets seem to be:

GGQ
Amber[light]
Coagulation

And for some people very possibly myself due to my weird schedule and just when I find time to post.

Coag is just odd in his playstyle right now he's probably my biggest fear for town so I really don't know what to think about him. Amber I believe is town and GGQ inreally need to look over more If something of his catches my eye I'll make another post soon

We need to solidfy a lynch target now or not at all.

Remember, they are coming.


Apologies, I missed that you said you were going to be inactive, although I don't consider it a very good excuse I can give you a pass on it, your post is pretty good so for now I'll give you a free pass

for now coag you haven't contributed at, so post more please

## unvote
##vote coagulation
Moderator
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 19 2011 03:15 GMT
#258
On February 19 2011 11:16 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2011 11:11 Jackal58 wrote:
On February 19 2011 10:42 GGQ wrote:
On February 19 2011 10:22 Jackal58 wrote:
Everybody in the game has a basic grasp of arithmetic. Revisit your logic.


Alright, I'll go over it again, slower for you.

If we lynch today, it will be 4v3. If we don't, it will be 5v3. Either way, we will have to lynch tomorrow and we will have to get that lynch correct or we lose (we can't safely 'no lynch' tomorrow, even if it's 5v3, because of the way the lynch mechanics work in this game). That means that if we lynch tonight, it is a free extra kill in the hands of town. We are not in a mathematically worse position if we mislynch tonight because we will be looking at a game-ending lynch tomorrow whether we mislynch or 'no lynch'. If we 'no lynch' tonight, we are simply depriving town of an opportunity to try to lynch scum first. I can't see how taking a killing power away from town benefits us.

Not only does lynching make sense mathematically, it also provides town with an opportunity for discussion. If we no lynch tonight, then that's all that's going to happen. We get no more information until the mafia picks their kill tonight. By deciding on a lynch, we will get arguments, debates, and analysis, all of which will help us scumhunt. For both of these reasons, lynching tonight is far superior to not lynching.

Now, please, show me the problems in my logic.

You're doing scummy math.

Show me the non-scummy math then jackal! you insist on keeping your suspicion on people with actually supporting it at all, please show me your pro-town mathematical ability

If you don't see the bias in that post I can't help you. I'm simply searching for the third now.
Life can only kill you once.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 19 2011 03:16 GMT
#259
lawl @ jackal
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 19 2011 03:34 GMT
#260
Ok, jackal lets look at whats the current situation is ok?
There are originally 11 players, 3 scum 7 town 1 medic
1. medic
2. town
3. town
4. town
5. town
6. town
7. town
8 town
9 scum
10 scum
11 scum

now chaoser and ld bomb each other so two town die leaving us with:

1. medic
2. town
3. town
4. town
5. town
6. town
9 scum
10 scum
11 scum

lets assume a mislynch, a terrible one, we hang the medic

2. town
3. town
4. town
5. town
6. town
9 scum
10 scum
11 scum
that leaves 5 town 3 scum, scum have 1 kp so the next day we have

3. town
4. town
5. town
6. town
9 scum
10 scum
11 scum

hence lyol, best case scenario we lynch right and also bomb a mafia leaving us with
5. town
6. town
9 scum
at the end of the night

Lets see what happens if we don't lynch today

1. medic
2. town
3. town
4. town
5. town
6. town
9 scum
10 scum
11 scum

then over night lets assume no medic save, in fact lets say mafia get lucky and kill the medic

2. town
3. town
4. town
5. town
6. town
9 scum
10 scum
11 scum

then if we mislynch and assuming no medic save/dead medic, we get a 3/3 tie which means mafia wins

hence it is in our best interest to lynch someone today

please point out where this math is scummy jackal, as of right now I'm tempted to FoS you, the only thing that is keeping me from voting against you is the fact I dont think this is your style when you are mafia, you are far less aggressive when you are
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