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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
On February 19 2011 12:34 GMarshal wrote: Ok, jackal lets look at whats the current situation is ok? There are originally 11 players, 3 scum 7 town 1 medic 1. medic 2. town 3. town 4. town 5. town 6. town 7. town 8 town 9 scum 10 scum 11 scum now chaoser and ld bomb each other so two town die leaving us with: 1. medic 2. town 3. town 4. town 5. town 6. town 9 scum 10 scum 11 scum lets assume a mislynch, a terrible one, we hang the medic 2. town 3. town 4. town 5. town 6. town 9 scum 10 scum 11 scum that leaves 5 town 3 scum, scum have 1 kp so the next day we have 3. town 4. town 5. town 6. town 9 scum 10 scum 11 scum hence lyol, best case scenario we lynch right and also bomb a mafia leaving us with 5. town 6. town 9 scum at the end of the night Lets see what happens if we don't lynch today 1. medic 2. town 3. town 4. town 5. town 6. town 9 scum 10 scum 11 scum then over night lets assume no medic save, in fact lets say mafia get lucky and kill the medic 2. town 3. town 4. town 5. town 6. town 9 scum 10 scum 11 scum then if we mislynch and assuming no medic save/dead medic, we get a 3/3 tie which means mafia wins hence it is in our best interest to lynch someone today please point out where this math is scummy jackal, as of right now I'm tempted to FoS you, the only thing that is keeping me from voting against you is the fact I dont think this is your style when you are mafia, you are far less aggressive when you are This looks correct to me. Now to identify the correct target. Probably at least 1 of the mafia is lurking and so I think going after a lurker is the best bet. I think that Amber[light] Coagulation Are the most lurky. Coag has yet to contribute at all and amber's posts were mostly fluff, but he's probably a bad townie. Coag has mostly been threatening everyone and I think it's time to put pressure on coag, if only to get him to analyze with us more. Saying something like "On my 4000th post someone is going to die" doesn't help us at all. For now, i'm putting coag, if he gives good analysis or something other than "Die everyone" then I will probably switch. I have an idea of someone else who is playing scummy, but I'm waiting for them to post again to see if my suspicions are true. ##Unvote ##Vote: Coagulation | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On February 19 2011 12:34 GMarshal wrote: Ok, jackal lets look at whats the current situation is ok? There are originally 11 players, 3 scum 7 town 1 medic 1. medic 2. town 3. town 4. town 5. town 6. town 7. town 8 town 9 scum 10 scum 11 scum now chaoser and ld bomb each other so two town die leaving us with: 1. medic 2. town 3. town 4. town 5. town 6. town 9 scum 10 scum 11 scum lets assume a mislynch, a terrible one, we hang the medic 2. town 3. town 4. town 5. town 6. town 9 scum 10 scum 11 scum that leaves 5 town 3 scum, scum have 1 kp so the next day we have 3. town 4. town 5. town 6. town 9 scum 10 scum 11 scum hence lyol, best case scenario we lynch right and also bomb a mafia leaving us with 5. town 6. town 9 scum at the end of the night Lets see what happens if we don't lynch today 1. medic 2. town 3. town 4. town 5. town 6. town 9 scum 10 scum 11 scum then over night lets assume no medic save, in fact lets say mafia get lucky and kill the medic 2. town 3. town 4. town 5. town 6. town 9 scum 10 scum 11 scum then if we mislynch and assuming no medic save/dead medic, we get a 3/3 tie which means mafia wins hence it is in our best interest to lynch someone today please point out where this math is scummy jackal, as of right now I'm tempted to FoS you, the only thing that is keeping me from voting against you is the fact I dont think this is your style when you are mafia, you are far less aggressive when you are No it isn't. How the hell do we go from 5-3 with mafia kp to 3-3 ?????? New math is stupid. | ||
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
2. town 3. town 4. town 5. town 6. town 9 scum 10 scum 11 scum in the morning, assume one townsperson is lynched , this is who is left at the beginning of the night 3. town 4. town 5. town 6. town 9 scum 10 scum 11 scum then, that night, mafia kill someone leading to 4. town 5. town 6. town 9 scum 10 scum 11 scum is that more clear now? | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
4-3 Day 2 3-3 Night 2 We lose If we lynch and suck 6-3 Night 1 5-3 Day 2 4-3 Night 2 3-3 Day 3 we lose If we don't lynch and suck. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
On February 19 2011 13:11 Jackal58 wrote: 5-3 Night 1 4-3 Day 2 3-3 Night 2 We lose If we lynch and suck 6-3 Night 1 5-3 Day 2 4-3 Night 2 3-3 Day 3 we lose If we don't lynch and suck. i think that's what gmarshal was saying but with more text. I would think we need to lynch since even if we mislynch(at worst) we still have another shot. If we don't lynch we only have 1 shot total to win. Now that it's established we need to lynch, we need a WHO. I'm going to stick with coag (and secondary amber) until they post more. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On February 19 2011 13:13 GMarshal wrote: right, so both times we lose by the morning of day 3, so we may as well lynch today Ya really little difference if we suck. If we are going to push a lynch I'm going for Amber Light. ##Unvote no lynch ##VOTE: Amber Light | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
I really don't think lynching anyone is a good idea, but maybe GGQ & GMarshall are right at this point. If we don't lynch we're losing the ability to take out a potential mafia. I also don't think our odds are that good, but I think GGQ went a little off-base with his "4v3" thing. Was that a mafia slip up? He seemed pretty confident that we're going to miss today if we lynch. I'm a little flattered that Jackal is still going after me, but it's really becoming annoying. It's so obvious that there's better candidates and he's convinced himself that I'm creating this elaborate scheme. He has no basis for voting for me and refutes EVERYTHING I say without much consideration. It's saddening to see someone play with such obvious scumtells. I've been saying this from the beginning yet people are ignoring him as a threat to the town. Darmo is beginning to get into Jackal territory. If you have a problem with my plans please start posting why and we can begin discussing them or you're going to be just as much of a suspect as Jackal is to me. Anyone know where Deconduo is at? He seemed to run off after this post. On February 19 2011 07:05 deconduo wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote No lynch Obviously this will change if one of them is red. Why not just wait until LSB posted the flip and then decide what to post? It only happened about 1 1/2 hrs after Deconduo made that post. I placed him on my list of suspects for his inactivity and then removed him, but he's yet to come around and start talking. I mean look at his posting history. It's less than stellar and after a re-read I'm nervous that he's actually scum. He wasn't the biggest Chaoser fan as well and banked on the LD/Chaoser explosion, yet did nothing to stop it. He was against people blowing themselves up so why would he just sit back and let them explode like that? I'm done being pushed around. If we have any chance of winning we need to get the scummiest players taken out. You have been harassing my plans and ideas and have done nothing to unify the town, justify any actions, or explain specifically your issues with any suggestions or list of suspects that I have. You either don't want to comment and mess up by tipping off the rest of the town who your scum-buddies are, or you're playing bad. I'm banking on the former. ##vote: Jackal58 | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On February 19 2011 14:45 GMarshal wrote: While I too find Jackal frustrating, I would hold off on lynching him, if he really is town then I can practically guarantee he'll kamikaze tomorrow as he seems convinced you are mafia, instead vote to lynch Coagulation, he hasn't posted any contributions at all, or Original Name who claims he is too busy right now (which could be true, its also an excellent excuse to lurk) I agree with you completely, but this is something I can't ignore. THe last time I did this scum got away and I was killed. It's upsetting to think that someone is going to be able to get away with what seems to be the most obvious scum tells that I've ever seen, and I don't want this to go unnoticed. | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
On February 19 2011 15:10 Amber[LighT] wrote: I agree with you completely, but this is something I can't ignore. THe last time I did this scum got away and I was killed. It's upsetting to think that someone is going to be able to get away with what seems to be the most obvious scum tells that I've ever seen, and I don't want this to go unnoticed. Bullshit that you want to kill someone you don't think is scum. Where is your behavior analysis? Try and look through any game with Jackal as town. | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
##Vote:Amber[Light] On February 19 2011 14:32 Amber[LighT] wrote: He wasn't the biggest Chaoser fan as well and banked on the LD/Chaoser explosion, yet did nothing to stop it. He was against people blowing themselves up so why would he just sit back and let them explode like that? At no point ANYWHERE did I say I was against people blowing themselves up. I haven't even hinted or suggested anything of the like. You get a vote for trying to put words in my mouth. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On February 19 2011 14:45 GMarshal wrote: While I too find Jackal frustrating, I would hold off on lynching him, if he really is town then I can practically guarantee he'll kamikaze tomorrow as he seems convinced you are mafia, instead vote to lynch Coagulation, he hasn't posted any contributions at all, or Original Name who claims he is too busy right now (which could be true, its also an excellent excuse to lurk) I have no intentions of going boom unless I'm a minute away from being lynched. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On February 19 2011 22:49 deconduo wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote:Amber[Light] At no point ANYWHERE did I say I was against people blowing themselves up. I haven't even hinted or suggested anything of the like. You get a vote for trying to put words in my mouth. On February 18 2011 05:59 deconduo wrote: Using the suicide mechanic as a way to prove you are town is the dumbest thing you can do. Instead how about making an actual effort. I pointed out that ONE LINE of yours is scummy and this is your response. On February 18 2011 06:25 deconduo wrote: Yes and no. If someone bombs a town today then: Lynch today -> Tomorrow is lylo No lynch today -> Tomorrow is mylo -> No lynch -> Day 3 is lylo We essentially sacrifice a lynch day one for more information. Whether or not this is a good idea I don't know. Its also somewhat irrelevant unless someone does bomb. On February 18 2011 23:23 deconduo wrote: I'm suspicious of everyone who has made posts threatening/suggesting that they will blow up. It feels like a mafia thing to do to put on a fake bravado. Legit fanatics have no reason to bring attention to their powers. This is what I meant Deconduo. Perhaps you can explain how you were inferring that blowing up was something you actually wanted players to do? Because your posts seem to hint otherwise... Then this came after the fact: On February 19 2011 06:42 deconduo wrote: In 15min I'm expecting an explosion from either Lunar or Chaoser. Also don't forget before you voted no lynch you removed yourself from Chaoser: On February 19 2011 02:06 deconduo wrote: In a rush, might not get to vote in time. Vote: Chaoser Hopefully I'll get back in time to place a more thought out vote, but for now I'm going with instinct. Sorry chaoser. Why did you switch before the flip, and to a no vote? It could have been a fake kill? | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On February 19 2011 23:53 Amber[LighT] wrote: He had no votes on him, blowing up right there to prove he was town after a single FOS would be the dumbest thing he could do. How does this imply that blowing up in general is bad? And? I voiced no opinion on actually blowing up, just stated the possibilities if it did happen Once again, talking about people going 'ahaha I've got a bomb and I wanna use it.' Not giving any opinion on the act of blowing up once again. This is what I meant Deconduo. Perhaps you can explain how you were inferring that blowing up was something you actually wanted players to do? Because your posts seem to hint otherwise... Then this came after the fact: Also don't forget before you voted no lynch you removed yourself from Chaoser: Why did you switch before the flip, and to a no vote? It could have been a fake kill? If you thought that it could possibly be a fake kill you are dumber than I thought. They would BOTH have to be mafia/medic... No, instead you are once again trying to manipulate what I said to cast suspicion on me. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
This is all I wanted Deconduo. I appreciate you at least taking the time out to hammer out my suspicion. I'll gladly drop it. @ Barundar if it's going to be the difference between a no-lynch and lynching Coagulation I will make sure it gets done. Don't we already have a majority at this point, or we're nearing it? It seems like the town would much rather lynch someone than not to have suspects go unchecked, and of course I recognize that Coagulation is playing on the shady side. Like Jackal, he has been bleeding with scum tells from the very start. | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
@ Barundar if it's going to be the difference between a no-lynch and lynching Coagulation I will make sure it gets done. Don't we already have a majority at this point, or we're nearing it? I'm fine with lynching either you or coagulation. Reason I pick coag over you is beceause you atleast post something. If you want to help me bus who I think is your teammate, thats ok  | ||
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