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On February 11 2012 22:57 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 22:46 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Im gonna look at WBG and Kita as they have nt been helpful this game. Yeah I agree, they need to fakeclaim one or two times and cause massive chaos to the thread and further distract the town from lynch discussion. Then I might consider them as helpfull as you. Both wbg and kita are town in my eyes. Actually not entirely sure on wbg, as been mention earlier he's legendary good at disguising himself as town when he is scum but I think he's legit. So yeah, those two are very likely town.
well I guess that makes wbg a " pretty much confirmed townie" and kita a "maybe mafia" for me.
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Toad, I gave You a chance.
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On February 11 2012 22:59 Kurumi wrote:
Toad, I gave You a chance.
why do you want to look like batman?
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@ toad: Still I don't see how he would not just faked the check on you...whatever. I still think the scum explanation is way better.
@tunkeg: I guess I know what you mean. Fair enough. Let's stop talking about it. However, if you look through my filter you'll see that I wasn't bluefishing and tried to keep joker safe...
@ rg: It's scumhunting not bluefishing. We don't stop calling people out because we are afraid that they might end up turning blue, we continue to hunt them if we think they are red.
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On February 11 2012 14:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 14:12 ~OpZ~ wrote:On February 11 2012 11:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 11 2012 11:21 ~OpZ~ wrote:DoctorHelvetica...Please... On February 11 2012 09:06 ~OpZ~ wrote:On February 10 2012 16:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
OpZ all you did was repeat the same case I made twice. So far it seems like that's your only contribution to this thread as it is. why are you so fucking this game you were way better than this in that TF2 mafia Excuse me, Which game is this? Arkham City in which all you've done was roleplay uselessly for a day then parrot everything I said to make a case on a lurker What's the problem exactly? Haven't you called for vig's to shoot me multiple times now too? So ignore my question a second time...so what game was that n where r my repeated vig calls? Yes. I'm uncertain of u but ur claims unchallenged so I have no choice Stop pressing me. N now I'm fairly certain the person I know is confirmed. I'm happy with my town read. I don't remember the number. Was it not the TF2 mafia game where we banded together in irc and you were useful or do I have you confused with someone else? Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 01:18 ~OpZ~ wrote:On February 09 2012 17:53 Toadesstern wrote:btw here's what DocH posted earlier when I claimed Two-Face: On February 08 2012 19:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Ok, good. I'm not sure you should have claimed this early though. You could have drawn mafia bullets into you if you were immortal by claiming a different role or not admitting that you are invincible and now you might get RB'd all game and just be useless. What are you going for, town cred?
I do believe you though, your power seems plausible from what I know. It seems like everybody has a second aspect to their role that is hidden. He KNOWS, that some powers have a second aspect to it, therefore he believes my claim. I still think he just understood what I was doing from the very beginning because I lied as little as possible and got a shitload of breadcrumbs in my fakeclaim to make sure the guy who knows my role is knowing what I'm doing. Apparently that guy is DocH. He knew it because Jackal? He's in the phone booth QT And another post afterwards getting mad because a townie is pressuring for what doc H is claiming, when a DT received a red check? You renigged your claim of two face, so what the hell are you talking about toad. Jesus....I've never been 100% down for LAL but shit, Palmar, Toad, DocH, gtfo this game. On February 09 2012 20:59 Toadesstern wrote:
Thoughts on hiro, sheth, risk.nuke, opz anyone?
I'd like to see all of those 4 dead. You forgot toad and doc H, bro. You were just saying I'm scum, I remembered wrong. Someone else said I should be shot or on a shoot list, maybe it was Palmar? Regardless you've never called me out for spamming before as far as I can remember. this isn't the first game we've played together and it isn't the first time I'm the most prolific poster. I always am. All you did was flip out about all the claims all throughout Day 2 then push a case I made, probably because it was easy and didn't require you to make your own analysis. You haven't really done anything. In the first day you were just distracting with your worthless roleplaying shit. If you want to criticize other players for ruining the thread, look at yourself. You didn't do shit day 1, criticized Chaoser for a "worthless" post despite posting even less substance than he had. Then you say "I knew DocH was scum all along." really? Why didn't you say anything? rG's fake DT check was the perfect opportunity for scum to do this bullshit but they had nowhere to go with it when rG couldn't back himself up and Radfield made the more convincing claim. Chaoser was pretty worthless on Day 1 but you were worse. Roleplaying, being selective, not even pushing the player who according to you "reeked of scum Day 1", why was it that you didn't want to say anything? It's not like I wouldn't respond seeing as I post more often than anyone else, how do you justify criticizing other players for not contributing then contribute zero and not only that you don't even bother to make the case? All you've done for your "scumhunting" is agree/disagree with people or with jaybrundage repeat the exact same shit I said. That's not good enough. I make a lot of mistakes, I mix peoples names up and I post too much, I'm sloppy, but I'm not stupid enough to not make a case on a player I think is scum when there is a contested lynch. You had nothing on me Day 1 to call me scum, which is why you didn't. Getting to say you thought so all along when there is doubt (that is quickly stamped out) about it isn't convincing. You're also coming off like you're disappointed that my roleclaim checks out, disappointed that you can't push me for a bad lynch. You didn't call for vig shots repeatedly. That post of yours I quoted about adding me and toad, I remembered as something like "remember to shoot toad/doch", the part earlier were you talk about killing me could have been about lynches. If I'm confusing you with a different player who I communicated with in that TL Mafia game (TF2 theme, kurumi was host I think) then correct me because my memory is horrible and I might be wrong. Even if I'm wrong about that all these points still stand. So put up or shut up.
Notice the bolded part? When did I say that? I never did. If you popped scum I could say that? So is this you inadvertently claiming scum? -_-
Also, I'm known for following my gut. You bsing on about 3rd party after saying lets not talk about it is what gave me the scum look. I've done accepted you as town with the clay face claim but your still coming at me bro, and I'm seriously tired of it. Yes, Killing you and toad would explain a lot, and I just assumed you were mafia. I go into every game with one major assumption. All vets are mafia. That's the reason I don't like sheeping. The biggest point to focus on is who defended sheth day one. You should of been buggering about that. That makes me look scummy. I voted C_C instead of sheth. I wanted sheth to have a chance because last game I couldn't get him off my back so I'm under the assumption he's pretty good at this game. C_C on the other hand I don't know much about and the argument on him seemed better.
And do remember, according to someone who claimed DT they got a red check on you. Do you understand the significance of that and why I was wanting you to die? The post you quoted. I even mentioning you DTing red. How the hell was I supposed to know it was full of shit? You would if you were town, but just you, and toad apparently.
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Whole advantage from this confusion is that we might actually have more information than scum now.
Kita has been writing things such as these
On February 09 2012 03:32 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 03:19 Radfield wrote:
Joker, you need to fire tonight, as there is a decent chance you are dead by morning.
Why is there a decent chance the joker will die tonight? Seems just as likely as any other vig.
Either he hasnt been figuring out things or he doesnt want the joker to fire.
I dunno, but vig targets do abound and we do have a shitton of vigs anyway.
Also, he has dissapeared d2 and n2. Seems suspicious to me.
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On February 11 2012 23:04 Jayjay54 wrote:
@ toad: Still I don't see how he would not just faked the check on you...whatever. I still think the scum explanation is way better.
@tunkeg: I guess I know what you mean. Fair enough. Let's stop talking about it. However, if you look through my filter you'll see that I wasn't bluefishing and tried to keep joker safe...
@ rg: It's scumhunting not bluefishing. We don't stop calling people out because we are afraid that they might end up turning blue, we continue to hunt them if we think they are red.
idk, yeah the mafia one makes sense because I think they could have checked me n1 to see what's going on but I doubt that they would have told or forced him to fake a dt check. That's even more unlikely imo.
And Kurumi is trying to find out if I really am immortal.
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Opz, have You found Penguin yet?
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On February 11 2012 23:11 rgTheSchworz wrote:Whole advantage from this confusion is that we might actually have more information than scum now. Kita has been writing things such as these Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 03:32 kitaman27 wrote:On February 09 2012 03:19 Radfield wrote:
Joker, you need to fire tonight, as there is a decent chance you are dead by morning.
Why is there a decent chance the joker will die tonight? Seems just as likely as any other vig. Either he hasnt been figuring out things or he doesnt want the joker to fire. I dunno, but vig targets do abound and we do have a shitton of vigs anyway. Also, he has dissapeared d2 and n2. Seems suspicious to me.
I'd say radfield did not think I'm the joker and thought DocH is the joker because he apparently claimed that in that gay-phone-session.
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On February 11 2012 23:12 Kurumi wrote:
Opz, have You found Penguin yet?
Wouldn't you like to know, seing that you are Catwomen.
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On February 11 2012 18:58 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Voting for me is a waste at this point in time JayJay.
Even if you think i m scum because I lied,then you should shoot Palmar because he lied too.
Can t say that I agree with chaoser defending me.
Trusting what you think on first impulse is bad.
On the other hand, how can you explain my actions, in a way that I end up scum?
Reasonably, I should ve been scumcoached by now.would they allow me to endanger their team?
Why are you spelling out Vector?
Anyway....You should post some more about who you think is mafia....I'm bout to leave for work.
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On February 11 2012 23:12 Kurumi wrote:
Opz, have You found Penguin yet?
The way to the Iceberg lounge is blocked at the moment....And I really don't wanna fuck with the big Shark. I'ma go through the sewers if I can, but I dunno how that's gonna work. I here Croc's done there... He scares me....
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These guys..... never Learn their lessons.
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I also Agree with Doc H's case on Kurumi. I gotta look more into this. Might be able to check it at work today...
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Why don't you agree that Chaoser supporting you in a strange way (check out his filter) is painting him red, if you flip scum?
On February 11 2012 18:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Chaoser is the one who went hard trying to prove it's "impossible" for rG to be scum right
Where the fuck do I try to prove that it's impossible for rG to be scum? I think he's scummy as fuck. I voted for him day one, the only reason I got off was cause he claimed blue. Yesterday I posted about how if Sheth flipped miller we need a long hard look at Palmar/Radfield/rG because I think if Sheth flipped miller that there was a good chance all three are scum. Are you guys shitting me....
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Also, it's pretty clear from my perspective that Palmar is batman. He's trolling too hard to be town and he's not mafia given his hard Sheth push Day 1. Look at his play in this game and his play as Gollum in LOTR, especially on the last day just before he was going to get the Ring. Troll heavy in both of them.
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On February 11 2012 23:51 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +Why don't you agree that Chaoser supporting you in a strange way (check out his filter) is painting him red, if you flip scum? Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 18:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Chaoser is the one who went hard trying to prove it's "impossible" for rG to be scum right Where the fuck do I try to prove that it's impossible for rG to be scum? I think he's scummy as fuck. I voted for him day one, the only reason I got off was cause he claimed blue. Yesterday I posted about how if Sheth flipped miller we need a long hard look at Palmar/Radfield/rG because I think if Sheth flipped miller that there was a good chance all three are scum. Are you guys shitting me....
IT was Kurumi who did that, not you. That's why I asked a question instead of making a statement.
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Radfield
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This game is absurdly hard to keep up with right now. You guys need to slow waaay down. Lets stop the bickering and focus on scum, not on roles.
Regardless of what Toad and DocH are(I am inclined to believe their claims), both seem fairly town to me. DocH is playing his town game, and Toad seems sincere. I also like his two-face claim day 1 in an effort to draw 3rd party hits. It fits with his role.
On February 11 2012 22:11 Palmar wrote:
we'll find out how immortal you are tomorrow toad. I think you're scum and faking it.
This is real smart Palmar...... there is no reason to discount Toad and DocH's claim, which means that the only way that Toad can die is if mafia take down Doc H.
I'm also fairly certain that you don't have an unblockable shot. I wouldn't be alive otherwise... In fact, I'm not even so sure you shot me at all. My problem though is that I don't even have a real scum read on you, just a troll read.
In particular your hit claim makes no sense:On February 11 2012 19:42 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 19:42 rgTheSchworz wrote:On February 11 2012 19:35 Palmar wrote:
I got hit last night. Look, are you trying to troll us all this game? If you re not dead tonight I suppose you re somewhere on my lynch list. I'm not trolling I'm not lying. I got hit last night.
Why did you not claim your hit straight off? Why wait?
On February 11 2012 19:40 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 19:37 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I say CW didnt hit last night. I am positively sure of that since I would be dead.
Someone lies.
Already told you dude, catwoman checked sheth last night.
Again, this makes no sense. If I was Batman or Catwoman, I sure as shit would not DT Sheth. One, he was on the chopping block which means he was likely to die that night or get lynched the following day. Two, there were a ton of better targets to either DT or shoot if I was trying to snipe blues or Hugo.
However, if you guys want to stick with the theory of me being the Bat or the Cat, I suppose that's alright. It gives me a certain amount of protection from mafia.
That being said, medics should probably be going between me or DocH tonight. I somehow doubt that mafia buy Palmar's unblockable hit story, especially if mafia were actually the ones that shot me. At the very least, I think the doc that protected me should visit me again and the rest should bounce between us. Thoughts?
On February 11 2012 23:15 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 23:11 rgTheSchworz wrote:Whole advantage from this confusion is that we might actually have more information than scum now. Kita has been writing things such as these On February 09 2012 03:32 kitaman27 wrote:On February 09 2012 03:19 Radfield wrote:
Joker, you need to fire tonight, as there is a decent chance you are dead by morning.
Why is there a decent chance the joker will die tonight? Seems just as likely as any other vig. Either he hasnt been figuring out things or he doesnt want the joker to fire. I dunno, but vig targets do abound and we do have a shitton of vigs anyway. Also, he has dissapeared d2 and n2. Seems suspicious to me. I'd say radfield did not think I'm the joker and thought DocH is the joker because he apparently claimed that in that gay-phone-session.
I actually thought Chaoser was the Joker for a bit. I didn't consider DocH faking the post. Due to that I was letting Chaoser slide more than I should have.
On February 11 2012 22:39 Toadesstern wrote:
my list still stands:
Chaoser
Sheth <--- dead
forumite
risk.nuke
opz
layabout
hiro
Lynch these people unless you got a good damn reason not to.
I like this list, though I would add Evantrees and maybe Kurumi(who has started trolling now?), and drop layabout. Layabout doesn't seem like scum to me this game.
Once again I'm gone this evening, and should be back just before the Daypost. If you really want to be productive, I highly suggest to stop posting and instead going back and rereading the second half of day 1 with the knowledge that Sheth is scum. That was a Day 1 swing towns dream about, but I just don't have the time right now to go back and read it(I haven't even read the phone QT for days). I will get to it eventually, but in the meantime it is the single most important part of this thread.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On February 12 2012 00:19 chaoser wrote:
Also, it's pretty clear from my perspective that Palmar is batman. He's trolling too hard to be town and he's not mafia given his hard Sheth push Day 1. Look at his play in this game and his play as Gollum in LOTR, especially on the last day just before he was going to get the Ring. Troll heavy in both of them.
Palmar is not Batman, because then I would be dead. Conversely he lied about hitting me, but that doesn't really make sense from a Batman perspective. You're also assuming that Palmar is a straightforward player who follows his meta, which is patently untrue.
Who do you think is scum Chaoser? Who is at the top of your list? I'll admit I've been skim reading, but by this point I feel like I should know who you think is scum and who you think is town, yet I don't have a good picture of your thoughts. Enlighten me.
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On February 12 2012 01:21 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 00:19 chaoser wrote:
Also, it's pretty clear from my perspective that Palmar is batman. He's trolling too hard to be town and he's not mafia given his hard Sheth push Day 1. Look at his play in this game and his play as Gollum in LOTR, especially on the last day just before he was going to get the Ring. Troll heavy in both of them. Palmar is not Batman, because then I would be dead. Conversely he lied about hitting me, but that doesn't really make sense from a Batman perspective. You're also assuming that Palmar is a straightforward player who follows his meta, which is patently untrue. Who do you think is scum Chaoser? Who is at the top of your list? I'll admit I've been skim reading, but by this point I feel like I should know who you think is scum and who you think is town, yet I don't have a good picture of your thoughts. Enlighten me.
Why couldn´t Palmar be Batman and rolecheck you last night? His rolecheck found a DT, which is usefull for a scapegoat, because you did check someone the night before. It´s not like Palmar hasn´t lied about everything else he´s done.
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