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Power Rank 09/18/2011 - Page 11

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Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
November 08 2011 18:55 GMT
#201
There's no point to a pre-season rank when no games have been played. And by what metric is Stork top 10 hottest on the planet when he hasn't played since July and was getting stomped left and right by almost all of his competent opponents for the several months straight?

This is basically just "these are the players I like most."
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
November 13 2011 00:57 GMT
#202
We're so close.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Seri
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
England86 Posts
November 15 2011 13:16 GMT
#203
Not close enough
Never Forget KT Zergs Hoejja <3 Action <3 Crazy-Hydra <3
kamizushi
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada52 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 01:29:11
November 20 2011 01:27 GMT
#204
Excuse me but I just came out from a hole where I was hiding since the last season and I have no idea when the next OSL is gonna start. Would anybody be so kind as to enlighten me?
Hey
DenSkumle
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway108 Posts
November 25 2011 21:36 GMT
#205
Please, some games soon! Do they ever play any games?
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
November 27 2011 01:08 GMT
#206
On November 26 2011 06:36 DenSkumle wrote:
Please, some games soon! Do they ever play any games?


Funny that you say that now... look in BW section...
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
November 27 2011 03:20 GMT
#207
Mortality still lurking the PR section.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3616 Posts
November 28 2011 04:46 GMT
#208
I assume since PL is back we'll get a Power Rank this month, at least for formality's sake? I realize you'll only have one week of games to go one, but that's better than nothing...
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
November 28 2011 17:46 GMT
#209
I have projects and finals coming up in the next two weeks, so I'd prefer to wait till January. If there's time, I'll try to squeeze something in but I'm not really a fan of writing off only one week's data.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
November 28 2011 18:49 GMT
#210
That's the logical solution. Most players will have only played 1-2 games and all you'd really be able to do is slightly shuffle the current top 7-8 and introduce a couple other players at the bottom.
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
November 29 2011 05:14 GMT
#211
Sigh I miss seeing my PR rank.....
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Cigar
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden12 Posts
December 08 2011 01:49 GMT
#212
like 1 PR per 6 months
Smoking cheezers
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
December 08 2011 21:06 GMT
#213
On December 08 2011 10:49 Cigar wrote:
like 1 PR per 6 months


Like 1 tournament per 6 months.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Keone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States812 Posts
December 15 2011 02:15 GMT
#214
On December 09 2011 06:06 Mortality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 10:49 Cigar wrote:
like 1 PR per 6 months


Like 1 tournament per 6 months.

Even so, I wish we could have the old rate of PR back. Even in dead months we sometimes had PRs, and those were always still great to read. Everyone understands that we have to take them with a grain of salt.
BW Forever. Flash is the Ultimate Bonjwa.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
December 15 2011 16:39 GMT
#215
You want them in completely dead months? When absolutely nothing has changed?
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 18 2011 11:54 GMT
#216
There seems to be a complete lack of PR speculation for this month, maybe put the thread in BW general somehow?

My thoughts:

Flash is the best right now. Again. It's been long enough since Jangbi's OSL win that that doesn't give him first automatically, and Flash, unlike Jangbi, has been destroying everyone in his path, especially Horang2 today.

Hydra, Soulkey, Jangbi, Fantasy, and Stats all have variously strong cases for 2nd. Out of these, Soulkey is playing the best, followed by Stats. Jangbi was first last PR and hasn't been bad enough to fall out of the top 5. Fantasy and Hydra are incredibly streaky and it's too early to tell what kind of streak they'll be on. Jangbi and Soulkey would likely get 2nd/3rd in some order, and the rest in the 4th-9th range.

None of Stork, Bisu, and Jaedong really are playing like top 3 right now, but they should all definitely be on the PR. Stork had a very poor end to last season that he seems to be recovering well from, Bisu seems to have slipped from his PL monster status of 10-11, and Jaedong has been great except for that bizarre opening day game against Best.

Baby has been under the radar a bit but deserves a PR spot for his newfound consistency.

Biggest disappointment so far has been ZerO. He was so good towards the end of last season (in PL, not the finals against Flash) but hasn't really done anything this season. Today's game against Jaehoon was ok, the rest not so much.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
December 18 2011 21:16 GMT
#217
On December 18 2011 20:54 jalstar wrote:
There seems to be a complete lack of PR speculation for this month, maybe put the thread in BW general somehow?

My thoughts:

Flash is the best right now. Again. It's been long enough since Jangbi's OSL win that that doesn't give him first automatically, and Flash, unlike Jangbi, has been destroying everyone in his path, especially Horang2 today.

Hydra, Soulkey, Jangbi, Fantasy, and Stats all have variously strong cases for 2nd. Out of these, Soulkey is playing the best, followed by Stats. Jangbi was first last PR and hasn't been bad enough to fall out of the top 5. Fantasy and Hydra are incredibly streaky and it's too early to tell what kind of streak they'll be on. Jangbi and Soulkey would likely get 2nd/3rd in some order, and the rest in the 4th-9th range.

None of Stork, Bisu, and Jaedong really are playing like top 3 right now, but they should all definitely be on the PR. Stork had a very poor end to last season that he seems to be recovering well from, Bisu seems to have slipped from his PL monster status of 10-11, and Jaedong has been great except for that bizarre opening day game against Best.

Baby has been under the radar a bit but deserves a PR spot for his newfound consistency.

Biggest disappointment so far has been ZerO. He was so good towards the end of last season (in PL, not the finals against Flash) but hasn't really done anything this season. Today's game against Jaehoon was ok, the rest not so much.


There is a thread in BW general. Nobody is going there either.

I'm a bit hesitant to push SK all the way up to 2nd. If Fanta and Hydra are not going to be considered due to "streakiness" then it has to be pointed out that SK just doesn't have the kind of achievements attached to his name that either of them do.

There's still some more time so we should see what happens. I think that everybody has at least 2 more games before the next ranking, and that can mean a whole lot of difference, especially given that with such a looooooooooooong off season we are not only working from somewhat small samples, but don't have the benefit of being able to interpolate based on how a player has been progressing when you expand your view to 2 months or to 3 months.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3616 Posts
December 19 2011 18:43 GMT
#218
I've been away from the PR for too long. Candidates so far for ranking, judging by record:

Stork, Soulkey, BaBy, Flash (all 3-0 or 4-0); maybe fantasy (2-0) & established player.
Jaedong, EffOrt, Hydra, Jangbi Stats, BeSt, and sHy! (!) are all sitting at 3-1 as well.

Then we have a bunch (Bisu, ZerO, Light, free, Jaehoon, Bogus, Shuttle) of good-to-great players who have so far only gotten mediocre to bad records.

Right now my inclination is to leave Jangbi #1 and Flash #2, but after that:

Stork, Soulkey, BaBy; then Jaedong, Hydra, EffOrt, Bisu, Stats in some order. But it's a really tentative thing yet.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
December 19 2011 19:27 GMT
#219
Don't see why Jangbi should be ahead of Flash. I think the only thing "diminishing" Flash's aura right now is that KT is not looking very dangerous and there are no individual leagues. Unless either Flash loses or barely scrapes through some horribly scrappy games, I don't see anyone else claiming #1 over him.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3616 Posts
December 19 2011 20:00 GMT
#220
On December 20 2011 04:27 Mortality wrote:
Don't see why Jangbi should be ahead of Flash. I think the only thing "diminishing" Flash's aura right now is that KT is not looking very dangerous and there are no individual leagues. Unless either Flash loses or barely scrapes through some horribly scrappy games, I don't see anyone else claiming #1 over him.


Most of the reason is that Jangbi's got a residual #1 ranking from the last PR which I don't think a loss to EffOrt entirely erases, especially when Flash has played nobody: his best vs. T opponent was Jaehoon: a quality win, but great's not that impressive and Horang2 is surprisingly weak vs. Terran. Admittedly Jangbi's opponents aren't great either (except for EffOrt who beat him), but unless we're going to blow the whole thing up and start over entirely I think there's nothing conclusive putting Flash back over Jangbi when Jangbi beat Flash (among other things) to take #1.

Not that Flash #1 would be a completely illogical choice, but you seem to be defaulting to that position and I'm not sure we've seen enough to prove that's legitimate right now.

If we were going to just ignore everything from before and go on this season, I think I'd make it look something like:

1. Stork
2. Flash
3. Soulkey
4. BaBy
5/6/7. EffOrt/Hydra/Jangbi
8/9/10. ... no idea. Pick from Jaedong, Stats, Bisu (I guess), fantasy, BeSt, ...maybe Piano?
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
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