EPTYour Name: TADanny.205
Hacker Name: Profiler
Replay: http://drop.sc/14355
Description: Many looks at my base through fog of war and constant looks at my UNSCOUTED expansion
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TADanny
Australia3 Posts
Your Name: TADanny.205 Hacker Name: Profiler Replay: http://drop.sc/14355 Description: Many looks at my base through fog of war and constant looks at my UNSCOUTED expansion | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On June 10 2011 20:26 Danny9654 wrote: Server: SEA Your Name: TADanny.205 Hacker Name: Profiler Replay: http://drop.sc/14355 Description: Many looks at my base through fog of war and constant looks at my UNSCOUTED expansion At first I was unconvinced. He's obviously a bronze/silver player and bad players do all kinds of weird stuff. But starting at 6:20 (aprox) he starts building an ebay right after you start producing a banshee. Weird, he can't remember to build scvs but he knows the timing on a banshee rush. Then it gets out of hand. Proof + Show Spoiler + 6:05 First Look (Could be checking buildings but he does drop an ebay right after staring where an unscouted starport/techlab is) 7:00 Looks again (FOW) 9:10 More staring at the main (FOW) 10:30 Moves forces to blind intercept another banshee (Weak, possible that he would do that by chance) 11:30 The fun starts. From here out all the times I list he's looking at a natural that he never scouted. Coincidentally TADanny's forces are right there too. 14:50 more natural peeks (FOW) 15:30 more natural peeks (FOW) 17:30 more natural peeks (FOW) 18:22 more natural peeks (FOW) 18:43 looking at the third expansion (FOW) 19:50 He moves his army around the center serendipidously avoiding your tank line despite only having a moment of vision of it killing his marauder on the minimap. (He never looks when his mara is slaughtered). No scan, just gosu army movement from the accused, who only built 17 scvs in 20 minutes. I'm completely convinced. Profiler is a maphacker. Why the hell would you maphack on a custom map, I'll never know. + Show Spoiler + (PS TADanny Don't leave games! You had won it  | ||
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danielbe
Colombia24 Posts
Your Name: danielbe Hacker Name: nycjmz Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/HhQFms Description: proxys the correct location without ever scouting. The map is taldarim altar, and he doesn't hesitate for a second where to send his probe. Doesn't look at any other base, doesn't do anything but sit right next to my base and make 2 proxy gateways. I know that's considered "weak evidence", but... http://www.2shared.com/file/C1fwxkIL/Backwater_Gulch_-_nycjmz_HACKE.html on this replay he does it again, to another player. Sends a probe and cannons the zerg's natural, without ever scouting and repeatedly looks at zerg's base in the early game. I think that's evidence enough. | ||
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JeBi
United States44 Posts
Your Name: JeBi.851 Hacker Name: nycjmz Replay: http://drop.sc/14409 Description: Backwater Gulch (4player) - Cannon rushes behind my natural expo mineral line without ever scouting my main base to see if I'm even there. STARES into my main and expos all game long, very blatantly. At 16:40 he checks into the fog war the SECOND I move out with a doom drop and responds by moving his whole army back up into my main and warping in before he ever truly "sees" my drop. He checks my bases / army through the fog of war at least 25 times throughout the game, and STARES. Replay2: http://drop.sc/14408 Description: Shattered Temple (4player) - Stares at my main through fog of war 4 times in first 2 minutes of game, before ever scouting. Opens forge, hides probe at gold. After banking minerals just walks up to my ramp and 3 pylon blocks it + cannons. He has never even "officially" scouted me, but he decides to spend 450 crystals queuing up a ramp block?? I don't think so buddy. Other Notes: He is also extremely BM. He paused the Shattered Temple game for over 6 minutes and then resumed without saying a word. After I beat him 2 games in a row he msg'd me just to BM me over and over bragging about his record LOL. I thought it odd that he had some insane record, like 108w:32l in Masters, because he was clearly horrible. That's the main reason i watched the replays, plus in the Backwater Gulch game he responded toooo well to my drop. Replay 3: (not me playing, previously linked in above post): http://replayfu.com/r/HhQFms Description: 2 gate proxy, on Tal Darim without ever scouting the base he proxy's at. He seems to 2 gate proxy at 9 food in almost every PvP (without ever checking to see if he's found correct spawning location), especially on 4player maps. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
Lots of fog of war peeks, luck that doesn't fail, proxy without scout and intuition against drops well past psychic levels. Its 3:30am, the GSL is on and I'm very tired. I'll do a write up later but i'm saying 99.2% certain he's maphacking. Write up enclosed + Show Spoiler + Wow. I only rewatched two of the replays and just had to stop after the pylon walloff on Shattered. It is painfully obvious he's using map hacks. Backwater Gulch: 3:20 Places cannons in zergs natural without scouting then looks directly into zergs main through the fog 4:40 FOW Peek 5:00 FOW Peek 6:00 FOW Peek 6:30 Puts down cannons at zergs third without scouting the expo there. There are plenty more examples this game of FOW peeks. Shattered Temple FOURTEEN SECONDS INTO THE GAME he looks directly at zergs base through the fog. ... He looks back at 1:30, 1:40 and then pylon blocks the ramp. Both games have much more fog of war peeking and psychic cannon placement. The Tal'darim game he proxys gates with amazing luck and while that kind of thing is just hard to say with concrete certainty (since oh hell he might just be insane and do that every game), the combination of all three replays erases any shelter for reasonable doubt. Watch these on x8. No way to miss the map hacking. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On June 12 2011 14:22 Probe1 wrote: While it is hilarious, it belongs in the awesome/confusing BM thread Sorry, never even seen that one. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
Your Name: (wasn't me in the game, but he sent me the replay) raWr Hacker Name: wsuppp Replay: http://topreplays.com/Replays/Details/7293/Wsuppp_XPIRTDESIGN_vs_raWr_KINtoYou Description: @25seconds, he looks at the enemy base. (its a 8player map in 2v2) once is sus @1.30 he once again looks at enemy base again. twice is suspicious @2.02 he once again looks at enemy base (this time the other guy) three times i guilty. All this looking at enemy base is BEFORE they scout their location. given that it can be any 1 of 3, and he looks at the right base 3 times, and NEVER at any of the other 2 possible spawns, is very suspicious. The overlord scout gets to his base just after the 3rd time, so by then he knows where they are, but the 3 incidents i listed above occured before the overlord reached his base. The next case is a very close call, but only an AI could react so fast. @4.24 (the end of the second, very close to 25) a reaper comes into view, during the 25th second, probes are selected, then on the 26th second are sent to kill it. Even if youre watching the mini map, and have the reflex's of Flash or something like that (ive seen some sick BW videos on youtube of reactions) this guy is just a sc2 ladder player. Also, he has his screen positioned so the middle of the screen is where the probes and reaper are, and is easy to pull them over to defend, after looking at their base constantly, he must know its a reaper when he sees the dot on the mini map. And if you watch for yourself, its simply impossible to react that quickly (watch at slowest possible speed, and maybe rewatch, took me a few goes to be sure.) @5.36. He looks at two random spots on the mini map, if you change view to everyone, youll see that these are the 2 clumps of units of the enemy, and he looks at both of them, and no other random spots on the map throughout the game. @6.06 As the enemy troops move to his natural, he once again looks at their exact location. Thats all, as it is only a 7.12 minute (in game) game. But i think its pretty conclusive that he hacks. Make sure to watch it from his point of view camera thingy! If you need any more info, post here and ill check this space every now and then | ||
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bebe01
Korea (South)512 Posts
On May 30 2011 07:33 LicH. wrote: !confirm on vGOdien Played him - scouted me close air positions first, 4 gates me and fails, then IMMEDIATELY after this, he beelines it to my hidden expo with no prior vision of it. I call him out on it, he angrily starts saying how he is streaming with 2,000 viewers, and how I am a no life. Shame I didn't save the rep. I'm sure other ppl have experiences like this with vGOdien. i've played him before.. seemed really fishy, and I notice he is rank 1 masters in the world -_- more cheaters inc in GM? | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On June 15 2011 06:12 L3g3nd_ wrote: Server: North America Your Name: (wasn't me in the game, but he sent me the replay) raWr Hacker Name: wsuppp Replay: http://topreplays.com/Replays/Details/7293/Wsuppp_XPIRTDESIGN_vs_raWr_KINtoYou Description:+ Show Spoiler [Da mihi factum, dabo tibi ius] + @25seconds, he looks at the enemy base. (its a 8player map in 2v2) once is sus @1.30 he once again looks at enemy base again. twice is suspicious @2.02 he once again looks at enemy base (this time the other guy) three times i guilty. All this looking at enemy base is BEFORE they scout their location. given that it can be any 1 of 3, and he looks at the right base 3 times, and NEVER at any of the other 2 possible spawns, is very suspicious. The overlord scout gets to his base just after the 3rd time, so by then he knows where they are, but the 3 incidents i listed above occured before the overlord reached his base. The next case is a very close call, but only an AI could react so fast. @4.24 (the end of the second, very close to 25) a reaper comes into view, during the 25th second, probes are selected, then on the 26th second are sent to kill it. Even if youre watching the mini map, and have the reflex's of Flash or something like that (ive seen some sick BW videos on youtube of reactions) this guy is just a sc2 ladder player. Also, he has his screen positioned so the middle of the screen is where the probes and reaper are, and is easy to pull them over to defend, after looking at their base constantly, he must know its a reaper when he sees the dot on the mini map. And if you watch for yourself, its simply impossible to react that quickly (watch at slowest possible speed, and maybe rewatch, took me a few goes to be sure.) @5.36. He looks at two random spots on the mini map, if you change view to everyone, youll see that these are the 2 clumps of units of the enemy, and he looks at both of them, and no other random spots on the map throughout the game. @6.06 As the enemy troops move to his natural, he once again looks at their exact location. Thats all, as it is only a 7.12 minute (in game) game. But i think its pretty conclusive that he hacks. Make sure to watch it from his point of view camera thingy! If you need any more info, post here and ill check this space every now and then The information L3g3nd_ posted is accuate. wsuppp is by my opinion, maphacking. Thank you for such a thorough writeup L3g3nd_. It was accurate and I would have written a post covering all the same points. In my opinion, wsuppp was hacking. | ||
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oDieN[Siege]
United States2905 Posts
On June 15 2011 07:36 lGy wrote: i've played him before.. seemed really fishy, and I notice he is rank 1 masters in the world -_- more cheaters inc in GM? This has already been settled with TL AntiHack. As for the "seemed really fishy" comment, please post a replay. I actually really encourage you to or LicH. to, otherwise please knock it off with the accusations. It's not fair towards me that you two just go out and say such things and have no proof. I do appreciate the concern though. <3 | ||
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aepal
Netherlands123 Posts
Your Name: Turk Hacker Name: E-.-Shakra (i don't know what you call that symbol, just watch replay and you know what i mean) Replay: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4361753/Hacker Replay.zip Description: Watches through fog at the start where i am. Continues to watch a couple of times very sneaky if you notice, he tries to hide it, sliding it a bit more to the left while he ''scouts'' with a viking. Calls my banshee rush as soon as i started building it ( without scouting ) and he started a engi bay while looking through fog earlier. Nothing more to add really, just watch the replay and without a doubt you'll notice he maphacks. + Show Spoiler + Something extra ![[image loading]](http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4361753/His%20trashtalk.jpg) (please note i didn't even mention anything to him about cheating : ) so sad.) At the start he watches through the fog in my base, dodgy ? Maybe, coincidence. Possible. Okey i give you that. at 07:53 when he starts to scout with his viking, (after he calls my banshee) he shiftclicks a couple of times over my base, coincidence right? allot of people do it sure, 1 time, 2 time's he looks trough the fog ''while shiftclicking his viking''. After that he scouts it, so it's not obvious. This i again say, okey it can happen, people can play like this, maybe he is not cheating. It's all dodgy but he doesn't have to hack. at 10:08 he pushes my cliff, he goes a bit to the left with the camera, looks at all my units. Why is he doing this? He is paying attention to nothing? He doesn't scout anything, he doesn't know if i come around from the front nothing, he just perfectly does everything while looking trough the fog. Sure hes not hacking, it's just a coincidence. The movements he makes with his camera are not giving away anything. After the initial push he shiftclicks perfectly around my defences at the edge to push my natural, without any scouting again, he only sees my initial 3 tank siege to let him pull back. All this coincidentally camera movements don't give away he tries to cheat and hide it? I mean 1 thing is fine but it is not just once. You can see it obviously that he tries to hide it. Just a little nodge to the left to see my other units in the fog, while he watched trough the fog. These kinds of moves just get to me, i got 10 years of experience in watching hackers and i have no doubt he does it. Draw your own conclusions though, i am just trying to clean up battlenet from game ruiner's. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
Server: EU Your Name: Turk Hacker Name: E-.-Shakra (i don't know what you call that symbol, just watch replay and you know what i mean) In the first twenty seconds he does look directly at your base. Whether its a mouse speed adjustment, accident or he's actually hacking I do not know. But I do know that the rest of the game can be attributed to scouting. He didn't react to any army movement or stare through the FOW in a conclusive way. Bunkers in the front are a huge tell that you're going banshee. He also scouts around with his viking quite a bit. Maybe he was giving anyone that watched the replay a good show but on the surface it looks like he's legitimately scouting. I don't see anything here beyond the initial suspicious camera movement. If you read this thread, please have a look at this replay and post what you think. I could have missed something. | ||
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
IMO need another replay for conclusive evidence he is a hacker. | ||
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aepal
Netherlands123 Posts
You see it clearly he watches more in the fog then actually watching what the viking is scouting. He is watching my base trough fog a couple of times trough the game, not just at the start. I will analyze it further and include timestamps. | ||
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aepal
Netherlands123 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
I'll address your thoughts once you've written your further points but what he did is exactly what I'd expect from a Master level player. I'll wait until you've finished putting up exact times before I say anything further. | ||
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aepal
Netherlands123 Posts
On June 16 2011 23:02 Probe1 wrote: Please do include those time stamps because I saw what I would expect him to be looking at. I'll address your thoughts once you've written your further points but what he did is exactly what I'd expect from a Master level player. I'll wait until you've finished putting up exact times before I say anything further. I included them in the original post. | ||
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