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On May 02 2012 06:32 plogamer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 06:29 Sergio1992 wrote: if Destiny would have said : YOU ARE A FUCKING PIECE OF WHITE TRASH, no one would have actually cared. Just because he said faggot, now he should be demonized. Ah, the ipocrisy. Yeah, what a hypocrisy that white folks, who have not been marginalized for their race - don't give a fuck about racial remarks against them.
You've obviously never been a white person who said something racist.
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e-Sports will not have any credibilty if this sort of thing is deemed acceptable. How many other sports around the world let people use racial slurs when they lose?
A soccer player here in the UK is about to be put on trial for racially abusing an opponent.
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Personally, I don't Care how destiny talks/acts on his stream, if you don't like it don't watch, its really simple.
If Im Quantic I may not like it, but then again, is it getting more views? maybe creating drama and being abrasive brings more attention to destiny, and therefore Quantic, and when he does something like this, they can apoligize, look like the good guy and continue on. ( Sorta like how EG lets idra do what he pleases, he brings in the fans/haters, viewers and sponser $)
What I find interesting about this is, Most of the discussion is about the use of the racial term "gook". When the word "Faggot" may be seen as just as abrasive and hateful as gook. Just an interesting trend I picked up on.
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On May 02 2012 06:36 TarquinJohnson wrote: e-Sports will not have any credibilty if this sort of thing is deemed acceptable. How many other sports around the world let people use racial slurs when they lose?
A soccer player here in the UK is about to be put on trial for racially abusing an opponent.
destiny is not e-sports.
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On May 02 2012 06:35 Shiori wrote: Anyway, I think it's best we let this thread die. No hard feelings against any of you personally, of course, but I don't really think this is going anywhere, and people are getting too emotional for this to be productive. "I concede" would have sufficed.
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Its quite simple really if you don't want to be offended don't watch. Don't try to hurt people, don't try to make people adhere to your way of thinking. If he wants to be racist let him, who made you the bringer of justice to the internet. Its your job, nay! your responsibility to keep other people from being subjected to such hash moral obscenities. You sir are the bringer of despair to any who would differ from your way of thinking. You sir, are an ass.
I completely and utterly support the fact that destiny should be able to say whatever the hell he wants.
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Poll: is protoss op?yes (50) 79% (13) 21% 63 total votes Your vote: is protoss op? (Vote): yes (Vote):
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On May 02 2012 03:40 Denzil wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 03:37 Mr Showtime wrote: Destiny gets far more leeway than anyone else in the community. When he was exclusively streaming and his team affiliation was ROOT (honestly more of a clan), there isn't an issue. It's his personal stream and he can do what he pleases. Now he's a member of a team attached to sponsorships there are going to be issues.
If you are offended by Destiny, don't support him. There's no point in trying to make a civilian arrest on the guy. As a community, our job is to bring these issues to light, not to fix them. Quantic will fix them if deemed necessary just like EG did with Orb.
Again, to be explicitly clear, do not support him if you find him offensive. There isn't really a case that the community is enabling this behavior because when it becomes too much, sponsors and team will react. No EG didn't find it nessercary to fix it Reddit and every self rightous person forced their hand by emailing sponsors and so on and flooding them with complaints forcing EGs hand in 1 direction
I mean..... no. You're just wrong here. The flood of emails to EG's sponsors could have potentially cost them a major sponsorship when the issue was hardly their fault. Orb had barely spent any time working with them before this went down. I don't know how you could look at that and say it's a good thing.
Their hand wasn't "forced" by reddit and others. That decision was to be made regardless. The additional complaints and emails for an issue such as this do FAR more harm than good.
Again, it's not the community's job to fix these issues. Only to present them and let authority make changes if deemed necessary. So for this particular situation, threads like this are helpful and contacting Quantic is helpful. Complaining to the sponsors is NOT helpful. You're hurting everyone and not solving the issue.
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On May 02 2012 06:37 Crue wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 06:36 TarquinJohnson wrote: e-Sports will not have any credibilty if this sort of thing is deemed acceptable. How many other sports around the world let people use racial slurs when they lose?
A soccer player here in the UK is about to be put on trial for racially abusing an opponent. destiny is not e-sports.
True, but Quantic does want a foot in the door, and the PC deathball will roll over anything which it finds distasteful. Since Destiny is irrelevent, getting rid of him wouldn't be that impactful, right?
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On May 02 2012 06:38 Silvertine wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 06:35 Shiori wrote: Anyway, I think it's best we let this thread die. No hard feelings against any of you personally, of course, but I don't really think this is going anywhere, and people are getting too emotional for this to be productive. "I concede" would have sufficed. It would also have been false, so...
Whatever, your responses have always been ego-driven.
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On May 02 2012 06:37 SMD wrote: Personally, I don't Care how destiny talks/acts on his stream, if you don't like it don't watch, its really simple.
If Im Quantic I may not like it, but then again, is it getting more views? maybe creating drama and being abrasive brings more attention to destiny, and therefore Quantic, and when he does something like this, they can apoligize, look like the good guy and continue on. ( Sorta like how EG lets idra do what he pleases, he brings in the fans/haters, viewers and sponser $)
What I find interesting about this is, Most of the discussion is about the use of the racial term "gook". When the word "Faggot" may be seen as just as abrasive and hateful as gook. Just an interesting trend I picked up on.
what if i was watching the other guys stream? what if that guy was streaming one some korean sites, for korean audieance?
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On May 02 2012 06:35 Shiori wrote: Anyway, I think it's best we let this thread die. No hard feelings against any of you personally, of course, but I don't really think this is going anywhere, and people are getting too emotional for this to be productive.
yeah, make your pretentious posts about how everyone else in the thread is an idiot / witless, and then ask for the thread to go away. i'm sure you're a really cool / respectable guy IRL..
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I did get emotional that he used gook because i am reading a book now that related in some way to the war. He never used that before. Why destiny WHYYY
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i really dont understand how this thread has over 100 pages in under 8 hours... (more than any live thread ive seen at this rate) If you watch destinys stream tho he always gets angry when he loses (but not as much as idra!!)
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On May 02 2012 06:39 smash1 wrote:Poll: is protoss op?yes (50) 79% (13) 21% 63 total votes Your vote: is protoss op? (Vote): yes (Vote):
I loled so hard thanks :D
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On May 01 2012 22:22 decaf wrote: If it had been asians picking your cotton y'all would act immensely offended. He says "nigger" or as people, who don't like slurring out others, call it the N word, plenty. Its not based around the idea of him using this as a singular example but as a prolonged "thing." Literally this is assumed his thing. There are many players who BM, but he, Lalush, and once Idra (though he has calmed down now i believe) were the most insane zerg bm-ers seemingly. Its not ok for the professionalism of e-sports, but at least we aren't other e-sports where this is an accepted thing, like i believe a professional tribes team was named after women's genitalia.
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On May 02 2012 06:39 xOny wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 06:35 Shiori wrote: Anyway, I think it's best we let this thread die. No hard feelings against any of you personally, of course, but I don't really think this is going anywhere, and people are getting too emotional for this to be productive. yeah, make your pretentious posts about how everyone else in the thread is an idiot / witless, and then ask for the thread to go away. i'm sure you're a really cool / respectable guy IRL.. I am, thank you. FWIW, I don't think anyone else is particularly stupid, just wrong. You should learn to separate discourse from your identity.
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On May 02 2012 06:39 Mr Showtime wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 03:40 Denzil wrote:On May 02 2012 03:37 Mr Showtime wrote: Destiny gets far more leeway than anyone else in the community. When he was exclusively streaming and his team affiliation was ROOT (honestly more of a clan), there isn't an issue. It's his personal stream and he can do what he pleases. Now he's a member of a team attached to sponsorships there are going to be issues.
If you are offended by Destiny, don't support him. There's no point in trying to make a civilian arrest on the guy. As a community, our job is to bring these issues to light, not to fix them. Quantic will fix them if deemed necessary just like EG did with Orb.
Again, to be explicitly clear, do not support him if you find him offensive. There isn't really a case that the community is enabling this behavior because when it becomes too much, sponsors and team will react. No EG didn't find it nessercary to fix it Reddit and every self rightous person forced their hand by emailing sponsors and so on and flooding them with complaints forcing EGs hand in 1 direction I mean..... no. You're just wrong here. The flood of emails to EG's sponsors could have potentially cost them a major sponsorship when the issue was hardly their fault. Orb had barely spent any time working with them before this went down. I don't know how you could look at that and say it's a good thing. Their hand wasn't "forced" by reddit and others. That decision was to be made regardless. The additional complaints and emails for an issue such as this do FAR more harm than good. Again, it's not the community's job to fix these issues. Only to present them and let authority make changes if deemed necessary. So for this particular situation, threads like this are helpful and contacting Quantic is helpful. Complaining to the sponsors is NOT helpful. You're hurting everyone and not solving the issue.
I do agree that we shouldn't be running to the sponsors yet, but past history suggests that Quantic doesn't care what destiny does. So if a few days go by and nothing has happened, going to the sponsors will be a very valid reaction.
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On May 02 2012 06:39 freetgy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 06:37 SMD wrote: Personally, I don't Care how destiny talks/acts on his stream, if you don't like it don't watch, its really simple.
If Im Quantic I may not like it, but then again, is it getting more views? maybe creating drama and being abrasive brings more attention to destiny, and therefore Quantic, and when he does something like this, they can apoligize, look like the good guy and continue on. ( Sorta like how EG lets idra do what he pleases, he brings in the fans/haters, viewers and sponser $)
What I find interesting about this is, Most of the discussion is about the use of the racial term "gook". When the word "Faggot" may be seen as just as abrasive and hateful as gook. Just an interesting trend I picked up on.
what if i was watching the other guys stream? what if that guys was streaming one some korean sites, for korean audieance?
Mature chat filter is in the game for a reason.
On May 02 2012 06:40 Sylverin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 06:39 smash1 wrote:Poll: is protoss op?yes (50) 79% (13) 21% 63 total votes Your vote: is protoss op? (Vote): yes (Vote):
I loled so hard thanks :D
Why is this even here o.O ?
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