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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 27 2011 12:49 GMT
#2061
On September 27 2011 13:25 GreYMisT wrote:
What is your opinon on Heist Kitaman?


I'll take a look during my lunch break.

On September 27 2011 21:38 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Kita - how bout this. If we don't find any scum before the end of the day, we can look at chaoser. You have wasted a lot of time pushing hard for someone who is pretty convincingly 3rd party, but would t you rather lynch scum if we can?


Yep, the only thing I'm thinking is that if we have a mislynch today, then we might never be in the position to lynch him again. He is a 100% shot, where others may only be 50/50. But yes, if we manage to nail a scum within the next 10 hours, then that would be ideal. At this point, I think draz is the most likely candidate, but he seems to have gone MIA.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 12:51 GMT
#2062
and still he refuses to tell us who he tracket.
Computer says mafia
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 27 2011 12:59 GMT
#2063
Stop fishing. I know who didn't make a kill last night. As soon as I reveal who it is, mafia knows who to shoot at night. If they are in trouble with a lynch, I'll claim to save them. I might consider claiming tonight before the day post in case I get shot.

I've already confirmed my role as the tracker, so I see little reason why I should provide more information to mafia than necessary.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 13:02 GMT
#2064
I think you're scum
Computer says mafia
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 27 2011 13:04 GMT
#2065
Now that you're around, wanna explain that Gollum sequence you had? Or are you going to pretend it never happened.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 13:08 GMT
#2066
On September 27 2011 22:04 kitaman27 wrote:
Now that you're around, wanna explain that Gollum sequence you had? Or are you going to pretend it never happened.


I posted some shit because I was bored. I also figured it might cause mafia to jump it and try to paint me as 3rd party.

You do realize the entire mafia team hardly does the killings? So you can't actually clear people.

You need to die.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 13:09 GMT
#2067
Riddle me this, why would mafia shoot supersoft over you?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 13:09 GMT
#2068
You're the better player, you are a "confirmed" power role, they know who the medic is and yet they shoot... supersoft?
Computer says mafia
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 27 2011 13:18 GMT
#2069
Are you claiming that you know scum shot supersoft?

How do you know they didn't shoot draz and prp? Or double stack prp? Slip?

If you want to play this game, why weren't you shot? You called yourself a confirmed town in the thread, claimed Faramir, a likely blue, and are a veteran as well. Why is the medic claim still alive 2 days after claiming? Only scum know the reasoning for their shots, but I'm guessing trying to get the ring is at the top of their agenda.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 13:26 GMT
#2070
Because stabbed through the chest has been in the game since day 1. Strangled is almost certainly a gollum flavour, especially when you pair it up with the target (frodo).

But it's pretty obvious now that you're scum, because you're grasping at straws trying to make my logical conclusions seem like slips.

I have no idea why I haven't been shot yet, probably because I didn't really pay attention on day 1 and then proceeded to troll the thread for a while, maybe the scum team likes the fact that I attract stupid townies? Maybe you just explain to me why I haven't been shot? Was it not enough that I tunneled iGrok since day 2?

I don't really care anymore. The difference between you and me is that I have actually been trying to hang scum, you've been trying to save your buddy since day 2.

If you're town, you're terrible. I don't think you're terrible, I think you're good at this.
Computer says mafia
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 27 2011 13:32 GMT
#2071
Palmar, do you think it's likely that a town aligned medic would be left alive 2 days after he claimed? (Drazerk)
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 13:36 GMT
#2072
On September 27 2011 22:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Palmar, do you think it's likely that a town aligned medic would be left alive 2 days after he claimed? (Drazerk)


I think it's not out of the question. There is a distinct possibility he is scum, like it's actually likely enough for him to be hanged at some point. But I think killing Kitamanananananana should be priority.
Computer says mafia
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 27 2011 13:40 GMT
#2073
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 13:42 GMT
#2074
DIE SCUM DIE

##Vote kitaman27
Computer says mafia
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
September 27 2011 14:33 GMT
#2075
On September 27 2011 21:26 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 13:53 chaoser wrote:
kitaman on iGrok: iGrok claims third party. Kitaman says "Don't kill him, give him strict instructions and if he doesn't follow them, lynch him." iGrok proceeds to not follow said instructions. kitaman never gets on his case and votes for me first and only changes later to iGrok.


Nope, on day three I wanted you both lynched. Quit trying to argue how I favaored one over the another.


Let's actually look at Day 3 shall we?

On September 22 2011 07:27 kitaman27 wrote:
iGrok here are your conditions, if you fail to follow them, we instantly lynch you:

1) You will never receive the ring. Don't bother asking for it again. You becoming bulletproof is of little interest to town.

2) You shoot tonight at the target we provide you. You're not holding on to your kp until late game where you can decide to use it on whichever faction benefits you most.

3) You're not allowed to completely disappear for the remainder of the game. You don't get a free pass. You have to continue to give us your scum reads.

Between Palmar and Jackal, I think Jackal is probably the better choice. He just lacks the aggressiveness and the confidence that I'm used to seeing from him. He played a similar style back in PTP (1 or 2?) where he never really accused anyone and maintained a low profile as the serial killer.

##Vote Jackal58


You give strict retrictions to iGrok on the previous day. And then say that iGrok will be the day 3 lynch, regardless.

On September 22 2011 12:12 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 11:58 sandroba wrote:
Okay got info from the host himself. Town win con is to eliminte all evil and that includes ALL third party. iGrok's claim is impossible.


If that's the case, IGrok is our day three lynch (assuming he survives the night).


Also, later on you say:

Out of the lurkers, heist and ON worry me the most, because the are so conservative in pushing their opinions. I might make a better case on one of them tomorrow if I'm still alive.


and then you never do. Not once since then have you tried to make a case on ON or heist. You don't even consider that option, instead you're going to go for a "third party".

After the third day flip you post at about exactly the same time as I do:

On September 23 2011 08:34 chaoser wrote:
iGrok, did you kill anyone last night?


On September 23 2011 08:35 kitaman27 wrote:
iGrok, who was your shot last night?


You say nothing about tracking me till 6 hours later, that's 7 hours since the flip:

On September 23 2011 22:17 kitaman27 wrote:
sup chaoser,
I saw you return to your house with blood on your hands. Which kill are you claiming?

Sincerely,
Your number one stalker.


I later question you as to why you posted that so late and you respond with:

On September 24 2011 00:50 kitaman27 wrote:
Because I wanted to see your agenda for day three? Are you saying I didn't watch you kill someone? :/


And yet between the flip and you saying you tracked me 6 hours later, not once did you ask me what my opinions are of people, what I thought of the situation of town, or who I thought were mafia. If you really "wanted to see my agenda" you would have done as such instead of waiting around posting nothing at me, instead of asking questions to greymist and ciryandor.

Finally, you post:

On September 23 2011 23:20 kitaman27 wrote:
Faking taking a hit on day one is exactly what he did in the previous game with the dt claim.

##vote chaoser gogo


Apparently completely forgetting about iGrok, ON, or heist, and is intent apparently to lynch the guy that just claimed he shot radfield with no counterclaim. You don't even talk about being ok with changing your vote to iGrok in the thread, instead you just vote in the vote thread.

Yeah, ok, you're not scum lol.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 14:38 GMT
#2076
KITASCUM
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 27 2011 14:51 GMT
#2077
Okay people, now i will explain to you why Drazerk is SCUM. These are his actions throughout the game in a nutshell:

Day 1.

On September 19 2011 07:52 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 07:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I'm keeping my vote on WBG out of principle because I am sure he is either SK or Mafia. The fact that no one is even exploring the possibility that he is scum says volumes to me. If he were, in fact mafia, it's a fitting enough to say "nah hes obv just 3rd party he can't be scum if yoou vote for him youre scum becasue hes not scum" but we don't know what alignment anyone is only mafia know that :-)


That was my whole reason for voting for him originally and the reason Ill probably vote for him tomorrow.

WBG won't be lynched today but hopefully he will be shot tonight or lynched tomorrow.


He accepts DrH's reasoning to vote WBG, which is a pretty shitty reasoning.

On September 20 2011 08:17 Drazerk wrote:
Told you WBG was lying about his golum claim >.<


Wasn't it obvious?

Night 1.

- He protects iGrok, given that if hes a town medic, he wouldn't know he was mafia, but I can't see from townmedic perspective, how iGrok was the best target to protect.

Day 2.

- iGrok claims BALROG.
- After the claim Drazerk starts leaving clues about him being a medic.
- Drazerk claims hes a medic and that he protected iGrok, when syllo hit him. Why in the hell should you claim you're a medic when a confirmed 3rd party/scum claims?
- Drazerg defends iGrok, then votes for Jackal just to "consolidate votes" (i know, also many other ppl did that).

On September 22 2011 03:53 Drazerk wrote:
##vote: Palmar

Best choice right now in my opinion.

Busses his team mate but doesn't keep with it.

One of the first votes on the errandor bandwagon.

Largely useless day 1.


- Bussed his teammate, or he was trying to lead a lynch on scum! Also he kept with it.
- How is "one of the first votes on anyone" more scummy than the people who follow?

Night 2.
- Drazerk fails to protect anyone

Day 3.
- Drazerk claims RB.
- Drazerk claims he protects prplhz next night

Day 4.
- Drazerk claims he protected prplhz and chaoser
- If Drazerk is town, why in the hell would mafia go for a kill towards prplhz?? and not RB Drazerk. (Gollum i can understand, becouse i could think of his kill being unblockable by anyone but Sam, who is dead)
- Drazerk's other target was chaoser. Why the hell would you protect a 3rd party?? chaoser also claimed that he's bulletproof. If you think he's town, why the hell would you protect a fucking bulletproof guy?

Conclusion. Drazerk really protected iGrok over night 1. Drazerk lied about finding out roleblocker (what ability is this on a medic ffs??). Amazingly, he's RB the night he should find the roleblocker. Lying.. Then he protects the guy who still died (and most likely was double hitted), and a bulletproof guy.

Either scum or useless. I'm leaning heavily towards scum. If you can find more proof against anyone, i'd be glad to hear.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
September 27 2011 14:51 GMT
#2078
EDIT:
You don't even talk about being ok with changing your vote to iGrok in the thread, instead you just vote in the vote thread.


Actually, I want to correct myself. You actually do mention iGrok once in this post:

On September 24 2011 02:19 kitaman27 wrote:
Look, we both agree iGrok can't be allowed to live to engame. If he gets lynched today, then that's fine by me. If there is a chance he is scum, not survivor, it might even be a better choice to kill him first. However, there is no doubt in my mind that chaoser is not town. On day one he took a hit. On day two, he got caught red handed killing someone. On day three, he comes up with an extremely convienent role that explains both the hit and the killing. The fact that you believe there is a town aligned bulletproof compulsive vig just blows my mid. chaoser is probably going to shoot me tonight. The only "conditions" his shots have is that the person has to be a threat to him. He can't be allowed to laugh his merry way to victory as a "Boromir", when it is beyond obvious that he is not.


But you lean so heavily on my not being town, clearly with the intent on trying to get me lynch even though iGrok CLAIMED he wasn't town in game AND I had claimed I shot Radfield.

On September 24 2011 04:50 kitaman27 wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote iGrok


Your change to iGrok comes 2 hours later, after 6 votes and the town atmosphere clearly being in favor of lynching iGrok. That by itself doesn't mean much but when taken in conjunction with everything else that you did that day, I can safely say that you did NOT, if you could have, wanted iGrok lynched, instead wanting me lynched over him. Scum.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 27 2011 14:56 GMT
#2079
raynpeli, just lynch kita today with us, we can murder drazerk tomorrow.

I'm 100% he's scum
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 27 2011 14:58 GMT
#2080
On September 27 2011 23:56 Palmar wrote:
raynpeli, just lynch kita today with us, we can murder drazerk tomorrow.

I'm 100% he's scum


I'm heavily leaning towards scum on kita too, so i don't really care which one is on the line today. Let's see what they have to say about these accusations.
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