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United States2517 Posts
redtooth
I have recently come to the conclusion that redtooth is scum.
Reason 1: Irish_Punk13 puts some random pressure on Irish_punk13, supposedly to get him talking. As soon as people start to take him seriously, he begins hardcore defending Irish.
+ Show Spoiler [original pressure question] +On May 04 2011 11:39 redtooth wrote:^ Then please keep your comments out of thread to reduce clutter. Anyways, let us proceed with the game. Hey Irish_Punk13, I have a question for you: How good does it feel to be scum?Want me to explain how I figured it out so fast? Show nested quote +On May 04 2011 11:33 Irish_Punk13 wrote:On May 04 2011 11:28 ilovejonn wrote:
chaoser and chaos13 posting within 3 minutes of each other, SUSPICIOUS! lol Glad to see you Chaos13. I'm sure I'll feel more at home in this game since I know 3-4 of the people playing. I think Jackal and Coag are in this too, so this should be a lot of fun.  Obvscumtell. Please be more discrete next time. I'll put my vote on as soon as the thread gets made. 1 scum down, 5 to go.
+ Show Spoiler [repeated defenses] +There's an obscenely long post calling chaoser scum because he's pressuring Irish_Punk. It's a chainsaw defense, and it starts with the following:[ On May 05 2011 14:48 redtooth wrote:
FoS: Chaoser
Reason 1: The Irish Lynch PushHonestly, let’s be serious: the Irish argument is a joke. There really isn’t enough of a basis to keep pushing it and it has only wasted massive amounts of time that could have been spent doing other stuff. Obviously not many people have been convinced, even though the reasoning behind this is pretty depressing in and of itself On May 05 2011 21:42 redtooth wrote:@Chaoser - I don't see how the argument is weak or convoluted. It essentially boils down to two things: - You are pushing a lynch on Irish, an obvtown
- You are FoSing all the easy targets, many of whom are obvtown
note that chaoser has correctly pegged what, four scum now? On May 06 2011 05:41 redtooth wrote:
Irish I still think is town. Kurumi, I'll have to check again. Still leaning towards town though. Actually, where the hell did you even get that line of thought from my previous post?
I'm running out of time to make this post, so I'll summarize the rest of my thoughts: He states how terrible the town is after 1 mislynch and then imposes ridiculous rules in an attempt to clean up town's posting. This seems like an attempt to seem pro-town. When people show resistance, he gives up.
He's been on the wrong side of a couple of arguments, including irish_Punk and Amber (up until the roleclaim). he voted for himself day 3 and has been very quiet lately. Let's see if I live today, if so i'll elaborate.
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Day 5![[image loading]](http://harsharajgatty.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/cornered-20kitten1.jpg)
He had been running for so long. A new house every night, different shadows every day. Kenpachi knew he couldn’t last forever. He was finally cornered, and there was nothing he could do.
At least he went down shooting.
Kenpachi the Night Vigilante is dead.
Day 5 is now underway! As usual, lynch in 48 hours. Have fun!
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United States22154 Posts
No troll post from me tonight, too much other work to do, expect one tomorrow at some point!
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United States2517 Posts
Yay I live! 1000th post by the way. Sorry if that post was really rushed, but I didn't leave myself enough time. I'm pressed for time in general atm, so I think I'm going to hold off and post a more well structured argument tomorrow.
@whoever was wondering if Kenpachi was actually vigi: I told you so.
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At this point I would be more comfortable voting jaminz or redtooth, because they have been far less active than orgolove and Impervious. If orgolove and/or Impervious is scum, at least they are active and have a very good chance of slipping up with so much attention on them. You can't slip up if you aren't posting, which is something jaminz and redtooth could be using.
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They took out an obvTown, nasty. One less confirmed Townie.
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United States2517 Posts
btw disregard my mangled attempt at a post above. it's unfinished. Check back in ~24 hours and I'll have a better organized, more coherent argument.
Going to hit the sack now, got school tomorrow, so won't be super active for around 18 hours.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
RIP Kenpachi. I'll probably post my thoughts on the next lynch sometime tomorrow.
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About redtooth, I´d be carefull in attributing that first Random-FoS on Irish, and the defence that followed, as scummy. It could be a plan, but it´s just as likely that redtooth did a random vote to provoke argument, then felt bad about all the negative attention Irish caught because of him and wanted to make amends. What is scummy however, was how he took a long time to stop defending Irish, even after people had found their own reasons to suspect him, but the initial accusations were not scummy.
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Oroglove is my number one and redtooth is my number two.
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Vatican City State1650 Posts
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Awwwwwww, so cute! Don't shoot the kitty!
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ilovejonn is showing up on a lot of different scum lists, and was on chaoser's scumlist. His list proved to be crazy accurate so far, so I don't think that ilovejonn would be a bad lynch for today.
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On May 16 2011 13:00 AirbladeOrange wrote:
Oroglove is my number one and redtooth is my number two.
Airblade, at no time have you responded to my arguments against you. You aren't really contributing anything at all.
Why did you try so hard to tie Kurumi and Irish together?
Why did you defend Jaminz and ilovejonn?
Why did you advocate not using blue roles?
Why did you post that everyone should analyse the people who voted for Kurumi and never do it yourself, only analysing Cthazsa who wasn't on the list?
Why did you advocate splitting up the votes?
Why did you attack Conversion?
Why did you attack Mig?
Why did you vote EternalMisfit?
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United States4714 Posts
On May 16 2011 15:11 Impervious wrote:
ilovejonn is showing up on a lot of different scum lists, and was on chaoser's scumlist. His list proved to be crazy accurate so far, so I don't think that ilovejonn would be a bad lynch for today.
Chaoser's scumlist actually hurts your argument since he said he went back over jonn's posts and didn't find them very suspicious.
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Ok while I'm waiting for AO's response I want to bring up another point about him.
Kenpachi was obviously killed due to him being a confirmed innocent. However there is another possibility, he pushed on AO on Day 4.
On May 13 2011 12:03 Kenpachi wrote:
##vote AirbladeOrange
i approve.
On May 14 2011 05:54 Kenpachi wrote:
K. i dont wan tto kill sinani anymore. hes being stacked on way too fast in the past couple of hours. i say we kill AirbladeOrange..
Post sinani206 lynch:
On May 16 2011 03:29 Kenpachi wrote:
That Summary is a bit butchered because Medics most likely exist.
Lets study the Mafia List
GGQ - Roleblocker
Amber[Light] - Goon
sinani206 - Goon
Irish_Punk13 - Goon
Now then, through my inexistent humble insight, i believe the other two mafia are well experienced players. Why? well, 1 of them is the Godfather which is GOING to be top tier in the mafia. The Goon that is left is most likely experienced because of the Mafia META.
You would never put more newbies that experienced players in the mafia due to heavy imbalance.
Our prime suspects are..
redtooth
ilovejonn
impervious
airbladeorange
hey theyre all experienced. Either redtooth or ilovejonn is going to be the godfather because i believe they are the 2 most experienced of the 4
Pressure vote on AO from me.
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Alright, its day. It seems that Redtooth, orgolove, ilovejon and impervious are our prime suspects.
I didn't remember why orgolove was suspected that much and checked his posts, because he was not on "kenpachi's last list":
+ Show Spoiler +On May 16 2011 03:29 Kenpachi wrote:
That Summary is a bit butchered because Medics most likely exist.
Lets study the Mafia List
GGQ - Roleblocker
Amber[Light] - Goon
sinani206 - Goon
Irish_Punk13 - Goon
Now then, through my inexistent humble insight, i believe the other two mafia are well experienced players. Why? well, 1 of them is the Godfather which is GOING to be top tier in the mafia. The Goon that is left is most likely experienced because of the Mafia META.
You would never put more newbies that experienced players in the mafia due to heavy imbalance.
Our prime suspects are..
redtooth
ilovejonn
impervious
airbladeorange
hey theyre all experienced. Either redtooth or ilovejonn is going to be the godfather because i believe they are the 2 most experienced of the 4
What I found on orgolove is that he is he is very focused on ilovejohn, calling for lynching him every day:
+ Show Spoiler +On May 16 2011 14:10 orgolove wrote:
So. ilovejonn. Lets go.
+ Show Spoiler +On May 15 2011 15:49 orgolove wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 14:59 DropBear wrote:OK I'm back guys. Good work on the lynch! Big up to chaoser as well  Firstly, welcome Xedat! Second, I am almost 100% ready to clear ilovejonn. The self-vote was strange and a bad idea but I can't really imagine a scenario in which a mafia would do this. Sorry for voting for you! Third, orgolove, shouldn't NOT voting for sinani206 give people red points on Day 4? I can't see how ilovejonn can be mafia after this.
The next point I want to address is AirbladeOrange. My analysis of him was heavily based around him being tied to ilovejonn. This lynch makes AO look much much better. On the other hand, Mafia are in dire straits now. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think we have another 3 mislynches up our sleeves, and that's assuming there aren't any veterans left in which case it could be more. In XXXVIII when our Mafia team was totally fucked, AO stayed on until the last possible moment. It's a trait he's shown before. I'm going to look over him again but my suspicions have dropped drastically following today's lynch.
I dodn't quote his whole post, its the one with his "tabelatutory" analysis
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To me, the data clearly shows that ilovejonn and AirbladeOrange are the remaining two reds.
I strongly push for ilovejonn's lynch.
+ Show Spoiler +[QUOTE]On May 15 2011 12:55 orgolove wrote:
[QUOTE]On May 15 2011 12:50 ilovejonn wrote:
bet he's still gonna stick to his data sheet and go with whoever has the highest points after tonight. because vote analysis is the best and only analysis am I right orgolove?
Nah, I'm still sticking my vote on you, scum.[/QUOTE]
For me it is very clear that either ilovejon or orgolove is mafia, ilovejon is attacking orgolove for only contributing with his excel stuff (I don't find it very helpful, to little sample size), and orgolove is tunneling (I hope i used that correctly) ilovejon, because he is so high on his list.
If we lynch orgolove or ilovejon we know the alignment of the other player.
On Impervious and redtooth:
redtooth has not contributed at all, I find that very suspicious, maybe we should force him into contributing?
Impervious as I said is on my scumlist, but if he contributes a bit more today he can live.
Summary:
I think we should lynch orgolove or ilovejon today, as it gives us information of the other player and they are prime suspects.
P.S.:
I will eat something now and maybe if I am bored after I will analyze ilovejon a bit.
I would really like to see an analysis of ilovejon that is not in form of an excelsheet.
I know that I did not touch orgoloves voting at all, I am not very experienced in analyzing that so maybe someone else can look into it?
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