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On March 01 2012 15:37 Toadesstern wrote:Oh and DocH since you brought it up again that I might be roleblocked twice. I shot yesterday and I failed (myself) the night before that resulting in not shooting. So mafia did not need to roleblock me twice, once would have been enough. I merely mentioned it to make you guys understand what happened and why I posted that one: I asked RoL after that nightpost why he's still alive becaue I thought I shot, turned out I did not and I had to make a freaky explanation why I said that + Show Spoiler +On February 27 2012 07:09 Toadesstern wrote:
RoL buddy, why you still alive? On February 27 2012 07:23 layabout wrote:
Toad, how could he answer your question?
On February 27 2012 07:30 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 07:23 layabout wrote:
Toad, how could he answer your question?
he's not supposed to. It was rhetorical and I'm just saying it looks really strange that we have not a single suspicious guy flipping because of vigs. At least both syllo and Jackal look like mafia work.
No hit on Night 1?
I believe you now.
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I'll have to reread to see if WBG is a better read for me I'm gonna second guess myself into oblivion today but it's definitely one of those two imo
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On March 01 2012 15:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 15:37 Toadesstern wrote:Oh and DocH since you brought it up again that I might be roleblocked twice. I shot yesterday and I failed (myself) the night before that resulting in not shooting. So mafia did not need to roleblock me twice, once would have been enough. I merely mentioned it to make you guys understand what happened and why I posted that one: On February 27 2012 07:09 Toadesstern wrote:
RoL buddy, why you still alive? I asked RoL after that nightpost why he's still alive becaue I thought I shot, turned out I did not and I had to make a freaky explanation why I said that + Show Spoiler +On February 27 2012 07:09 Toadesstern wrote:
RoL buddy, why you still alive? On February 27 2012 07:23 layabout wrote:
Toad, how could he answer your question?
On February 27 2012 07:30 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 07:23 layabout wrote:
Toad, how could he answer your question?
he's not supposed to. It was rhetorical and I'm just saying it looks really strange that we have not a single suspicious guy flipping because of vigs. At least both syllo and Jackal look like mafia work. No hit on Night 1? I believe you now.
no hit on n1 (that was after lynching redFF). It was a concealed flip after all and my powers only work after a townie got lynched.
no hit on n2 due to my own failure (that was after lynching BH)
shot RoL on n3 (that was after lynching prpl)
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I'd still say a RoL-lynch is still a tiny bit better btw as we tried to get rid of him for 3 consecutive days and it failed every time because of someone else who got hardpushed. Those 2 townies were BH and prpl, both times wbg was the one to "decide" the final lynch and he's the first one to say "ok let's start with VE" this time again.
I am convinced VE is mafia but RoL was such a pain in the ass that I'd like him to hang first and I don't want wbg to decide yet another lynch :p
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I'm not claiming my role - nice try though Doc.
If I'm soaking up RBs, all the better.
Toadesstern needs to hang today. His ramblings are now verging on actively hurting town, and we have to kill him.
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WBG/VE will give us a strong jumping off point. I don't wanna say lynch for information but if we take out RoL now all we're left with tomorrow is a split on VE/WBG and I'd rather get that out of the way now. I think rereading the game with what I know now will help me make a good decision.
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VE needs to be off the table for a number of reasons, but the most important reason is that I'm town. Stop limiting lynches DocH, it's scummy as fuck.
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On March 01 2012 10:09 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 10:07 kitaman27 wrote:
A scum medic protecting a town RoL would be pretty funny :p Don't laugh - we protected town-chaoser in BCAC. How was I to know he was gonna get town-double-stacked? 
mmhhhhh....
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The most useless kind of lynch is a last minute switch that is really easy and safe to hop on the bandwagon for. If there's a highly polarized lynch, the dead information + voting lists can provide a lot, even if the people accused are all innocent (then you can see who's manipulating just out of site).
Tons of bandwagons means scum gets to decide. I've been accused over and over for not pushing my cases or caring about the lynch. Now that I want to push one lynch I'm scummy? Why would I, as town, not want to see everybody vote for what I think is scum or will move town in the best position to win the game?
Saying "I'm town" is not a good way to convince anyone of anything and it won't make me lose confidence. Why don't you convince me to vote for WBG over you instead?
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Because I don't think WBG is the lynch today. I think Toadesstern is. And I think you know it too.
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And you're not just pushing one lynch, you're attempting to limit today's lynch to RoL, myself and WBG..yet give free reign to players like Toad who are playing maliciously poorly and are getting away with it. Like, why did you spend so much time clarifying Toad's case today DocH? You reached the same conclusion on your own, NOT based on Toad's case...why would you waste time and space trying to 'clarify' what Toad meant and argue that his argument doesn't make sense.
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Do you think toadesstern is scum? You said the other day he was just an easy mislynch? Why the inconsistency?
I believe Toad's claim considering his breadcrumbing. His play is awful and forcing people to expand on bad arguments is a good way to fish out scum. They have to make wrong arguments and the more they do it the more obvious it becomes. I think either you or WBG should be lynched today and I've yet to decide what I should push. I do not want to lynch WBG today.
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I meant to say RoL, not WBG. ^
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Well at least we're in agreement there - though your boy Toad doesn't share the sentiment.
Yes, I think Toad is scum. He exhibits bad logic and conspiracy theories in any game he's in, but this game is particularly bad. Also his use of the word 'confirmed' scum when describing myself and RoL nailed it home for me. He doesn't typically throw around 'confirmed' as a buzz-word and I think he was using it to try and manipulate town.
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I like bullshitting around. Imo it's a nice way to find out why someone's posting. There's lots of different people.
People who are happy to finally talk about something like how bad X is and therefore don't have to come up with something themselves.
People who are honestly confused about what I post.
People who should know better.
People who just aren't honest with their reaction.
Oh and it forced people to talk. I like talking!
Oh and it gives a lot of reactions :p
Oh and I also like do exaggerate pretty often. That's my one big issue that gets in the way but luckily gives information as well although it makes me look pretty bad even if I am town and don't mean to do that. So no I VE, I really use terms like "confirmed" or "the guy basicly claimed mafia in the thread" quite often imo.
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On March 01 2012 17:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well at least we're in agreement there - though your boy Toad doesn't share the sentiment.
Yes, I think Toad is scum. He exhibits bad logic and conspiracy theories in any game he's in, but this game is particularly bad. Also his use of the word 'confirmed' scum when describing myself and RoL nailed it home for me. He doesn't typically throw around 'confirmed' as a buzz-word and I think he was using it to try and manipulate town.
He let Palmar get away with claiming his role in BC:AC and even said "i know what palmars doin dont worry" and PM ended up being third party. He handled the situation with an astounding lack of sense and confidence that seems in line with what's going on here
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On March 01 2012 17:32 Toadesstern wrote:
I like bullshitting around. Imo it's a nice way to find out why someone's posting. There's lots of different people.
People who are happy to finally talk about something like how bad X is and therefore don't have to come up with something themselves.
People who are honestly confused about what I post.
People who should know better.
People who just aren't honest with their reaction.
Oh and it forced people to talk. I like talking!
Oh and it gives a lot of reactions :p
Oh and I also like do exaggerate pretty often. That's my one big issue that gets in the way but luckily gives information as well although it makes me look pretty bad even if I am town and don't mean to do that. So no I VE, I really use terms like "confirmed" or "the guy basicly claimed mafia in the thread" quite often imo.
Case in point, Toadesstern ladies and gentlemen.
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You really nailed WBG with your case. I was stupid and biased and your points there are way better. I'm trying my hardest to discern between bad-town and mafia right now and I'm just getting bad town from Toades. His work as vig in AC was even worse than this and scum Toades won't have the balls to claim Avenger. His breadcrumbs check out, I doubt he has this much foresight.
Vote for WBG. He was manipulative. Look at how he buddied syllo day 1 then got masoned with him? Wasn't there a scum mason in L? WBG has been completely unaggressive unless his aggression was uncontroversial.
If anyone rereads my case on him day 2 and your case on him Day 3 it's damning.
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VE you didn't wanna vote Toades before because he was the "easy" lynch in your opinion. Why have you changed now? He's shown terrible logic but his scummiest posts imo were on the second day, not now in the fourth.
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My reads:
DrH
WBG
Layabout
BC
are scum
I'm dead soon and so is DrH
GL HF
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