Death Note Mini Mafia - Page 10

On September 01 2012 00:49 ghost_403 wrote:
That post would make more sense if it had ended up below Marv's post on the previous page. Serves me right for not specifying who that comment was aimed at.

(it's you, Marv.)

On September 01 2012 00:33 Shady Sands wrote:
Where are node and mementoss?

Also, Solarsail seems to be trying to skulk through an active discussion. I don't really like that.

On September 01 2012 00:56 Hapahauli wrote:


Speaking of skulking through an active discussion...

On September 01 2012 01:17 strongandbig wrote:
Well, I still find Hapahauli's posts about Hopeless suspicious. I agree that blackmamba's case on him was bad, but don't forget that the original reason for suspicion on him was that interaction. Anyone care to comment on that side of things? Like, am I just up a tree here or was he being kinda sketch?

I do think that "he made a bad case" is not sufficient reason to go after blackmamba. I mean, many recent games show that veterans can and do make bad cases on occasion, even when they're town. It's a data point, but not the strongest one.

But here's another question we should spend some time discussing before it gets too late. Assuming not enough players agree on lynching either hapahauli or blackmamba, what's better - no lynch or policy lynch on a lurker? The odds of hitting scum with a policy lynch are small unless it's Palmar's magic random lynch - so I see the main benefit of a policy lynch as forcing the survivors to shape up (and maybe some impact on future games, but imo we should be thinking about winning this one). Is that worth probably killing a townie?

I really don't like this post - I don't think it's a pro-town attitude. Policy lynches aren't "traps" to be sprung, you won't catch scum with a trap you announce beforehand. Policy lynches exist to promote good town behavior, and if you can get that behavior literally any other way, then that's better than the policy lynch.

I find this to be completely insufficient reasoning to justify a vote. It's aggressive for no reason. My impression here is that Hapahauli is voting Hopeless because he doesn't think Hopeless is on board enough with his anti-lurker policy, rather than because he's scum. Sure, lurking can be scummy, but I see no indication why this post would make Hapahauli think Hopeless is scum.

On September 01 2012 01:17 strongandbig wrote:
Well, I still find Hapahauli's posts about Hopeless suspicious. I agree that blackmamba's case on him was bad, but don't forget that the original reason for suspicion on him was that interaction. Anyone care to comment on that side of things? Like, am I just up a tree here or was he being kinda sketch?

On August 31 2012 12:48 Hapahauli wrote:
Tbh Hopeless, I really don't understand that line from you (that i referenced in my vote post). It's like you're suggesting that you'll need to be reminded and that you won't be attentive to your own lurking. Care to clarify?

On September 01 2012 01:31 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Momentoss
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363625&currentpage=10#189

If I'm following you correctly...
1) You don't like Ghost's defense of BMB
2) You think BMB is slighly scummy
3) You think Risen is not behaving like his normal town persona

Then... you vote Mr.Zentor for lurking? What?

On September 01 2012 01:21 Mementoss wrote:
I'm not too fond of the way ghost has been defending mamba at every chance he gets. It's fine to defend a player if you don't think they're town but leave it at that. Cause when he comes back to the thread he can just mirror the things that ghost said to defend him, or otherwise there is at least a lot less pressure on him to give an adquete response about his case and such. That being said, most of ghosts talk so far has been on this, so I would like to ask him if he had to make a vote now, who would it be and why?

My opinion on this BMB fiasco is that he seems a bit scummy to me. His posts just rub me the wrong way and his case was bad. I'm not going to go much farther into this as it's already been fleshed out by many but I'll be interested in seeing a response from him. The way he talks about his personal scum preferences is odd, and the question to the hosts could just be a scam to make himself look town, when he actually knew the answer because he received this fake role. I think the case was bad and forced from a scum perspective because if you look through his early filter he realized he was talking a lot, but it was purely filler, and was scared of getting called out on it soon, so he decided to make a case up so no one would call him out for "contributing without actually saying much".

I agree that Risen's play is not his normal town play, of guns blazing and doing crazy shit to get reactions out.

If we are going to set the tone here that lurking is unacceptable as town we might as well start day one, and try to set ourselves up for a winning situation later in the game. Also based on his less than stellar game history... So for now..

##Vote: Mr.Zentor

Also I think that people should be giving their gut thoughts and put in a vote at the start of each day, so we can discuss our way through the best person for the lynch throughout the day. People don't seem to realize how short a 24 hour cycle is, so getting a vote in ASAP is important for discussion and consolidation on voting out a scum. Obviously this is impossible to do on day 1, but I think it should be done for further days.

On September 01 2012 01:38 Mementoss wrote:
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Didn't you say you wanted to enforce policy lynches on people that were lurking the town? Or did you just say that because you thought that would be a typical town opener to the game?

On September 01 2012 01:38 Mementoss wrote:


Yeah that's correct. I didn't say I found ghost to be scummy because of it, I just feel you can get a more "real" reaction out of someone under more pressure defending themselves without help from another player, especially in a situation so far away from lynch.

BMB I'm awaiting a response from.

Risen hasn't posted enough to make a definite opinion on him.

Didn't you say you wanted to enforce policy lynches on people that were lurking the town? Or did you just say that because you thought that would be a typical town opener to the game?