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Casy's Fake FE [OSL spoiler]

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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-06 10:50:00
February 06 2007 10:48 GMT
#1
I nearly lost it when I watched game three of Casy vs July last week. The play that Casy made has not gotten the exposure it deserves, so I put together this little recap for you guys. Pens and papers out people.



Casy pulled a strategic move, so genius, it would make Boxer green with envy.


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July scouts Casy, who has a handful of rines at his wall area.

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Casy forces July's overlord back.

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Casy transfers a group of SCVs to his nat minerals so July's overlord can see them.

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Thinking that Casy is playing an FE build, July is too slow with his sunkens and is run over.

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That's how you beat one of the best Zergs in the world in 6 minutes.


Casy exploited the overlord scouting that all Zergs rely on to make their strategic decisions. Absolutely brilliant.

What do you guys think of this dandy bit of deception? Am I making too much of it? Is it more awesome than I thought and I'm missing details?
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tenringer
Profile Joined April 2006
United States31 Posts
February 06 2007 10:51 GMT
#2
I saw it and was truly impressed. I didn't even notice until I wondered why the sunkens were so late, had to go back and watch again. Good stuff.
AmorVincitOmnia
Profile Joined March 2005
Kenya3846 Posts
February 06 2007 10:52 GMT
#3
no that's pretty dern awesome.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
February 06 2007 10:52 GMT
#4
When I saw it I thought it was really awesome. It was almost as awesome as BoxeR's CC lift. It also actually won the game, unlike BoxeR's cc lift [lol~]

I do think July was a bit careless in that he didn't send in sacrifice lings to check up on infantry numbers/composition every once in awhile. If he saw the little batch of meds/bats that casy was massing up then he would have been much better off. Only using the ovie as scout was insufficient.
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sOnagi[3.33]
Profile Joined November 2006
Korea (South)886 Posts
February 06 2007 10:53 GMT
#5
haha..i mentioned it in the sc2.org thread, and no one wanted to discuss it!
i was very surprised at how the commentators thought that was a very serious mistake...you can hear from their commentary.

i thought differently, however...it was a pretty slick move on Casy's part. i dun think the overlord went close enough to actually see a command center, but once July wasn't able to verify (only thinking there was a nat cc) he sent his zerglings down to skirmish, thinking Casy went 1 rax-command center!

thanks for the pics ManaBlue!
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sOnagi[3.33]
Profile Joined November 2006
Korea (South)886 Posts
February 06 2007 10:54 GMT
#6
On February 06 2007 19:52 Last Romantic wrote:
When I saw it I thought it was really awesome. It was almost as awesome as BoxeR's CC lift. It also actually won the game, unlike BoxeR's cc lift [lol~]

I do think July was a bit careless in that he didn't send in sacrifice lings to check up on infantry numbers/composition every once in awhile. If he saw the little batch of meds/bats that casy was massing up then he would have been much better off. Only using the ovie as scout was insufficient.


i think July did send them down, since he wasn't sure of Casy's build, whether it was a 1 rax or 2 rax build. but making July think there was a nat cc done was slick in that he moved all his lings down to check up.
서지훈, XellOs[yG]: the Perfect Terran...이성은, FireBatHero: braQ Terran.
nortydog
Profile Joined December 2003
Australia3067 Posts
February 06 2007 10:57 GMT
#7
pretty well thought out trick but I think if july had of paid a little more attention to the fact the scv's didnt return he might of been able to react in time.
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ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-06 11:01:47
February 06 2007 10:57 GMT
#8
Cool post
I saw his SCVs mine those and went O_o
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
February 06 2007 10:57 GMT
#9
it reminded me too of Boxer's CC lift (and again this won the game as opposed to losing it lol)
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
February 06 2007 10:58 GMT
#10
I don't think it was a fake for 1 rax CC, because Casy had a fairly large number of rines, which he made visible. I think it was intended to be a 2 rax CC fake.

The cool thing is that it happened so fast that the delay in sunkens, and the possibly scouting of Casy's growing infantry numbers could only have been done in the length of time it takes to build a medic and a fire bat because once Casy had stim and 3 firebats and a medic to go with his initial rines, he was already at July's nat.

The time windows are so small that the tiny delay in sunkens was all Casy was going for.

So awesome. These guys have it down to a science.
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
February 06 2007 11:01 GMT
#11
If any of you are interested in seeing the game, it has been uploaded in this torrent pack.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tracker/details.php?info_hash=096c13e32a2d155415a1a3109795b1e579c15a30

Thank you for uploading it Kennigit!
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sOnagi[3.33]
Profile Joined November 2006
Korea (South)886 Posts
February 06 2007 11:02 GMT
#12
i meant to say that Casy wanted July to think he went 1 rax+CC. yeah you are right that he did go 2 rax CC, and that was the fake. July's overlord scouted before his lings made contact, so July didn't know the marine number other than the 6 or so that attempted to shoot it down, and by that time, his lings came down to investigate try to see the build.
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oddeye
Profile Joined March 2005
Canada716 Posts
February 06 2007 11:06 GMT
#13
I did not find it that impressive honestly. Since the scv aren't always mining... but yeah it won him the game I think.
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Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
February 06 2007 11:17 GMT
#14
W
O
W


that's awesome !!
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jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
February 06 2007 11:21 GMT
#15
Pimp. Totally pimp.
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Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
February 06 2007 11:28 GMT
#16
Sexy as hell. It's amazing how new tricks are always being invented
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
February 06 2007 11:32 GMT
#17
On February:06 oddeye wrote:
I did not find it that impressive honestly. Since the scv aren't always mining... but yeah it won him the game I think.

it was a little lucky but it was pimp from how we see it
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
February 06 2007 12:01 GMT
#18
On February 06 2007 20:06 oddeye wrote:
I did not find it that impressive honestly. Since the scv aren't always mining... but yeah it won him the game I think.


That's kind of the point. It all happened so quickly that the one extra round of drones instead of quicker sunk time is what got him that tiny bit of extra time he needed to attack.

The entire game from start to finish was only 6 minutes.
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-06 12:08:13
February 06 2007 12:04 GMT
#19
This was one of those things that within 2 seconds of seeing it, you say in your head "That's gonna be a Pimpest Play this year!" - And in a game where you don't see that very much anymore, that says a lot.

My jaw dropped, and I just kept thinking to myself, neo-emperor, neo-emperor!
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Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
February 06 2007 12:06 GMT
#20
On February 06 2007 19:53 sOnagi wrote:
haha..i mentioned it in the sc2.org thread, and no one wanted to discuss it!
i was very surprised at how the commentators thought that was a very serious mistake...you can hear from their commentary.


yea when I was watching I was yelling at the screen saying "NO YOU'RE WRONG IT WAS A FAKE EXPO!!!" I seriously was going to go insane at their stupidity (OSL commentators seem to be less intelligent bw-wise than MSL commentators)
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