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genius_man16
Profile Joined February 2011
United States749 Posts
September 18 2011 22:24 GMT
#41
Dear lord you need an option to lower the quality on your cast. I can't even watch some of the games because your stream lags so unbelievably badly.
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MyOwn!
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany2 Posts
September 18 2011 22:24 GMT
#42
this shit lags so hard..... better you didn't stream everythink fu
Lovin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark812 Posts
September 18 2011 22:40 GMT
#43
On September 19 2011 07:24 MyOwn! wrote:
this shit lags so hard..... better you didn't stream everythink fu


It's not actually his fault, but JustinTV's.. That said some owned TV alternative would be great in case something like this happens.
AKA SuddenSalad
TwoMagTrav
Profile Joined January 2011
United States195 Posts
March 10 2012 13:49 GMT
#44
I love the stream man, I watch the top 200 every friday. Any chance I could get your xsplit settings?

My stream is at twitch.tv/BioDieselTV there are some VODs on there, quality is pretty good but yours is a lot smoother. Any tips on settings?

Keep up the good work!
When I feed the poor they call me a saint, when I ask why the poor have no food they call me a socialist
Ascend
Profile Joined July 2010
United States120 Posts
March 16 2012 06:38 GMT
#45
On March 10 2012 22:49 BioDiesel wrote:
I love the stream man, I watch the top 200 every friday. Any chance I could get your xsplit settings?

My stream is at twitch.tv/BioDieselTV there are some VODs on there, quality is pretty good but yours is a lot smoother. Any tips on settings?

Keep up the good work!


720p@30fps Settings:
Preset: faster
Quality: 5
VBV: 3500kbps
Audio: 44.1KHz 16bit Stereo, AAC LC, 192kbps
Interleave: Enabled

1080p@30fps Settings:
Preset: faster
Quality: 4
VBV: 4800kbps
Audio: 44.1KHz 16bit Stereo, AAC LC, 192kbps
Interleave: Enabled

Capture Source: BMIS for console games, DXtory source (1920x1080 output) for PC games.
All overlays are either static images, or XSplit plugins I built myself. These include:
Scoreboard - Starboard (I made it, I should probably use it)
Player Rankings at start of game, Voting results

Scene Switching during Top 200 - R1CH's XSplit Scene Switcher
Automatic overlay switching and hotkey presses before and after games, automatic scoreboard updating both at start and end of game: A custom app I built.

Hope that's enough information ;D
Caster and Software Developer. Releases: "Starboard" "SC2 Replay Sync" "SC2 Replay Chat Editor" "SC2 C# Replay Parser"
TwoMagTrav
Profile Joined January 2011
United States195 Posts
March 19 2012 16:37 GMT
#46
Awesome! Thanks for the info! All these settings are very confusing. I also had a bad cable modem I finally realized that was hampering my upload speeds so now that thats sorted and your settings things are working famously.
When I feed the poor they call me a saint, when I ask why the poor have no food they call me a socialist
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
March 19 2012 16:45 GMT
#47
On March 16 2012 15:38 Ascend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 22:49 BioDiesel wrote:
I love the stream man, I watch the top 200 every friday. Any chance I could get your xsplit settings?

My stream is at twitch.tv/BioDieselTV there are some VODs on there, quality is pretty good but yours is a lot smoother. Any tips on settings?

Keep up the good work!


720p@30fps Settings:
Preset: faster
Quality: 5
VBV: 3500kbps
Audio: 44.1KHz 16bit Stereo, AAC LC, 192kbps
Interleave: Enabled

1080p@30fps Settings:
Preset: faster
Quality: 4
VBV: 4800kbps
Audio: 44.1KHz 16bit Stereo, AAC LC, 192kbps
Interleave: Enabled

Capture Source: BMIS for console games, DXtory source (1920x1080 output) for PC games.
All overlays are either static images, or XSplit plugins I built myself. These include:
Scoreboard - Starboard (I made it, I should probably use it)
Player Rankings at start of game, Voting results

Scene Switching during Top 200 - R1CH's XSplit Scene Switcher
Automatic overlay switching and hotkey presses before and after games, automatic scoreboard updating both at start and end of game: A custom app I built.

Hope that's enough information ;D


Is there any reason you are using Faster for both 1280x720 and 1920x1080? The second resolution is more than twice as hard on cpu to encode
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Ascend
Profile Joined July 2010
United States120 Posts
March 20 2012 00:17 GMT
#48
On March 20 2012 01:45 Cyro wrote:
Is there any reason you are using Faster for both 1280x720 and 1920x1080? The second resolution is more than twice as hard on cpu to encode


It's more or less because 'I can'.

Over the weekend though, when casting the Top 200 @ 1080p, I did switch to 'veryfast' instead, as I was having some CPU issues. The difference between the two, visually, is likely very little. Unless you have a heavily overclocked CPU in your favor, you likely want to stick with 'veryfast'. I know people using the hex-core i7's (3630 & 3690 i believe?) and they will use something along the lines of fast-medium.
Caster and Software Developer. Releases: "Starboard" "SC2 Replay Sync" "SC2 Replay Chat Editor" "SC2 C# Replay Parser"
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 04:38:44
March 20 2012 04:24 GMT
#49
On March 20 2012 09:17 Ascend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 01:45 Cyro wrote:
Is there any reason you are using Faster for both 1280x720 and 1920x1080? The second resolution is more than twice as hard on cpu to encode


It's more or less because 'I can'.

Over the weekend though, when casting the Top 200 @ 1080p, I did switch to 'veryfast' instead, as I was having some CPU issues. The difference between the two, visually, is likely very little. Unless you have a heavily overclocked CPU in your favor, you likely want to stick with 'veryfast'. I know people using the hex-core i7's (3630 & 3690 i believe?) and they will use something along the lines of fast-medium.


Ive been encoding 960x540@30fps using "slower" on an i7 950 for sc2 without dropping any frames in VOD's which is 5 presets below "veryfast" and it makes a massive difference at lower bitrates, i think there is definatly more room for pushing below faster if you have a 2600k @5ghz or something for 1280x720@30fps

I think a 3930k could probably go for 720p30@medium with 2 cores dedicated to sc2 pretty easily
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Ascend
Profile Joined July 2010
United States120 Posts
March 20 2012 06:30 GMT
#50
On March 20 2012 13:24 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 09:17 Ascend wrote:
On March 20 2012 01:45 Cyro wrote:
Is there any reason you are using Faster for both 1280x720 and 1920x1080? The second resolution is more than twice as hard on cpu to encode


It's more or less because 'I can'.

Over the weekend though, when casting the Top 200 @ 1080p, I did switch to 'veryfast' instead, as I was having some CPU issues. The difference between the two, visually, is likely very little. Unless you have a heavily overclocked CPU in your favor, you likely want to stick with 'veryfast'. I know people using the hex-core i7's (3630 & 3690 i believe?) and they will use something along the lines of fast-medium.


Ive been encoding 960x540@30fps using "slower" on an i7 950 for sc2 without dropping any frames in VOD's which is 5 presets below "veryfast" and it makes a massive difference at lower bitrates, i think there is definatly more room for pushing below faster if you have a 2600k @5ghz or something for 1280x720@30fps

I think a 3930k could probably go for 720p30@medium with 2 cores dedicated to sc2 pretty easily


Unfortunately, I'm currently using a Core i7-920 and have only got it stable up to 3.9GHz. I'm thinking of going either towards a 3930k or one of the new Ivy Bridge CPUs come May-June (when they're released). I could use native USB 3 ports on my motherboard + SATA3.
Caster and Software Developer. Releases: "Starboard" "SC2 Replay Sync" "SC2 Replay Chat Editor" "SC2 C# Replay Parser"
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
March 20 2012 08:06 GMT
#51
On March 20 2012 15:30 Ascend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 13:24 Cyro wrote:
On March 20 2012 09:17 Ascend wrote:
On March 20 2012 01:45 Cyro wrote:
Is there any reason you are using Faster for both 1280x720 and 1920x1080? The second resolution is more than twice as hard on cpu to encode


It's more or less because 'I can'.

Over the weekend though, when casting the Top 200 @ 1080p, I did switch to 'veryfast' instead, as I was having some CPU issues. The difference between the two, visually, is likely very little. Unless you have a heavily overclocked CPU in your favor, you likely want to stick with 'veryfast'. I know people using the hex-core i7's (3630 & 3690 i believe?) and they will use something along the lines of fast-medium.


Ive been encoding 960x540@30fps using "slower" on an i7 950 for sc2 without dropping any frames in VOD's which is 5 presets below "veryfast" and it makes a massive difference at lower bitrates, i think there is definatly more room for pushing below faster if you have a 2600k @5ghz or something for 1280x720@30fps

I think a 3930k could probably go for 720p30@medium with 2 cores dedicated to sc2 pretty easily


Unfortunately, I'm currently using a Core i7-920 and have only got it stable up to 3.9GHz. I'm thinking of going either towards a 3930k or one of the new Ivy Bridge CPUs come May-June (when they're released). I could use native USB 3 ports on my motherboard + SATA3.



I have that @3.72ghz, dont think its worth going ivy bridge from these CPU's as haswell will be a big upgrade in 1-1.5yrs anyway, the 6-cores will take a while longer to replace though. I dont know of anything that uses USB3 and the speed gain seen from SSD's is mostly from random access etc and not from sequential reading so sata 3 doesnt help all that much
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
March 20 2012 10:03 GMT
#52
On March 20 2012 17:06 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 15:30 Ascend wrote:
On March 20 2012 13:24 Cyro wrote:
On March 20 2012 09:17 Ascend wrote:
On March 20 2012 01:45 Cyro wrote:
Is there any reason you are using Faster for both 1280x720 and 1920x1080? The second resolution is more than twice as hard on cpu to encode


It's more or less because 'I can'.

Over the weekend though, when casting the Top 200 @ 1080p, I did switch to 'veryfast' instead, as I was having some CPU issues. The difference between the two, visually, is likely very little. Unless you have a heavily overclocked CPU in your favor, you likely want to stick with 'veryfast'. I know people using the hex-core i7's (3630 & 3690 i believe?) and they will use something along the lines of fast-medium.


Ive been encoding 960x540@30fps using "slower" on an i7 950 for sc2 without dropping any frames in VOD's which is 5 presets below "veryfast" and it makes a massive difference at lower bitrates, i think there is definatly more room for pushing below faster if you have a 2600k @5ghz or something for 1280x720@30fps

I think a 3930k could probably go for 720p30@medium with 2 cores dedicated to sc2 pretty easily


Unfortunately, I'm currently using a Core i7-920 and have only got it stable up to 3.9GHz. I'm thinking of going either towards a 3930k or one of the new Ivy Bridge CPUs come May-June (when they're released). I could use native USB 3 ports on my motherboard + SATA3.



I have that @3.72ghz, dont think its worth going ivy bridge from these CPU's as haswell will be a big upgrade in 1-1.5yrs anyway, the 6-cores will take a while longer to replace though. I dont know of anything that uses USB3 and the speed gain seen from SSD's is mostly from random access etc and not from sequential reading so sata 3 doesnt help all that much


I've got a 930 D0 @4.2Ghz, able to encode with slower 1280x720@24fps without any issues at all, I'm using dxtory to capture the game, haven't tried using screen region to see the performance difference.

visually at low bitrate the difference is huge, at least for first person when I'm jumping the camera around constantly.
Ascend
Profile Joined July 2010
United States120 Posts
March 22 2012 03:23 GMT
#53
On March 20 2012 17:06 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 15:30 Ascend wrote:
On March 20 2012 13:24 Cyro wrote:
On March 20 2012 09:17 Ascend wrote:
On March 20 2012 01:45 Cyro wrote:
Is there any reason you are using Faster for both 1280x720 and 1920x1080? The second resolution is more than twice as hard on cpu to encode


It's more or less because 'I can'.

Over the weekend though, when casting the Top 200 @ 1080p, I did switch to 'veryfast' instead, as I was having some CPU issues. The difference between the two, visually, is likely very little. Unless you have a heavily overclocked CPU in your favor, you likely want to stick with 'veryfast'. I know people using the hex-core i7's (3630 & 3690 i believe?) and they will use something along the lines of fast-medium.


Ive been encoding 960x540@30fps using "slower" on an i7 950 for sc2 without dropping any frames in VOD's which is 5 presets below "veryfast" and it makes a massive difference at lower bitrates, i think there is definatly more room for pushing below faster if you have a 2600k @5ghz or something for 1280x720@30fps

I think a 3930k could probably go for 720p30@medium with 2 cores dedicated to sc2 pretty easily


Unfortunately, I'm currently using a Core i7-920 and have only got it stable up to 3.9GHz. I'm thinking of going either towards a 3930k or one of the new Ivy Bridge CPUs come May-June (when they're released). I could use native USB 3 ports on my motherboard + SATA3.



I have that @3.72ghz, dont think its worth going ivy bridge from these CPU's as haswell will be a big upgrade in 1-1.5yrs anyway, the 6-cores will take a while longer to replace though. I dont know of anything that uses USB3 and the speed gain seen from SSD's is mostly from random access etc and not from sequential reading so sata 3 doesnt help all that much


I've used the Blackmagic Intensity Shuttle for about the last year for streaming Xbox 360 and PS3, it's USB3 only and my PCI drivers have been starting to give BSOD issues...
Caster and Software Developer. Releases: "Starboard" "SC2 Replay Sync" "SC2 Replay Chat Editor" "SC2 C# Replay Parser"
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
March 22 2012 14:49 GMT
#54
On March 20 2012 19:03 CatNzHat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 17:06 Cyro wrote:
On March 20 2012 15:30 Ascend wrote:
On March 20 2012 13:24 Cyro wrote:
On March 20 2012 09:17 Ascend wrote:
On March 20 2012 01:45 Cyro wrote:
Is there any reason you are using Faster for both 1280x720 and 1920x1080? The second resolution is more than twice as hard on cpu to encode


It's more or less because 'I can'.

Over the weekend though, when casting the Top 200 @ 1080p, I did switch to 'veryfast' instead, as I was having some CPU issues. The difference between the two, visually, is likely very little. Unless you have a heavily overclocked CPU in your favor, you likely want to stick with 'veryfast'. I know people using the hex-core i7's (3630 & 3690 i believe?) and they will use something along the lines of fast-medium.


Ive been encoding 960x540@30fps using "slower" on an i7 950 for sc2 without dropping any frames in VOD's which is 5 presets below "veryfast" and it makes a massive difference at lower bitrates, i think there is definatly more room for pushing below faster if you have a 2600k @5ghz or something for 1280x720@30fps

I think a 3930k could probably go for 720p30@medium with 2 cores dedicated to sc2 pretty easily


Unfortunately, I'm currently using a Core i7-920 and have only got it stable up to 3.9GHz. I'm thinking of going either towards a 3930k or one of the new Ivy Bridge CPUs come May-June (when they're released). I could use native USB 3 ports on my motherboard + SATA3.



I have that @3.72ghz, dont think its worth going ivy bridge from these CPU's as haswell will be a big upgrade in 1-1.5yrs anyway, the 6-cores will take a while longer to replace though. I dont know of anything that uses USB3 and the speed gain seen from SSD's is mostly from random access etc and not from sequential reading so sata 3 doesnt help all that much


I've got a 930 D0 @4.2Ghz, able to encode with slower 1280x720@24fps without any issues at all, I'm using dxtory to capture the game, haven't tried using screen region to see the performance difference.

visually at low bitrate the difference is huge, at least for first person when I'm jumping the camera around constantly.



Now try encoding that with 1.5/2 cores dedicated to running SC2 smoothly

The whole screen region/dxtory thing is about ingame performance not encoding performance or stream quality
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
March 22 2012 14:51 GMT
#55
On March 22 2012 12:23 Ascend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 17:06 Cyro wrote:
On March 20 2012 15:30 Ascend wrote:
On March 20 2012 13:24 Cyro wrote:
On March 20 2012 09:17 Ascend wrote:
On March 20 2012 01:45 Cyro wrote:
Is there any reason you are using Faster for both 1280x720 and 1920x1080? The second resolution is more than twice as hard on cpu to encode


It's more or less because 'I can'.

Over the weekend though, when casting the Top 200 @ 1080p, I did switch to 'veryfast' instead, as I was having some CPU issues. The difference between the two, visually, is likely very little. Unless you have a heavily overclocked CPU in your favor, you likely want to stick with 'veryfast'. I know people using the hex-core i7's (3630 & 3690 i believe?) and they will use something along the lines of fast-medium.


Ive been encoding 960x540@30fps using "slower" on an i7 950 for sc2 without dropping any frames in VOD's which is 5 presets below "veryfast" and it makes a massive difference at lower bitrates, i think there is definatly more room for pushing below faster if you have a 2600k @5ghz or something for 1280x720@30fps

I think a 3930k could probably go for 720p30@medium with 2 cores dedicated to sc2 pretty easily


Unfortunately, I'm currently using a Core i7-920 and have only got it stable up to 3.9GHz. I'm thinking of going either towards a 3930k or one of the new Ivy Bridge CPUs come May-June (when they're released). I could use native USB 3 ports on my motherboard + SATA3.



I have that @3.72ghz, dont think its worth going ivy bridge from these CPU's as haswell will be a big upgrade in 1-1.5yrs anyway, the 6-cores will take a while longer to replace though. I dont know of anything that uses USB3 and the speed gain seen from SSD's is mostly from random access etc and not from sequential reading so sata 3 doesnt help all that much


I've used the Blackmagic Intensity Shuttle for about the last year for streaming Xbox 360 and PS3, it's USB3 only and my PCI drivers have been starting to give BSOD issues...


ahh, i dont really know anything about how capture cards work, havnt looked into them as i had weirdly almost 0 performance hit from screen capture and i only have one PC worthy of encoding anything (no consoles etc)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Lega-
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada141 Posts
March 24 2012 04:26 GMT
#56
No show tonight?
CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
March 24 2012 04:40 GMT
#57
On March 22 2012 23:49 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 19:03 CatNzHat wrote:
On March 20 2012 17:06 Cyro wrote:
On March 20 2012 15:30 Ascend wrote:
On March 20 2012 13:24 Cyro wrote:
On March 20 2012 09:17 Ascend wrote:
On March 20 2012 01:45 Cyro wrote:
Is there any reason you are using Faster for both 1280x720 and 1920x1080? The second resolution is more than twice as hard on cpu to encode


It's more or less because 'I can'.

Over the weekend though, when casting the Top 200 @ 1080p, I did switch to 'veryfast' instead, as I was having some CPU issues. The difference between the two, visually, is likely very little. Unless you have a heavily overclocked CPU in your favor, you likely want to stick with 'veryfast'. I know people using the hex-core i7's (3630 & 3690 i believe?) and they will use something along the lines of fast-medium.


Ive been encoding 960x540@30fps using "slower" on an i7 950 for sc2 without dropping any frames in VOD's which is 5 presets below "veryfast" and it makes a massive difference at lower bitrates, i think there is definatly more room for pushing below faster if you have a 2600k @5ghz or something for 1280x720@30fps

I think a 3930k could probably go for 720p30@medium with 2 cores dedicated to sc2 pretty easily


Unfortunately, I'm currently using a Core i7-920 and have only got it stable up to 3.9GHz. I'm thinking of going either towards a 3930k or one of the new Ivy Bridge CPUs come May-June (when they're released). I could use native USB 3 ports on my motherboard + SATA3.



I have that @3.72ghz, dont think its worth going ivy bridge from these CPU's as haswell will be a big upgrade in 1-1.5yrs anyway, the 6-cores will take a while longer to replace though. I dont know of anything that uses USB3 and the speed gain seen from SSD's is mostly from random access etc and not from sequential reading so sata 3 doesnt help all that much


I've got a 930 D0 @4.2Ghz, able to encode with slower 1280x720@24fps without any issues at all, I'm using dxtory to capture the game, haven't tried using screen region to see the performance difference.

visually at low bitrate the difference is huge, at least for first person when I'm jumping the camera around constantly.



Now try encoding that with 1.5/2 cores dedicated to running SC2 smoothly

The whole screen region/dxtory thing is about ingame performance not encoding performance or stream quality


I get no lag in game when allowing the OS to control which threads run on which cores, i see no reason to change that.
Ascend
Profile Joined July 2010
United States120 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 07:08:01
March 24 2012 07:07 GMT
#58
On March 24 2012 13:26 KraVe wrote:
No show tonight?


Nope, no show. Conflicts with MLG, where Thundertoss is.

You would have known if you followed on twitter: http://twitter.com/ascendsc2 </shamelessplug>
Caster and Software Developer. Releases: "Starboard" "SC2 Replay Sync" "SC2 Replay Chat Editor" "SC2 C# Replay Parser"
Lega-
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada141 Posts
March 24 2012 12:50 GMT
#59
Thanks! Not a twitter user but maybe I'll sign up
nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
June 12 2012 18:44 GMT
#60
Watching you cast TSL at the moment, much obliged, jolly good show.
Broodwar AI :) http://sscaitournament.com http://www.starcraftai.com/wiki/Main_Page
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