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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
On June 29 2012 09:12 wherebugsgo wrote: Damn I was hoping for Germany vs Spain! (with Spain crushing face) Guess it's gonna be a boring final lol lol if the final is gonna be boring, it's gonna be thanks to Spain. Italy has played the most entertaining football in the top 4 and in my opinion the top 8 as well. | ||
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Tazza
Korea (South)1678 Posts
On June 29 2012 11:26 don_kyuhote wrote: They got to the final in 2002 wc. They had one of the easiest path too, Paraguay in ro16, USA in ro8, South Korea in semi. Ur totally right. How the f*** did I forget that Germany beat us during that magical run? Major brainfart on my part | ||
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
Germany played a good tournament although looking at all the expectations the offensive midfield did a pretty poor job most of the time. Podolski was weak or maybe worse, Müller did nothing special, Özil had a few moments but no phenomenal perfomances. Schürrle was weaker than he was in the preparation games. But the defense who everybody feared could fall apart every second was doing a really good job sans a few mistakes yesterday. Let's hope for a great final. | ||
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don_kyuhote
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Maenander
Germany4927 Posts
On June 29 2012 16:42 smr wrote: Enjoyable game. Those long long passes by Pirlo and Montolivo are pure gold. Germany played a good tournament although looking at all the expectations the offensive midfield did a pretty poor job most of the time. Podolski was weak or maybe worse, Müller did nothing special, Özil had a few moments but no phenomenal perfomances. Schürrle was weaker than he was in the preparation games. But the defense who everybody feared could fall apart every second was doing a really good job sans a few mistakes yesterday. Let's hope for a great final. Conceding 6 goals is not a good job. | ||
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lefix
Germany1082 Posts
The way germany is playing, conceding a few goals is inevitable. | ||
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
If you look at it this way you're totally right and I might have remembered the games from a wrong perspective (and I wasn't able to watch the denmark game so did not think of what happened there). For me it felt like: The offensive is what makes Germany a contender for the championship -> They seemed to be extremely weak especially because Löw wanted to win in beauty or something... On the contrary almost everybody felt that the team could go out of the tournament early because of the lackluster performances of the defense in preparation games. And atleast against Portugal and the Netherlands which were thought to be the important games to advance they outperformed these expectations (of course there was luck involved - pepe first game- but that is the same for every team now and then) | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
Germany still lack a striker that isn't a complete useless waste of space when it matters. It's funny how for all the hype Schweinsteiger has as one of the worlds best midfielders a 33 year old Pirlo showed the world what a real world class midfielder looks like. Germany were also incredibly arrogant this tournament and seemed to think the trophy was their's from the minute they realised Spain weren't playing particularly well. Nice to see them put in their place. | ||
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Neelia
Germany599 Posts
On June 29 2012 09:12 wherebugsgo wrote: Damn I was hoping for Germany vs Spain! (with Spain crushing face) Guess it's gonna be a boring final lol I don't know, imo Italy - Spain was one of the best games in the group stages  | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On June 29 2012 17:11 lefix wrote: It would not have been a good job, if they were playing a defensive style. The way germany is playing, conceding a few goals is inevitable. Rubbish. Italy have conceeded two goals all tournament and they play attacking football. Germany's defensive problems are that A) Badstuber and Boateng are rubbish. B) Hummels is a great talent but makes mistakes because he's young and learning and C) They field 4 players every game who contribute literally nothing to the defensive effort plus Schweinsteiger who I think lacks a lot of the positional skills in the middle that Xabi Alonso, Pirlo and Xavi have as a result of being a winger for most of his career | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On June 29 2012 12:20 ecstatica wrote: lol guy scored most of his goals against teams that likes of Gerd Muller didnt even know existed, like I said if he breaks the record it would be meaningless because he simply doesnt belong on that list. Some guy above said he doesnt have Balotellis ability, well, from historical perspective thats a definition of nobody (little harsh, but close to reality) blame my knowledge of football or w/e, that doesn't change a thing. Ive been watching it before you were born lol btw, Gomez is a better player already. Not for Germany, but all around. You know someone doesn't have the feintest idea about football when he thinks a useless lump like Gomez is better than Klose was at his peak. Total drivel. You have clearly never played the game at any serious level. It's also hilarious you mention Muller because clearly you haven't the feintest clue about him. Gerd Muller was basically Miroslav Klose only better and he did it for his club too. Muller was the exact same kind of player who appeared to not actually be good at anything on a football field and yet he scored a fuck load of goals. Muller took the exact same kind of flak Klose does and even know despite his phenomenal scoring record Muller is rarely mentioned amongst the greats of the game. | ||
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StoHazzo
Italy29 Posts
http://www.funize.com/Il_Giornale/2012/6/29 (ciao ciao culona - bye bye bigass) http://www.funize.com/Libero/2012/6/29 (vaffanmerkel - like f.u. merkel) That's disgraceful, the italian people (except the 3-4 hundred who buy these piece of paper) doesn't think that. | ||
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good5321
20 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6322 Posts
On June 29 2012 17:11 smr wrote: If you look at it this way you're totally right and I might have remembered the games from a wrong perspective (and I wasn't able to watch the denmark game so did not think of what happened there). For me it felt like: The offensive is what makes Germany a contender for the championship -> They seemed to be extremely weak especially because Löw wanted to win in beauty or something... On the contrary almost everybody felt that the team could go out of the tournament early because of the lackluster performances of the defense in preparation games. And atleast against Portugal and the Netherlands which were thought to be the important games to advance they outperformed these expectations (of course there was luck involved - pepe first game- but that is the same for every team now and then) Portugal was the only team that really tested your defense before Italy... You didn't outperform against NL, NL massively underperformed against any team both offensively and defensively. | ||
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
On June 29 2012 18:08 RvB wrote: Portugal was the only team that really tested your defense before Italy... You didn't outperform against NL, NL massively underperformed against any team both offensively and defensively. Reading some newspapers and different sites before the first match it seemed almost sure that Ronaldo alone is going to score 5 times against Germany. Several teams in the tournament had a better defense yes, but it depends which expectations you are looking at. I would say that Greece tested a specific part of the German defense almost as well as Italy did. Both teams performed good, fast counter-attacks which the defense struggled against. Didn't really matter against Greece because their defense was even worse... | ||
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pebble444
Italy2503 Posts
Yesterday Italy played the best football they where capable of, aldo we saw in the last 20 minutes what our team is like without balotelli, those 2 gools where of a fuoriclasse(true soccer talent). Also people lets not forget the great performance of Buffon. Goolies never get proper credit for their job, he saved at least one made goal and went close to saving the penalty kick. The reason Italy wins and advances so many times is because imo Italy has one of the best defences in the world. Holland for example does not have a good defence despite having a good team, and thats why they loose often. Defence and ball-possesion are keys for football. Looking foward to the final and comon guys, LETS BREAK SPAINS CURRENT TITLE-HOLDING!!!!! | ||
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pebble444
Italy2503 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/97xaL.jpg) Edit: for some reason Germany always has a hard time playing against Italy. | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
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Malinor
Germany4758 Posts
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M2
Bulgaria4181 Posts
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