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Malaz
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 11:34:48
June 29 2012 11:34 GMT
#1021
What a disappointing evening yesterday. After seeing the line-ups I was quite sure that we would lose. Löw tried to outsmart Prandelli but only outsmarted himself in the end. I hope he resigns now. Gomez is just dead weight for a team if he doesn't score. Klose can at least play football instead of Ping Pong. Why he also didn't start Reus is just beyond me.

So gg@Italy, you were the better team yesterday and deserved the win. I'll cheering for you guys in the finals. Hope you can beat the Tikitaka-catenaccio.
Goetzinho ftw
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany115 Posts
June 29 2012 11:47 GMT
#1022
Löw already fired? Can't take long.
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
June 29 2012 11:50 GMT
#1023
On June 29 2012 16:34 Tazza wrote:
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On June 29 2012 11:26 don_kyuhote wrote:
On June 29 2012 09:53 Tazza wrote:
guess germany still can't get past the semifinals hump. I remember 2002 wc, 2006 wc, 2010 wc where they all got dumped in the semis, and now i guess too

They got to the final in 2002 wc. They had one of the easiest path too, Paraguay in ro16, USA in ro8, South Korea in semi.

Ur totally right. How the f*** did I forget that Germany beat us during that magical run? Major brainfart on my part

2008?
This is our town, scrub
lefix
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1082 Posts
June 29 2012 13:01 GMT
#1024
On June 29 2012 20:47 Goetzinho ftw wrote:
Löw already fired? Can't take long.

I'll bet you 1000$ Löw will still be coach in the next worldcup
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pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
June 29 2012 13:16 GMT
#1025
On June 29 2012 08:22 sharkie wrote:
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On June 29 2012 08:20 pallad wrote:
On June 29 2012 06:53 Maenander wrote:
Italy deservedly won, congrats.

Germany was just too weak defensively to win a major tournament like that. Strong teams will punish the defensive lapses which happened again and again.


Absolutly true , you cant win euro without good defense. Germany is very good team , very good , but not in defence.

Im not some German hater ... but i think even if Germany have win today .. with this defence Spain should win final like 5:0 or even higher vs Germany.


Oh yeah, 2008 and 2010 they had worse defense, but Spain struggled 1-0 twice.

Please watch some more games before you state that.


It was worse in your opinion . Germany has one of worste defences in EURO 2012 , but they have good results because vs weak team Germany attack all the time , so german defense was out of play.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 29 2012 13:18 GMT
#1026
On June 29 2012 22:01 lefix wrote:
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On June 29 2012 20:47 Goetzinho ftw wrote:
Löw already fired? Can't take long.

I'll bet you 1000$ Löw will still be coach in the next worldcup


Shouldn't do that xD
Media get managers fired these days, and im pretty sure the Media in germany would of slated him pretty bad no?
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Malaz
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1257 Posts
June 29 2012 13:26 GMT
#1027
He won't get fired, no way. That wouldn't even have happened if we went out in the groupstages. His lobby at the DFB is just to good. I still hope he resigns.
pepe08
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany566 Posts
June 29 2012 13:29 GMT
#1028
Well played Italy. Rooting for u in finals.
And I'm sure Löw will stay as German coach. I belive he wants to do the WM 2014 and nobody will fire him. Niersbach our DFB president,allready told the press that Löw did a great job.
lefix
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1082 Posts
June 29 2012 14:07 GMT
#1029
At the same time, Löw set a new world record winning 15 competitive matches in a row, with the youngest team of the tournament.
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Perscienter
Profile Joined June 2010
957 Posts
June 29 2012 14:26 GMT
#1030
On June 29 2012 22:16 pallad wrote:
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On June 29 2012 08:22 sharkie wrote:
On June 29 2012 08:20 pallad wrote:
On June 29 2012 06:53 Maenander wrote:
Italy deservedly won, congrats.

Germany was just too weak defensively to win a major tournament like that. Strong teams will punish the defensive lapses which happened again and again.


Absolutly true , you cant win euro without good defense. Germany is very good team , very good , but not in defence.

Im not some German hater ... but i think even if Germany have win today .. with this defence Spain should win final like 5:0 or even higher vs Germany.


Oh yeah, 2008 and 2010 they had worse defense, but Spain struggled 1-0 twice.

Please watch some more games before you state that.


It was worse in your opinion . Germany has one of worste defences in EURO 2012 , but they have good results because vs weak team Germany attack all the time , so german defense was out of play.

It's only average but not one of the worst. What about Denmark, the Czechs, the Netherlands, Ireland, Sweden?

And did you smoke crack?

I also can't stand the trash-talking of newspapers. The German defence failed to defend against Bolatelli plus some random guy for two times in a row. That was basically the match. While the first goal was really well played, the second also was, but was hugely unnecessary.

Also, no one underestimated Italy. Everyone knows, how deadly they play and that they don't need a thousand chances to score (unlike Podolski or Müller).

I'm generally in favour of controlled, defence-oriented football. That always worked on the highest level, except you are Brazil until the 90ties. If you are not, cut the crap.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 14:33:50
June 29 2012 14:33 GMT
#1031
You'd be insane to sack Low. He's done a great job with you taking you from essentially a crappy side carried by Ballack to one of the most exciting and best sides in the world.
lefix
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1082 Posts
June 29 2012 14:50 GMT
#1032
Germany still has the highest percentage of won duels and scored the more goals than any other team in the euro so far. Also 3rd highest posession and 3rd highest passing percentage (spain 1st of course). I just cannot take any trashtalkers serious.
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AbuseYouMerc
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands171 Posts
June 29 2012 15:01 GMT
#1033
Im sad for germany... I wanted them to win so bad!!

Super Mario beat you because of 2 nice goals of which one should've been avoided... after that it looked a lot like holland did... opportunities galore, but all misses...

I was actually sad that that last +4 overtime seconds weren't alowed with that one last pass into the box... with the goalkeeper there :D
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 15:11:53
June 29 2012 15:11 GMT
#1034
I love Low because he eats boogers hahaha!

he ate loads of them in this game!
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Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
June 29 2012 15:12 GMT
#1035
I my opinion Italy played great and germany was a big failure in comparison.
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dafnay
Profile Joined May 2010
Angola375 Posts
June 29 2012 15:15 GMT
#1036
FORZA ITALIA
Hazzyboy
Profile Joined January 2012
Estonia555 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 16:27:18
June 29 2012 16:06 GMT
#1037
You can't blame Gomez because he scored THREE goals and now he sux? Realy?! What did Klose do against Italy? He didn't play worse or better than Mario Gomez. Creating chances is important but the only thing that counts is goals. Italy created 5 scoring chances of 99% but converted only 2.
The thing I didn't like was cocky attitude of German coach to sit BEST striker Gomez against Greece showing no respect for opposition. Yea checking YOUNG talent is important but you don't do it at expense of rusting your top player on the bench. I don't see Italy doing same mistake and making Balotelli rust in any game even if they had Greece in semis. One could say that Balotelli sucked and couldn't convert those one on ones for so long but he kept trying and scored.
Anyway Low did a great job but fans believed in hype of media to plan the parade early.
Gomez is an Iaquinta type of player and Iaquinta helped Italy to win World Cup in 2006. I still don't agree with referee who disallowed Gomez goal opportunity (Gomez took the ball from Capdevilla with strength and bassed to Shveinsteiger 1x1) against Spain in final EURO 2008 because Mario used his size to win the ball battle cleanly but ref pulled an upset with his decision. Just like Iaquinta who powered through his d-man and scored a nice header goal in WC 2006 run which was disallowed by ref. Those big guys don't have acceleration or speed but they have advantage in power and headers.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
June 29 2012 16:23 GMT
#1038
On June 30 2012 01:06 Hazzyboy wrote:

The thing I didn't like was cocky attitude of German coach to sit BEST striker Gomez against Greece showing no respect for opposition.


You miscredit Low and underestimate greece in one sentense, xP.
If he'd played with podolski/gomez/muller, we would lose from Italy yesterday and not the germans. It was a clever tactical move, he wan't cocky at all, lol.
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darr3n
Profile Joined June 2010
101 Posts
June 29 2012 16:28 GMT
#1039
a friend of mine even cried when germany lost, like really cried. it was kinda scary
I'm melting
Hazzyboy
Profile Joined January 2012
Estonia555 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 17:02:14
June 29 2012 16:45 GMT
#1040
On June 30 2012 01:23 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 01:06 Hazzyboy wrote:

The thing I didn't like was cocky attitude of German coach to sit BEST striker Gomez against Greece showing no respect for opposition.


You miscredit Low and underestimate greece in one sentense, xP.
If he'd played with podolski/gomez/muller, we would lose from Italy yesterday and not the germans. It was a clever tactical move, he wan't cocky at all, lol.

Playing your best striker isn't underestimation and Low did great by reaching Final, semi-final + stages of EURO in a row but everyone can make a mistake. If Reus/Muller/Klose scored vs Italy - Low would be king.
So Gomez being tied for best tourney striker and a clean best German striker this EURO would be 100% stopped by Greece or created less than let's say Muller or Klose? Is it normal not to start Christiano Ronaldo for Portugal or Alan Dzagoev for Russia and today Mario Balotelli for Italy? I believe Germany would had won with their best power forward Mario dressed up for game against Greece yes and Gomez would keep up his form and played better vs Italy. Imagine the ammount of time Gomez rested - after Denmark game, he played like 15 mins in TWO weeks.
It was what it was - Low decided to try out his bench. Gomez played every game before and after and if Klose was so awesome against Greece why did Gomez start against Italy? Well Klose started i 2nd period but again Low put Gomez to save the game from beginning. Can Klose play a 90 min game? Gomez sure can. Why try out Klose when even if he scored two he would still be less effective than Gomez at this EURO. It was what it was - making Gomez rusty while Balotelli who coldn't score with a ton of chances against Spain, Croatia and England was the starter in all games which kept him hungry for goals. Di Natale just like Klose are great strikers but can't be effective trhough 90 mins+ today! 4-5 years ago Klose and Di Natale would start but not tody. If Balotelli sat any game (even vs Ireland) than Italy could be not playing in the finals. But again it is what it is... I didn't like Gomez warming the bench when Germany played vs Greece and I feel he woulda played better if he didn't rest for almost two weeks prior to that game.
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