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TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
June 21 2012 05:53 GMT
#1
Every team has played 3 matches, so now it's time to think about what players have impressed you the most up to this point. Use your memory, use statistics, use player reviews, show what you've got, discuss!
I'll give my 11 players first:

----------------------Buffon-------------------
Hummels-De Rossi-Agger-Poulsen
----------------Jiracek-Khedira------------
Dzagoev-------------Pirlo------------Silva
-------------------Mandzukic---------------
Stimp
Profile Joined November 2010
South Africa780 Posts
June 21 2012 06:26 GMT
#2
Hummels plays CB, so why would he be best right back?
Don't count your apples before they've... grown
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 21 2012 09:16 GMT
#3
Dont agree at all on Khedira. Hummels is indeed on of the best players of this Euro so far.
Off-season = best season
PrideNeverDie
Profile Joined November 2010
United States319 Posts
June 21 2012 09:35 GMT
#4
obviously this is a biased list

Gerrard singlehandedly won the group for England ... as the only player for England playing at a worldclass level he should get one of the spots

also only Silva making it from the Spanish squad ... i hate them as much as you but u gotta give Xavi and Iniesta spots ... surprised no one called you out on that
If you want it bad enough you will find a way; If you don't, you will find an excuse
Stimp
Profile Joined November 2010
South Africa780 Posts
June 21 2012 09:40 GMT
#5
On June 21 2012 18:35 PrideNeverDie wrote:
obviously this is a biased list

Gerrard singlehandedly won the group for England ... as the only player for England playing at a worldclass level he should get one of the spots

also only Silva making it from the Spanish squad ... i hate them as much as you but u gotta give Xavi and Iniesta spots ... surprised no one called you out on that


*cough*johnterry*cough*
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MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-21 09:53:55
June 21 2012 09:53 GMT
#6
Gerrard and Iniesta? Also the number 5 from Portugal played very strong.
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-21 10:16:27
June 21 2012 10:14 GMT
#7
It feels like half the players i'd name on a "best" list are out already.
Ribery, Ibrahimovic, Zhirkov(?), Arshavin, Snejder, Persie...

agree with your pick of hummels. buffon probably too, although i'm not sure he was really tested in the group stage.
Silva after what i've seen in the last spain game. Didn't really notice him before though.

Khedira? maybe. I find he's always very hard to tell without looking at statistics. He's usually very efficient, makes few/small mistakes and doesn't catch anybodies eye. Unless he gets a chance to score - then he's probably even more harmless than Boateng, lol.

Can't help but wonder how Iniesta didn't make your list.
If anything, he's even better than at the world cup. His passing is akin to watching professional dart players throw, and his dribbling is getting very close to that of Messi in style and quality.
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
June 21 2012 10:26 GMT
#8
Van Persie on your best list over the past 3 matches? Are you serious? Sneijder played well, but he was about the only Dutch player to do so. Van Persie was once again abysmal (only seems to ever perform with Arsenal)
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
June 21 2012 10:29 GMT
#9
bruno alves
IM & EG supporter
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
June 21 2012 10:34 GMT
#10
Van Persie? I must be watching different games. If anything, he would be listed on my "shouldn't have even been capped" team
Leijona
Profile Joined March 2012
Finland56 Posts
June 21 2012 10:39 GMT
#11
I don't necessarily agree with Silva. And I would like to see Gomez. Guess that's just me.. And get either Xavi or Iniesta there. Even though we all hate Spain. But seriously, Mario Gomez..
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 21 2012 10:55 GMT
#12
----------------------Buffon/Neuer-------------------

Gebre Selassie--Terry--Ramos--Lahm/A.Cole

----------DeRossi-------Pirlo--------Silva

---------Iniesta------Gomez-----Ronaldo

The Czech Republic RB - Gebre Selassie, is a fantastic new player i have come to enjoy to watch, he hasnt put a foot wrong in this tournament to my knowledge and has ran up and down the right hand side with ease. Defo a guy to watch out for.

Goalkeeper's was hard to choose one between Neuer and Buffon, both have conceded 2 goals and both have looked comfertable when they were needed.
LBs could be toss up between A.Cole and Lahm, think it hard to keep either one out of the side.
3 midfielder players pick themselves, Silva looks great everytime he gets the ball as of late, Pirlo is the reason the Italians score imo, and DeRossi is having a blinder in his defensive role so far this tournament
Front 3 picks itself as well, Ronaldo looking great again is easily the best player in the tournament (on his day), Iniesta makes spain tick, so its hard not to even mention his name. Gomez, just for his ability to score goals from anywhere, whether its a hard shot from 20-30 yards or a header from out muscling a CB, super pick for the ST role.
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
June 21 2012 11:06 GMT
#13
Agree with most of your choices, Pandemona. Especially Gebre Selassie has really surprised me for the Czechs, but your choice for Ramos is a bit surprising. I don't recall Spain needing to do much at the back and whenever it came down to the defense, things looked very shaky. I'd rather pick Hummels over him.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-21 11:30:15
June 21 2012 11:19 GMT
#14
On June 21 2012 14:53 TigerKarl wrote:
Every team has played 3 matches, so now it's time to think about what players have impressed you the most up to this point. Use your memory, use statistics, use player reviews, show what you've got, discuss!
I'll give my 11 players first:

----------------------Buffon-------------------
Hummels-De Rossi-Agger-Poulsen
----------------Jiracek-Khedira------------
Dzagoev-------------Pirlo------------Silva
-------------------Mandzukic---------------


not working, hummels CANT play on side, isnt his position he can not even do it for fun he really is a center defender you have to change it with derossi


On June 21 2012 19:55 Pandemona wrote:
----------------------Buffon/Neuer-------------------

Gebre Selassie--Terry--Ramos--Lahm/A.Cole

----------DeRossi-------Pirlo--------Silva

---------Iniesta------Gomez-----Ronaldo


Did gomez goal ? Yes 3 times
did gomez be on the field the rest of the time ? no
he got a 5 mark in every game just cause he scores 3 goals doesnt mean to much, germany still plays 10vs11 expect the time he goals


---------------------------Hart --------------------
Boateng -- Ramos -- Hummels -- Alba

-------------- Khedira --- Krohn-Dehli

--------Gerrad-----Iniesta-----Silva

------------------- Ibrahimovic ----------------
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 21 2012 11:36 GMT
#15
On June 21 2012 20:06 Ysellian wrote:
Agree with most of your choices, Pandemona. Especially Gebre Selassie has really surprised me for the Czechs, but your choice for Ramos is a bit surprising. I don't recall Spain needing to do much at the back and whenever it came down to the defense, things looked very shaky. I'd rather pick Hummels over him.


I guess so, i just remember him sweeping up really well in game vs croatia, and vs Italy he did some good tackles. Hummels all i can remember is him vs Netherlands where he watched VanPersie get the ball from a 40yard over the top simple pass. Just stared at it in the air and i just thought well, that was bad defending. Plus Netherlands did score comfertably in that game and well so did Denmark from 2 headers inside the box, pretty poor marking was to blame as well.

But yeah that RB is insanely good.
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DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
June 21 2012 12:02 GMT
#16
On June 21 2012 20:36 Pandemona wrote:
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On June 21 2012 20:06 Ysellian wrote:
Agree with most of your choices, Pandemona. Especially Gebre Selassie has really surprised me for the Czechs, but your choice for Ramos is a bit surprising. I don't recall Spain needing to do much at the back and whenever it came down to the defense, things looked very shaky. I'd rather pick Hummels over him.


I guess so, i just remember him sweeping up really well in game vs croatia, and vs Italy he did some good tackles. Hummels all i can remember is him vs Netherlands where he watched VanPersie get the ball from a 40yard over the top simple pass. Just stared at it in the air and i just thought well, that was bad defending. Plus Netherlands did score comfertably in that game and well so did Denmark from 2 headers inside the box, pretty poor marking was to blame as well.

But yeah that RB is insanely good.

Hummels is statistically the best defender so far - data from Opta: 88% challenges won (only Pepe ahead), 13 passes intercepted (head to head with Terry, only Agger ahead), 16 won aerial challenges (only Ignashewitsch and Mexes ahead), no foul in 270 minutes of playing.
Had that risky moment against Portugal when his pass led to Neuer being fouled pretty brutally and didn't look to good against that pass to van Persie, but then, neither did the rest of the defense. Furthermore, one of the few central defenders to show offensive activity, sometimes trying to supply ideas to otherwise static german attempts. I'd take him into my top XI over Ramos any day, at least he didn't commit a should-have-been-penalty foul.

I agree with most of the rest of your team - keepers are hard to call, as this tournament had lots of shots, but few of them on goal. Might consider Sifakis, even if he didn't play too much.
Left defender is another position, Lahm performed far beneath his possibilities, and Cole didn't impress either, especially against Ukraine. Would probably pick Jordi Alba, even though the spanish defense hasn't been really tested yet.
Last position I'd change would be Iniesta - sure, he's an outstanding player, but at a tournament where only results count, he's not delivered enough to warrant this position. I'd take Gerrard over him - without Gerrard, England would already by flying home.

----------------------------------Sifakis--------------------------------
Gebre-Selassie ---- Hummels ---- Agger ---- Jordi Alba
----------------------------------De Rossi-----------------------------
----------Gerrard---------------Pirlo--------------Silva-------------
-------------------Gomez---------------Ronaldo--------------------

Bench: Hart, Terry, Dzagoev, Mandzukic, Ibrahimovic, Khedira
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4335 Posts
June 21 2012 12:15 GMT
#17
Hum some strange picks by some of you...but this is fun and I'll give it a try :p

First, in net: Casillas. Buffon is always solid and one of the best but I dont think he has made a difference for Italy so far. Although Spain dominates, often they relax too much and let themselves open for counters and Casillas has made more than a few key saves. Pletikosa and Hart are close but Casillas takes the spot.

RB: Ukrain RB was the one who impressed me the most so far. Does not compromise defensively and tries to advance often.
CB: Humels was a rock against Portugal and was also solid in the other two games, easy pick I think.
CB: Pepe not only for his goal but for his intensity has been a key part of the Portuguese defense.
LB: Clichy because I feel that changing Evra for him helped France get a little bit better. Thoughest position for me to judge...Zhirkov had a nice showing, Alba had some part in Spain attacking moves but didn't seem in synch some times, maybe with time he will be the pick. Others had some good showings but I dont find a clear winner for LB.

CM: Pirlo, no doubt, key man for Italy and playing well so far.
CM: Modric had a good showing and although this was a tough call I think he deserves a spot in the midfield. Gerrard, Xavi, the Italian MF that the name escapes me right now lol and a few other also had good performances and deserved a spot in the midfield but only two can play ^^.

RW: Dzagoev good showings for Russia and a decent supply of goals.
LW: Iniesta no comments needed I believe, one of the best if not the best of the tournament so far.

ST: Mandzukic hard working but not lacking in class, another bright spot for a good team.
ST: Ibrahimovic although Sweden is out, he tried his best and produced even when the rest of his team seem everywhere else but there. (it would have been gomez due to his decisve goals if the last sweden game didn't ended like it did)
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
UdderChaos
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom707 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-21 17:02:36
June 21 2012 16:55 GMT
#18
On June 21 2012 18:35 PrideNeverDie wrote:
obviously this is a biased list

Gerrard singlehandedly won the group for England ... as the only player for England playing at a worldclass level he should get one of the spots

also only Silva making it from the Spanish squad ... i hate them as much as you but u gotta give Xavi and Iniesta spots ... surprised no one called you out on that

While Gerrard has certainty made a few game winning passers, hes still just as defensively shit as he always is these days, not great off the ball, and he and parker let almost every other team in the euros so far dominate them in midfield, team with pretty shocking midfield, cant even name the players in some, and parker isn't the only one to blame for that. Gerrard isn't world class anymore.
Nunquam iens addo vos sursum
alderamin
Profile Joined June 2012
80 Posts
June 21 2012 23:07 GMT
#19
This would be my team. Not entirely based on performance so far but it is a bit as I would favour some people over others but they just didn't perform/are out of shape.

----------------------------------Neuer--------------------------------
Lahm ---- Hummels ---- De Rossi ---- Chiellini
-----Dzagoev------Ozil-----------Xavi--------------Iniesta-------------
-------------------Ibrahimović---------------Ronaldo--------------------


Iniesta and Xavi first two you put in the team since there is no Messi. Then Ibrahimovic and Ronaldo. This is beyond question for me. Gomez, Mandzukic, sure nice players. But not on the level of these two.
Ozil is the best player from the German squad by far. Dzagoev big surprise talent of thie Euro. So that's it for midfield. Defense is a lot harder. I really like Pique. Tall guy that can play well, which you see rarely in modern football. I can't field a guy like Pepe ever. But Pique has a really bad season so far.
I don't watch much German and Italian games, but these guys seem the next best thing to an in form Pique. Maybe I am wrong about Hummels. But De Rossi is certainly up there.
Then another defender from Italy as I rate their defense highly so Chielline left back. He also was part of the very succesful Juventus squad.
Gebre-Selassie shouldn't really be in this team so I remembered Lahm is actually a right back originally. This Selassie hasn't performed anywhere near enough to be in such a team. But he really made a name for himself so far.
I believe Neuer is the best GK. I'd pick him over Buffon partly because of age.

I feel bad leaving out Gerrard as he is such a big player. He carried Liverpool alone for so many years and how he finally is carrying England. But no space for him, sadly.

This is obv not a balanced team but this is a team of names. Zlatan and Rolando are going to clash hugely anyway.
LiamTheZerg
Profile Joined March 2011
United States523 Posts
June 22 2012 02:44 GMT
#20
ROONEY
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[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
June 22 2012 03:45 GMT
#21
On June 22 2012 08:07 alderamin wrote:
Ozil is the best player from the German squad by far.


what the fuck
Tiegrr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States607 Posts
June 22 2012 04:53 GMT
#22
On June 22 2012 12:45 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 08:07 alderamin wrote:
Ozil is the best player from the German squad by far.


what the fuck

ROFL. I'm sorry, that reaction made me laugh so hard.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
June 22 2012 04:53 GMT
#23
Neuer over Buffon, Xavi definitely should be on the list.
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rod-
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway379 Posts
June 22 2012 06:35 GMT
#24
Not a big fan of Portugal or Real Madrid, but Fábio Coentrão is a beast on the left side.
IMmvp~~
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
June 22 2012 07:29 GMT
#25
Might not have everybody on his standard position but I'll try my best.
Keeper is hard to decide as it seemed that nobody could really shine yet. I think one can't go wrong with Buffon/Neuer/Casillas. Maybe Pletikosa?

As for my midfield... Most of them ran everywhere they wanted so I didn't care to much for the position.

---------------------Pletikosa----------------------------
Gebre Selassie - Agger - Hummels - Clichy
----------------------------Pirlo----------------------------
Jiracek------Xavi----------------Iniesta---- Ribery--
---------------------Mandzukic-------------------------

Honourable mentions: Pepe, Pilar
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
June 22 2012 08:51 GMT
#26
I don't understand how it's physically possible not to include CR7. There are no better wingers and few better strikers in the world.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4335 Posts
June 22 2012 09:17 GMT
#27
On June 22 2012 17:51 sc4k wrote:
I don't understand how it's physically possible not to include CR7. There are no better wingers and few better strikers in the world.


As I understand it, the OP wanted teams made of players that in our eyes performed well so far (group stage). He did not perfom in group stages, quite the opposite so it is more surprising that people are including him for a team with best players from the group stage. Most people are thinking like you...oh he is a good winger/striker/whatever and probably the best in the tournament so he has to be in but at least to me, that kind of goes against the point of the OP.

Otherwise my team would be completely different had I picked the best available (well not completely but at least somewhat different).
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
June 22 2012 10:00 GMT
#28
I would throw in coentrão at LB, Pepe at CB and ronaldo FW

can't talk about the others because i wasn't able to see that many games
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greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
June 22 2012 12:45 GMT
#29
Ashley Young by far
Stimp
Profile Joined November 2010
South Africa780 Posts
June 22 2012 13:11 GMT
#30
On June 22 2012 21:45 greggy wrote:
Ashley Young by far


With a straight face?
Don't count your apples before they've... grown
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
June 22 2012 13:14 GMT
#31
[image loading]


Had a good laugh.lol
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