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Laids
United Kingdom596 Posts
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RolleMcKnolle
Germany1054 Posts
On June 04 2012 05:29 Harris1st wrote: I'm pretty sure Müller is in the starting formation. He and Podolski on the wings are trying to get some nice crosses to Gomez ( Klose) They will eventuelly get replaced by Reus / Schürrle at 60-70 mins into the game probably yeah, but Löw actually has a lot of different possibilities, as u can see here http://spielverlagerung.de/2012/05/30/9032/ | ||
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sharkie
Austria18671 Posts
that coming from Loew of all people lol | ||
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xsksc
United Kingdom1044 Posts
On June 04 2012 05:53 Laids wrote: I've supported Croatia every time since 98', since Scotland are complete pish and can't get to tournaments. Too true  | ||
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Stimp
South Africa780 Posts
On June 04 2012 17:55 sharkie wrote: "er wolle die höchstmögliche Flexibilität und man müsse sich vom Stammspieler-Denken verabschieden." that coming from Loew of all people lol I'm too lazy to google translation. Please translate. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7267 Posts
On June 04 2012 18:45 Stimp wrote: I'm too lazy to google translation. Please translate. He wants maximum flexibility with his roster and people have to stop thinking the starting eleven is always the same (no matter the enemy/strategy) EDIT: lol @ Retric | ||
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Retric
Germany284 Posts
On June 04 2012 17:55 sharkie wrote: "er wolle die höchstmögliche Flexibilität und man müsse sich vom Stammspieler-Denken verabschieden." that coming from Loew of all people lol you mean "högschtmögliche flexibilität" right? ^^ | ||
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GoooN
217 Posts
Group B: Jeez, under normal circumstances Germany and the Netherlands battle for the top spot. Portugal doesn't seem to be in good shape at the moment at all and Denmark is solid overall. Group C: Spain should win this group easily. I don't rate Croatia as strong as in 2008, Ireland are good at defending but lacking some power upfront. As for Italy it depends on how the recent betting scandals in the Italian league affect the team. Then again they claimed the title in 2006 after numerous scandals and Juventus' demotion into Serie B. So Spain takes first and Italy second. Group D: Sorry for the Ukrainian hosts but I see no way of getting through even playing vs mediocre teams like England and Sweden. To be fair England suffers alot of injuries now. Lampard and Gerrard never works so this is not as bad as it seems for now. Sweden has one of the most overrated players in the world in their squad but they are solid overall so it's a close call between England and Sweden to make it through. France should win this group in my opinion. Despite their unimpressive qualification they have shown decent performances in the past couple of months after massive changes in their roster. Quarterfinals: Poland < Netherlands (altho I'd never underestimate the home crowd advantage) Germany > Russia Spain > England France > Italy Semis: Netherlands < Spain Germany > France Finals: Germany - Spain: I have no clue who wins this. Spain is a bit weakened after they lost Villa and Puyol but that's the finals I am hoping for cos this seems to be the new rivalry of the recent years and I'm exited to see if Germany can overcome his nemesis Spain. | ||
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don_kyuhote
3007 Posts
 Just think of last Euro. Who would have predicted Russia to beat Netherlands, or Croatia to win the group ahead of Germany, Turkey to reach semi? I hope to see some juicy upsets this Euro as well  | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
Jelavic is our only other player with class similar to Modric. Reiko mentioned Srna and Olic, but those are bad, one-dimensional footballers. Other solid players we have are Rakitić and Ćorluka, others are average. | ||
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AgentChaos
United Kingdom4569 Posts
On June 04 2012 20:35 niteReloaded wrote: If Modric plays great, we can win the whole thing, if he's terrible we can finish 4th in group. Jelavic is our only other player with class similar to Modric. Reiko mentioned Srna and Olic, but those are bad, one-dimensional footballers. Other solid players we have are Rakitić and Ćorluka, others are average. modric doesnt play too well in big games | ||
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Sonic Death Monkey
Sweden991 Posts
On June 04 2012 19:25 GoooN wrote: Quarterfinals: Russia > Netherlands (altho I'd never underestimate the home crowd advantage) Germany > Poland Spain > England France > Italy Semis: Russia < Spain Germany > France Finals: Germany > Spain Very close to my predictions, FYP'd with my "corrections". | ||
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Sonic Death Monkey
Sweden991 Posts
On June 04 2012 20:16 don_kyuhote wrote: haha, that is more or less an upsetless bracket prediction you got there. Just think of last Euro. Who would have predicted Russia to beat Netherlands, or Croatia to win the group ahead of Germany, Turkey to reach semi? I hope to see some juicy upsets this Euro as well Russia beat Netherlands last Euro as well? Missed a lot of that tournament because of travelling (I remember them humiliating Sweden all too well though). I think the Russians will be this Euro's upset as well. I also see a lot of upset potential in Group D, as I think France will advance but don't think England is a sure bet for second at all (Italy could easily get knocked out by Croatia as well). The only real big upsets, in my mind, would be Spain not advancing or Denmark/Ireland advancing. | ||
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NuclearJudas
6546 Posts
On June 04 2012 19:25 GoooN wrote: Sweden has one of the most overrated players in the world in their squad Okay, I'll bite. I assume you're speaking of the top scorer of the Serie A, Zlatan Ibrahimović, who until this year had an insane run of winning the premier league of every nation he was in since 2001? He's hyped to the high heavens here in Sweden, but you'd have to be pretty stupid to think that he's actually a bad player. He's world class for sure, but has struggled in international games for a pretty long time. I can definitely see him scoring on Ukraine and England, and even France. It's time for some Giant Killing. :D I'm obviously a bit biased but whatever. *Sweden cap off* As for the rest of your post, I mostly agree. I have Germany beating Spain in the final, but I can definitely see Spain be eliminated by a hot Netherlands with Van Persie in good form. | ||
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Sonic Death Monkey
Sweden991 Posts
On June 04 2012 05:29 Harris1st wrote: I'm pretty sure Müller is in the starting formation. He and Podolski on the wings are trying to get some nice crosses to Gomez ( Klose) They will eventuelly get replaced by Reus / Schürrle at 60-70 mins into the game I tend to agree that Löw is going to play it safe with Podolski and Müller. Seing that you're German, I got some questions for you (and others): - Do you think Reus will be the first pick replacing Müller, instead of Götze? - To me it seems like Podolski/Schürrle are mainly used as left-wingers and Müller/Götze right-wingers. Would that be accurate or do you think Löw will switch it up? What about Reus? - Do you think Kroos will be used mainly as a substitution for Schweinsteiger and Khedira (or possibly starting instead or Khedira) or do you think he might be used as an attacking midfielder? - Million dollar question: Klose or Gomez in the starting lineup, who do you think Löw will choose? | ||
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don_kyuhote
3007 Posts
On June 04 2012 23:39 Sonic Death Monkey wrote: - Million dollar question: Klose or Gomez in the starting lineup, who do you think Löw will choose? Even though I don't know anything about current form of those two, as far as starting lineup goes, I find it hard to not see Klose. Whatever his club form may be, that guy just knows how to turn the switch on when he plays for national team. Besides, I vividly remember seeing Gomez starting in last Euro, and that was pretty aweful | ||
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Sonic Death Monkey
Sweden991 Posts
On June 04 2012 23:45 don_kyuhote wrote: Even though I don't know anything about current form of those two, as far as starting lineup goes, I find it hard to not see Klose. Whatever his club form may be, that guy just knows how to turn the switch on when he plays for national team. Besides, I vividly remember seeing Gomez starting in last Euro, and that was pretty aweful Based on past performance in the national team it'd be an easy pick for sure. Gomez scored second most goals in both Bundesliga and Champions League though, whereas Klose comes from an average season in Serie A, so you'd wonder at what point Gomez becomes the #1 man for the starting lineup. However, it seems Klose would be the safer pick and when it comes to championship play, safe is often the way to go. | ||
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Retric
Germany284 Posts
On June 04 2012 23:39 Sonic Death Monkey wrote: I tend to agree that Löw is going to play it safe with Podolski and Müller. Seing that you're German, I got some questions for you (and others): - Do you think Reus will be the first pick replacing Müller, instead of Götze? yes, Götze is just not fit. i don't know, but it seems that he gained so much weight when he was injured. I saw a picture of his naked upper body from the locker room celebrations 1 month ago, and he was pretty fat, no abs visible whatsoever. | ||
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Sonic Death Monkey
Sweden991 Posts
Boateng - Mertesacker - Badstuber - Lahm I don't see why Löw would play that defense for 90 minutes in the last match before the Euro otherwise. | ||
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Retric
Germany284 Posts
On June 05 2012 00:10 Sonic Death Monkey wrote: Another question about the German team, after the game against Israel, isn't it pretty clear the defense will look like this: Boateng - Mertesacker - Badstuber - Lahm I don't see why Löw would play that defense for 90 minutes in the last match before the Euro otherwise. as a bayern fan i am still hoping that Badstuber and Hummels will play central defenders and not Mertesacker who was injured for 4 months or so. Mertesacker and Badstuber are too similar imo. Badstuber + Hummels or Badstuber + Boateng would be perfect. But if Boateng plays central defender, schmelzer plays left back and schmelzer is so bad, that hopefully boateng will play right back, lahm left back and badstuber + hummels centre backs. | ||
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